From what I’m hearing 70 million exit fee to leave the conference and 18 months notice.
Which conference are you speaking of here?
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From what I’m hearing 70 million exit fee to leave the conference and 18 months notice.
Another St Louis Spirits deal coming for someone?One thing about this that no one's mentioned.....Big 12 retains KU's media rights through '24(?), as is the case with TX and A&M.
I get it. I'm also not opposed to it. Just wondered what the "pod" terminology was about. Thought maybe there might be some added wrinkle.See outlined above.
Look, we know the Big 10 can't match the OU/TX move. They've won the realignment war. You could see this coming 5 years ago.
This is at least some response, adds a damn good bball school, a crap football school that we'll play about every other year, and ends the E/W division imbalance.
It also leaves open the possibility of adding a ND or a Missouri 15 years down the road, or sooner if Missouri gets tired of getting their heads beat in.
It also keeps us from going past 16, or adding Iowa St. or going all the way to the West Coast. I don't want the BT to expand to the West Coast and ruin what's left of college football.
If they had an invite to the B1G, they'd come up with the $70 million in a hurry. The TV money between the leagues is night and day. Without Texas, the B12 is basically a mid-major.
They might have to wait for that money until the rights are done with the current conference.If they had an invite to the B1G, they'd come up with the $70 million in a hurry. The TV money between the leagues is night and day. Without Texas, the B12 is basically a mid-major.
Oh, they will. I don't remember how long it was, but Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland all went through a number of years as sort of second-class citizens, not getting a full share of TV profits. Kansas will have to do the same, certainly as long as they are still earning money for the B12, and then some. But it will still be worth it to them in the long run.They might have to wait for that money until the rights are done with the current conference.
And then we could let the NCAA Selection Committee determine our Championship Game participants and Bowl Choices. LOLI've seen some speculation that KU could come in alone as #15, and BT could go to a pod system of 3 pods with 5 members each.
Something like
--RU/MD/OSU/PSU/MSU
--MICH/IU/PUR/ILL/MN
--KU/NEB/IOWA/NW/WIS
Would have the advantages to IU of adding another bball power (and weak FB), and getting rid of the E/W divisions.
You would play each team in your pod, plus 2 from each of the other pods each year. Could have some games saved such as OSU/MI. Could put IU in the East with a saved Purdue game, switch MSU to the middle. So that would look this way:
--RU/MD/OSU/PSU/IU
--MICH/MSU/ILL/PUR/MN
--KU/NEB/IOWA/NW/WIS
Then wait 15 years and see if ND or MIssouri want to change course.
Mizzou is thrilled to be in the SEC.I've seen some speculation that KU could come in alone as #15, and BT could go to a pod system of 3 pods with 5 members each.
Something like
--RU/MD/OSU/PSU/MSU
--MICH/IU/PUR/ILL/MN
--KU/NEB/IOWA/NW/WIS
Would have the advantages to IU of adding another bball power (and weak FB), and getting rid of the E/W divisions.
You would play each team in your pod, plus 2 from each of the other pods each year. Could have some games saved such as OSU/MI. Could put IU in the East with a saved Purdue game, switch MSU to the middle. So that would look this way:
--RU/MD/OSU/PSU/IU
--MICH/MSU/ILL/PUR/MN
--KU/NEB/IOWA/NW/WIS
Then wait 15 years and see if ND or MIssouri want to change course.
So what do you suggest, Spinoza?Most of you guys think extremely small-time. Sec adds Texas and Oklahoma and you think our response should be to add Kansas and Colorado…. Lol
Saved crossover games each year would be:
--OSU/MI
--IU/PUR
--PSU/MSU
--ILL/NW
--WIS/MN
Nebraska, KU, RU, IOWA & MD would not have a saved crossover game
The teams would play each year:
RU: MD; OSU; PSU; IU + 5 others from the other 2 pods
MD: RU; OSU; PSU; IU + 5 others from the other 2 pods
OSU: RU; MD; PSU; IU; MICH + 4 others from the other 2 pods
IU: RU; MD; OSU; PSU; PUR + 4 others...................
PSU: RU; MD; OSU; IU; MSU + 4 others...............
MICH: MSU; ILL; PUR; MN; OSU + 4 others...........
MSU: MICH; ILL; PUR; MN; PSU + 4 others.........
ILL: MICH; MSU; PUR; MN; NW + 4 others...........
PUR: MICH; MSU; ILL, MN; IU + 4 others............
MN: MICH; MSU; ILL; PUR; WIS + 4 others.........
KU: NEB; Iowa; NW; RU + 5 others ..............
NEB: KU; IOWA: WIS: ILL + 5 others............
IOWA: KU; NEB; NW; WIS + 5 others........
NW: KU; NEB; IOWA; WIS; ILL +4 others....
WIS: KU; NEB; IOWA; NW; MN + 4 others.......
Looking it over, I'd probably add IOWA/MN as another crossover game....That would only leave MN with 3 other crossovers each year but they'd play MI, WIS & IOWA each year, which are the teams they want to play. They would have 3 games each year of 7 other
SEC has hurdles to get those teams. The other teams vote. They only need 4 no votes. They already have 2. What makes anyone think this is a slam dunk?Most of you guys think extremely small-time. Sec adds Texas and Oklahoma and you think our response should be to add Kansas and Colorado…. Lol
Which schools are voting “no?”SEC has hurdles to get those teams. The other teams vote. They only need 4 no votes. They already have 2. What makes anyone think this is a slam dunk?
I heard Florida and Missouri will too. Supposedly it’s far from a done deal. Schools aren’t ready to give up their share of the money.Which schools are voting “no?”
