Kansas to Big 10? (link)
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One thing about this that no one's mentioned.....Big 12 retains KU's media rights through '24(?), as is the case with TX and A&M.
I get it. I'm also not opposed to it. Just wondered what the "pod" terminology was about. Thought maybe there might be some added wrinkle.
Make sure they are in the B1G West in football as they would add strength their 😜
If they had an invite to the B1G, they'd come up with the $70 million in a hurry. The TV money between the leagues is night and day. Without Texas, the B12 is basically a mid-major.
They might have to wait for that money until the rights are done with the current conference.
Oh, they will. I don't remember how long it was, but Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland all went through a number of years as sort of second-class citizens, not getting a full share of TV profits. Kansas will have to do the same, certainly as long as they are still earning money for the B12, and then some. But it will still be worth it to them in the long run.
And then we could let the NCAA Selection Committee determine our Championship Game participants and Bowl Choices. LOL
How about at the end of the regular season, the winners of each division are ranked by 1) record, 2) H2H, 3) common opponents, and then #2 hosts #3 in a semi-final, the winner of which travels to Indy to face #1 in the title game. The semi-final game will be broadcast exclusively on BTN, of course.
It would not be within current NCAA rules, of course, but at this point, they're not going to have the juice to stop it.
It would not be within current NCAA rules, of course, but at this point, they're not going to have the juice to stop it.
The larger these Conferences become and get divided into divisions the further away you get from true rivalries and interest. If you play a team once every 4 years and at home once every 7 -8 years, how can the average fan maintain an interest.
One problem with OU and Texas is that despite the fact they are in the Big 12 in name, they are used to dictating to others as the biggest sharks in the pool. The SEC isn't going to allow them to have their own TV Deals without sharing Revenue with the Conference and they won't be allowed to control scheduling. Bottom line is at this point they need the SEC more than the SEc needs them.
One problem with OU and Texas is that despite the fact they are in the Big 12 in name, they are used to dictating to others as the biggest sharks in the pool. The SEC isn't going to allow them to have their own TV Deals without sharing Revenue with the Conference and they won't be allowed to control scheduling. Bottom line is at this point they need the SEC more than the SEc needs them.
Mizzou is thrilled to be in the SEC.
Not a chance that Mizzou would leave the SEC.
Most of you guys think extremely small-time. Sec adds Texas and Oklahoma and you think our response should be to add Kansas and Colorado…. Lol
SEC has hurdles to get those teams. The other teams vote. They only need 4 no votes. They already have 2. What makes anyone think this is a slam dunk?
I'd rather have West Virginia than Kansas. Football is driving this boat...
SEC Expansion: Texas A&M, Missouri "no" votes on OU, Texas
Blockbuster news came down on Wednesday that the Big 12 Conference’s future could be up in the air after a report from the Houston Chronicle that Oklahoma and Texas could be on the verge of going to the SEC. But one thing to note is that the SEC needs 10 of 14 teams to vote […]
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Which schools are voting “no?”
A&M is the most likely, but nearly everyone over at TexAgs has given up hope this is going to be derailed (for what a message board’s opinion is worth).
Also, I highly recommend that forum. Beside itself with rage and vomiting.
I heard Florida and Missouri will too. Supposedly it’s far from a done deal. Schools aren’t ready to give up their share of the money.
Clemson football rumors: SEC in ‘serious contact’ with Tigers
According to the latest report, the league that Clemson football fans have had the most disdain for the last decade has had 'serious contact.'
SEC is in power grab mode. I’m not sure what sticks. Pretty sure those are long shots.“Rubbing the rock.”Clemson football rumors: SEC in ‘serious contact’ with Tigers
According to the latest report, the league that Clemson football fans have had the most disdain for the last decade has had 'serious contact.'rubbingtherock.com
The Big Ten blew it with its' last expansion moves. Rutgers and Maryland were brought in to get exposure in the big city Eastern Markets. The problem is that those are professional team markets with limited College interest. In this day and age, Rutgers may be lucky to get a reporter from a New York paper to cover their game, and if they do, the story will be buried on page 12.
The Big 10 should have brought in West Virginia, Pitt, Mizzou or Iowa State. West Virginia and Pitt gives you that natural geographic bridge between Columbus and State College. The other 2 could help you with geographic balance to the West, and Mizzou would bring the St. Louis Market into play. While that isn't New York or DC, it is a large city without an NFL or NBA team. In addition you would have natural geographic rivalries with Illinois and Iowa.
At the time, media money was a big deal. Maryland was a no brainer. Pretty sure Missouri wasn’t an option. Pitt might’ve been. The B1G also had some academic criteria too. Not sure how popular Missouri is in St. Louis. I know lots of Oklahoma fans in those areas. It’s going to get crazy sounds like.
So, if this is to be believed, the B1G is willing to lower academic standards?
The rivals take on it https://oklahomastate.rivals.com/news/realignment-oklahoma-state-has-options
I’d be happy if they kicked out Nebraska Penn State Maryland and Rutgers.
Here's the oft spoke of AAU roster:
www.aau.edu
As previously noted, Nebraska is nowhere to be found on it... Evidently the Big Ten Presidents bought the argument that Nebraska actually believes the big N in the middle of their football field stands for Knowledge 😂🙄🙈 and "hoped" they could someday, somehow, elevate the Neanderthals...; an educational rapid evolution of sorts 😉..., or, and this is just a wild guess, they ignored their "standards" and went for what appeared at the time to be a Big time revenue generator $$$$$ (in their defense who knew they'd become an overrated joke)...
