And God forbid that they are asked to get an ID for this healthcare. (Yes I know this is on a tangent, but...)
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It's kind of amusing to me that laws are written by lawyers, so that only lawyers (or those who study the law) understand them, and then those lawyers claim they're there to protect you (no offense, Brad).
I wouldn't include George Will with Sowell and VDH.
He's too much a part of the DC establishment.
Right. We should dump them in the desert and let them fend for themselves.
I've never understood why ER is so expensive compared to a regular doctors office or surgeon? Because they can?
It definitely hasn't been that way. In the 50s, my uncle made house calls..... and people paid him in cash or whatever they could barter.
I've seen a bill from the hospital for my sister's birth and it was a few hundred dollars (and yes, that was in 50s dollars, but even with inflation it was still cheap).
Ah, from those lawyers who are protecting us......
You're just saying that because he loathes Trump.
No, I'm saying that because he's part of the DC establishment. Uh, a columnist for WaPo......
The other 2 aren't. He doesn't have near their intellect.
George is, or was, a regular contributor for ABC - you know, the ones who moderated the last Presidential debate.
PS I always thought Will made good arguments for Conservatism. But before Trump came along, I started to question his - and others - enslavement to ideology.
Ideology is fine when it comes to developing policy in a vacuum. But the world doesn't operate in a vacuum and practicality has to be considered.
Will is one of those guys who lives in a DC bubble and is satisfied being the 'House Conservative', without making any big waves.
We already do. They're shielded from liability and all the costs associated with that.
George Will is lightweight compared to Thomas Sowell.
But he has a nice bow tie and he is obsessed with baseball
Great, now let's carry it through to the individual who needs one.
You don't think those savings are passed on to the customer? Say it ain't so.
Reliable, inexpensive, handguns are more available now than ever.
I’ve always thought it was hard to imagine a scenario where the manufacturer of a gun would genuinely have any liability when one of their products is used in the commission of a crime….unless it involves some kind of malfunction, unlawful function, etc.
If some lunatic drives his Chevy into a crowd of people, who in their right mind would think GM liable for it?
True re defects or designs but liability is now attaching as a result of their marketing practices. There’s some similarities to tobacco lit
So they’re deliberately marketing their products as implements of criminality?
Hmm, OK. If that’s truly the case, I could see their liability. But I’d have to see exactly what that looks like and how a straight line could be drawn from this to the use of their product in the commission of some criminal act - and, I have to say that I expect to have to do a lot of squinting. ☺️
Tobacco was the blueprint in that part of their liability was predicated on marketing practices that targeted kids. With guns lawyers are circumventing the immunity stat by using consumer laws that prohibit irresponsible marketing whether that be kids or I guess shit like you too can be a one man militia!!
You know what’s funny. My minion loves bass pro shop. He likes to climb around the boats. The aquarium and sit on atvs etc. last time we were there they had toy assault riflesAnd you wonder why I hold the grifters of Lawsuit, Inc. in such low esteem.
Definitely sounds like a place with multiple opportunities. What the hell are you doing wasting your time, energy and talents on medical malpractice? Johnny Morris is loaded...and, from what I can tell, basically asking for somebody to take his dough.
It’s all about the hazards and danger of the product compared with its social utility. Three wheeled ATV’s bit the dust because they were dangerous and they had nearly 0 social utility.
I’m all for repealing the federal immunity law because I think that would be the end of semi-auto long guns shooting high- velocity and highly destructive ammo. How would you like to be a manufacturer defending the utility of such a weapon in the hands of the general public? Wanna have fun murdering a metal target? Shoot a semi auto .22. Otherwise use a lever or bolt action weapon.
Another benefit of repealing immunity is the pressure put on the retail seller to know your customer. A punk kid with jumpy demeanor will have a harder time buying a gun or ammo.
Finally, for all the constitutional fundamentalists, I think most immunity laws violate the 7th Amendment, but I know the courts have ruled otherwise.
If it’s a bad idea, these lawyers will suffer the consequences. (I share your skepticism about these suits).And you wonder why I hold the grifters of Lawsuit, Inc. in such low esteem.
Market forces work in the business of law, too.
The social utility is killing an attacker. How does the semi-auto long gun fail in that regard?
The statistics are not on the side of that. Moreover there are much safer and better alternatives as far as home defense is concerned.
Not nearly as well as they do in most of our endeavors, from my perspective. That's why I favor loser pays laws -- increase the disincentives for filing garbage lawsuits, decrease the incentives to settle them out of convenience.
But it brings up a question. Is it as common for these folks to go broke when their "business" fails as it is for people who invest their savings to start actual businesses?
*sigh*
A law firm is an “actual business.” And it is a business without the need for scare quotes. Are you able to discuss lawyers without letting your obvious disdain peek through?
Loser pay laws certainly would fix the problem you are concerned with. And as a result, a lot of poor and middle class people would never have access to justice.
Yes, plaintiffs firms go under. Yes lawyers declare bankruptcy. No, not all lawyers are rich.
I used every last dime I had to go into being a partner/owner of my law firm. Delayed buying a house. For the first couple of years, racked up a ton of debt. And I didn’t get a dime from family. I’ve taken just as much risk as any normal “business.” Once again, you’re showing your ignorance of things related to the field of law.
Loser pay laws are a terrible idea. Let’s say you are 50% disabled, and can’t do your normal job, because of a medical mistake. You go to your lawyer and he says the case is 50/50, depending on which expert the jury likes. If you lose, your retirement savings, your college fund, and your home equity will be wiped out. What do you do? The very wealthy, and the very poor will say sue. The middle class is screwed.
We already have loser pay rules for frivolous litigation.
Couple hundred bucks.
You can buy a hi point pistol in 9mm for under $200
Plus, we are personally liable for the line of credit used to meet payroll in the slow months or if we don’t win an expensive case.
Semi auto rifles have been killing deer for nearly a century. Isn't that common usage? Hell, my deer rifle is now an AR and they're quickly becoming the platform of choice among younger hunters.
No that shit is too awful. My partners and I started and invest in businesses. We have six right now all enjoying varying degrees of failure. With law comes an arrogance that you can do anything. We’ve been humbled
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