A&M is the most likely, but nearly everyone over at TexAgs has given up hope this is going to be derailed (for what a message board’s opinion is worth).
Also, I highly recommend that forum. Beside itself with rage and vomiting.
SEC is in power grab mode. I’m not sure what sticks. Pretty sure those are long shots.“Rubbing the rock.”Clemson football rumors: SEC in ‘serious contact’ with Tigers
According to the latest report, the league that Clemson football fans have had the most disdain for the last decade has had 'serious contact.'rubbingtherock.com
The Big Ten blew it with its' last expansion moves. Rutgers and Maryland were brought in to get exposure in the big city Eastern Markets. The problem is that those are professional team markets with limited College interest. In this day and age, Rutgers may be lucky to get a reporter from a New York paper to cover their game, and if they do, the story will be buried on page 12.I'd rather have West Virginia than Kansas. Football is driving this boat...
At the time, media money was a big deal. Maryland was a no brainer. Pretty sure Missouri wasn’t an option. Pitt might’ve been. The B1G also had some academic criteria too. Not sure how popular Missouri is in St. Louis. I know lots of Oklahoma fans in those areas. It’s going to get crazy sounds like.The Big Ten blew it with its' last expansion moves. Rutgers and Maryland were brought in to get exposure in the big city Eastern Markets. The problem is that those are professional team markets with limited College interest. In this day and age, Rutgers may be lucky to get a reporter from a New York paper to cover their game, and if they do, the story will be buried on page 12.
The Big 10 should have brought in West Virginia, Pitt, Mizzou or Iowa State. West Virginia and Pitt gives you that natural geographic bridge between Columbus and State College. The other 2 could help you with geographic balance to the West, and Mizzou would bring the St. Louis Market into play. While that isn't New York or DC, it is a large city without an NFL or NBA team. In addition you would have natural geographic rivalries with Illinois and Iowa.
It’s always a good time over thereWhich schools are voting “no?”
A&M is the most likely, but nearly everyone over at TexAgs has given up hope this is going to be derailed (for what a message board’s opinion is worth).
Also, I highly recommend that forum. Beside itself with rage and vomiting.
So, if this is to be believed, the B1G is willing to lower academic standards?
I didn't know that they'd already done it for Nebraska. That puts it in a different lightI think Nebraska has reset the standard to a purely athletic one, or should I say revenue flow
Makes me no longer argue that point. In that case go get Louisville.🤣I didn't know that they'd already done it for Nebraska. That puts it in a different light
If that happens, the B1G should get kentucky so Cal has to come back to the hall and the bourbon barrel is back in play. VBGLatest conference realignment rumor states SEC in ‘serious contact’ with UM, OSU
Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn't include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.sports.yahoo.com
Short article about the above linked twat.
SEC is in power grab mode. I’m not sure what sticks. Pretty sure those are long shots.
Interesting thoughts. Thanks.I hadn't thought so until now, but it looks like we are ultimately headed for a 24 (32?) team mega-conference. Not right now, but sometime in the next 10-20 years.
Don't think so? If $$ and relative financial advantage are the only perimeters, and huge penalty provisions are basically meaningless given the $$ involved, ask yourself why TX, Oklahoma, A&M, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida. LSU, and Tennessee will long put up with sharing their $$ with Vandy, 'Ole Miss, Miss. St., UK, Missouri, South Carolina, and Arkansas.....when they could have USC, Michigan, OSU, PSU, Clemson, Florida St, ND instead?
So that's TX; OK; A&M; Bama; Auburn; Georgia; Florida, LSU, Tenn, OSU, Michigan, PSU, Clemson, FSU, USC, ND That's 16. I think they'll limit it to 24 because you get into diminishing returns and having to share the loot. So the final 8 would come from the group of Arkansas, S. Carolina, UK, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin, MSU, N. Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech, Oregon, Washington, Arizona St., UCLA, OK State. How to choose from these 15 candidates? Maybe have a requirement of a $100M entrance fee for the league....those not willing to pay would be left out.
Out of Luck: Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss St, IU, Purdue, Illinois, NW, Maryland, Rutgers, Minnesota, Iowa, Washington St., Oregon St., Stanford, Utah, Cal, Virginia, Wake, Duke, Syracuse, UL, GT, Pitt, BC, NC State, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, TCU, Tex Tech, Iowa St; W. Virginia, Colorado.
Rules of the club:
1. Basketball matters, but not all that much. Football has to be #1, or you have to at least fill the stadium (see UK v. N. Carolina, IU, Kansas, Duke, Syracuse)
2. Small private schools, other than the ND exemption, need not apply--Vandy, Stanford, Wake, Duke, Baylor, TCU. Also, academics don't matter much.
3. If you can't get 70000 in the stands consistently you're out of luck, unless you're in a big TV market. That probably gets NC in. Miami's probably out under this rule + the small private school rule.
4. Even if can get 70000, you're still in danger if you're not a traditional power and are in a small population state. W. Virginia, OK State, Iowa, UK.. Even Nebraska, a traditional power, might have to hump someone to get in.
5. Regionalism is pretty much out, although the league will be SEC-centric.
6. Being in the club will be more important than actually winning anything--TX, OK, USC, UCLA are going to be the best examples----2 have left their traditional conference although they completely dominated it. USC & UCLA will be next (possibly to the BT??). The same logic will apply to OSU, Michigan & PSU.
Caveat to all this---If the BT breaks up the PAC 12 and ends up taking USC, UCLA, Washington & Oregon the SEC and the BT would be the only two conferences that would count, and the SEC would steal FSU & Clemson and rest. ND would remain independent.