//How was That for a run-on sentence? My third grade English teacher may make an effort to come back and haunt me after that. 😉//
I think Nebraska has reset the standard to a purely athletic one, or should I say revenue flow $$$$$$$$$$$ one....
Our Members | Association of American Universities (AAU)
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www.aau.edu
As previously noted, Nebraska is nowhere to be found on it... Evidently the Big Ten Presidents bought the argument that Nebraska actually believes the big N in the middle of their football field stands for Knowledge 😂🙄🙈 and "hoped" they could someday, somehow, elevate the Neanderthals...; an educational rapid evolution of sorts 😉..., or, and this is just a wild guess, they ignored their "standards" and went for what appeared at the time to be a Big time revenue generator $$$$$ (in their defense who knew they'd become an overrated joke)...
//How was That for a run-on sentence? My third grade English teacher may make an effort to come back and haunt me after that. 😉//
I think Nebraska has reset the standard to a purely athletic one, or should I say revenue flow $$$$$$$$$$$ one....
I didn't know that they'd already done it for Nebraska. That puts it in a different light
What I have read is that NU was, indeed, an AAU school when they were admitted into the Big Ten, but lost the status soon thereafter. It had something to do with how agricultural research was accounted for by the association and/or to do with the location of their medical school, which is located in Omaha.
Latest conference realignment rumor states SEC in ‘serious contact’ with UM, OSU
Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn't include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.
sports.yahoo.com
Short article about the above linked twat.
If that happens, the B1G should get kentucky so Cal has to come back to the hall and the bourbon barrel is back in play. VBG
Latest conference realignment rumor states SEC in ‘serious contact’ with UM, OSU
Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn't include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.
Short article about the above linked twat.
I hadn't thought so until now, but it looks like we are ultimately headed for a 24 (32?) team mega-conference. Not right now, but sometime in the next 10-20 years.
Don't think so? If $$ and relative financial advantage are the only perimeters, and huge penalty provisions are basically meaningless given the $$ involved, ask yourself why TX, Oklahoma, A&M, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida. LSU, and Tennessee will long put up with sharing their $$ with Vandy, 'Ole Miss, Miss. St., UK, Missouri, South Carolina, and Arkansas.....when they could have USC, Michigan, OSU, PSU, Clemson, Florida St, ND instead?
So that's TX; OK; A&M; Bama; Auburn; Georgia; Florida, LSU, Tenn, OSU, Michigan, PSU, Clemson, FSU, USC, ND That's 16. I think they'll limit it to 24 because you get into diminishing returns and having to share the loot. So the final 8 would come from the group of Arkansas, S. Carolina, UK, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin, MSU, N. Carolina, Miami, Virginia Tech, Oregon, Washington, Arizona St., UCLA, OK State. How to choose from these 15 candidates? Maybe have a requirement of a $100M entrance fee for the league....those not willing to pay would be left out.
Out of Luck: Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss St, IU, Purdue, Illinois, NW, Maryland, Rutgers, Minnesota, Iowa, Washington St., Oregon St., Stanford, Utah, Cal, Virginia, Wake, Duke, Syracuse, UL, GT, Pitt, BC, NC State, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, TCU, Tex Tech, Iowa St; W. Virginia, Colorado.
Rules of the club:
1. Basketball matters, but not all that much. Football has to be #1, or you have to at least fill the stadium (see UK v. N. Carolina, IU, Kansas, Duke, Syracuse)
2. Small private schools, other than the ND exemption, need not apply--Vandy, Stanford, Wake, Duke, Baylor, TCU. Also, academics don't matter much.
3. If you can't get 70000 in the stands consistently you're out of luck, unless you're in a big TV market. That probably gets NC in. Miami's probably out under this rule + the small private school rule.
4. Even if can get 70000, you're still in danger if you're not a traditional power and are in a small population state. W. Virginia, OK State, Iowa, UK.. Even Nebraska, a traditional power, might have to hump someone to get in.
5. Regionalism is pretty much out, although the league will be SEC-centric.
6. Being in the club will be more important than actually winning anything--TX, OK, USC, UCLA are going to be the best examples----2 have left their traditional conference although they completely dominated it. USC & UCLA will be next (possibly to the BT??). The same logic will apply to OSU, Michigan & PSU.
Caveat to all this---If the BT breaks up the PAC 12 and ends up taking USC, UCLA, Washington & Oregon the SEC and the BT would be the only two conferences that would count, and the SEC would steal FSU & Clemson and rest. ND would remain independent.
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This is one of the reasons being a basketball school really sucks eggs. You just do not have much leverage. Look at Duke, they have ZERO leverage if the ACC falls apart. They'll end up in the poor house...
I've been ahead of this curve for decades. I knew being a bball school sucked and it does. 🙃
I've been ahead of this curve for decades. I knew being a bball school sucked and it does. 🙃
Interesting thoughts. Thanks.
The number of schools in the “Out of Luck” group that are either strongly basketball-centered or lean toward basketball is striking, as is the drop off in prominence between the premier 16/24 and the crowd in which IU would find itself. Also notable is how few schools west of the Texas/Mississippi River line are to be found.
I don’t know what I would put past the SEC at this point …
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