No hate. As I said, call it as I see it. You bring nothing to this board
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No hate. As I said, call it as I see it. You bring nothing to this board
Varying viewpoints is a good thing otherwise you and your fellow apologists would have nothing to discuss
I’d like to hear your reasoning as to why this is a fact, as you seem to have stated that way. Show your work, too!
I was hoping you would have more rules on how to be a fan. It always s
I said it "feels like" dipshit..does that sound like i'm stating a fact?
Yes, a lot of time, as has been pointed out over and over, you do. Many good coaches have had struggles their first few years.
Is Miller accountable for their record? Yes, he is. Can he keep having 0.500 seasons? No, he cannot.
But do you pressure a coach for results in year two? No, you do not.
If I was your dad I would’ve sent you to your room without supper. Naaahhh I would give you the belt!
3.5 million per , yes a coach should feel pressure.
It’s just reality. Once the majority of the fan base turns on you, it’s nearly impossible to win them back.
Total lie; Archie WAS NOT required to honor letter of intents of Smith, Durham, and
i don’t think fan base has turned on Archie (me included) however we are not gonna sit back and have sunshine blown up our arses saying keep waiting like we did for Crean.
Who is IU going to get? They are not willing to spend the money needed for a proven coach, we all know that. So, who would they go after?
Lmao, and IU fans make fun of Iowa. 7 out of 11. The AD should be gone immediately.
Either pay for the big name or get another young coach. Just don’t stick with what we know won’t work.
He’s not a fan. That much is obvious.Yep, next year is going to be awful for IU. Everybody knows that what we are now is what we will be or worse next year, and that what our competition is now will be the same or better next year as well. Because past and present performance is ALWAYS indicative of future results, everyone knows this. There are no variables. Everything and everyone is a known quantity, based solely on what they were and what they are.
It's the bedrock of how things work in sports, finance and life. Thank you for illustrating that and sharing this level of wisdom with the unwashed masses of IU fandom.
You clearly haven't watched much over the last 20 years.
What do you expect when you have Crocodile Dundee and a worthless bureaucrat from the NCAA selecting head coaches. I could understand maybe bringing Crocodile as a pre game motivational speaker-but letting him select head coaches. No effin way.
Okay. Davis had directionless games that i couldnt stand to watch as did Crean but never saw just the tmabsute lack of effort that i saw in some games this year. You are right probably closer than i suggested but these games are fresh in my mind.
You made the claim. You are supposed to prove yourself correct, otherwise you're just pulling it out your rear - which is exactly what you're doing.
Yep, you just don't come back from a disappointing second season as a head coach. Everybody knows that if your team fails to live up to expectations in your second season as head coach, then you are bound to be fired unceremoniously. It's common practice and knowledge.
Losing Brooks as an in-stater was a big nail in the coffin. You don’t look good when you say your recruiting strategy is “inside out” and cannot keep guys like that inside.
The nails in the coffin were Moore, Smith and Durham all getting 4 year scholarships. This will seal Archie’s fate you can’t have an entire shitty recruiting class cause u can’t purge players at IU!
Sorry, but Romeo never lived up to the hype. Everyone figured out (except Buckyville, thank goodness) that he can only go to his right.
I don’t have to prove it. You’re stating I’m incorrect. Prove that I am or please leave it up to the adults from now on.
You include yourself in the "adult" group? Now that is very, very funny! Here's the way it really works in adult-land - you make a claim that you could "name 300 who didn’t [succeed at the Power Five conference level.] The odds are about 1% from this point forward." So name those 300 and then show the math for your odds of 1%. If you can't do that, you're the pathetic poster you appear to be - over and over and over again. I do mean PATHETIC.
They lost 9 in a row in his first season at UVA. Stop accusing others of cherry-picking facts.
I was talking about his 2nd year nobody in their right mind would make any criticism of a coaches 1st year
This is how I can say this, now pay close attention; I compared the situations and rosters for both coaches and Mack inherited a team that was left over by a hall of fame coach and recruiter. Archie inherited a roster full of players left to him by an inferior, orange man. I do not feel like I am full of excuses, but you are certainly full of shit!
Mack’s team is not talented don’t know where u get that . Jordan is a great offensive shooter but that’s about it. With the ease of grad transfers there’s no excuse for there to be rebuilding in consecutive seasons. That’s poor roster management
Man, so what were we pre season by outsiders, not us fans? Top 30 to 40 predicted maybe? I know Torvik got all kinds of grief from IU fans because he had us sixth or seventh in the conference.
Remember how pissy we got when we weren't in the pre season top 25's?
What did we finish? KenPom has us 42nd.
So predicted in the 30-40 national range and finished 42nd.
Disappointing absolutely.
A national travesty....GTFOOH.
Remember when Purdue lost the national player of the year three years ago and we laughed at them and told them they were going to suck rocks without him? No the foundation of that team stayed and was actually better.
We played two sophomores and two freshmen heavy heavy minutes and barely missed the tournament.
UCLA played a lot of freshmen and sophomores and didn't even make the NIT, and yet a lot of the drama queens are being opportunistic to prop up Alford.
Yawn
Remember how pissy we got when we weren't in the pre season top 25's?
What did we finish? KenPom has us 42nd.
So predicted in the 30-40 national range and finished 42nd.
Disappointing absolutely.
A national travesty....GTFOOH.
Remember when Purdue lost the national player of the year three years ago and we laughed at them and told them they were going to suck rocks without him? No the foundation of that team stayed and was actually better.
We played two sophomores and two freshmen heavy heavy minutes and barely missed the tournament.
UCLA played a lot of freshmen and sophomores and didn't even make the NIT, and yet a lot of the drama queens are being opportunistic to prop up Alford.
Yawn
no, actually you can't.
seriously, look up half the coaches in this year's tourney. starts just like our guy.
but no -- you prefer to be dumb.
Coach K etc are the exceptions! For every Coach K, Bennett or Barnes, who had bad starts for two seasons or more but turned out to be great later, there are definitely more Billy Gillespie, matt Doherty, Tommy Amaker.... You don't hear from them anymore because many of them are already out of coaching. The numbers won't be on your favor.
Even with my pretty basic system, I had IU #40 if Davis couldn't give IU top 5 minutes. I did have IU #18 on roster alone, without any injury consideration, which fueled some optimism. I was pretty sure that Davis wouldn't be able to do that at least until late in the season, but that #18 still looked pretty good.
Factor in a super tough Big 10 and this years results might not be as awful as it seems. The problem is that I thought Archie would be a coach who would actually be able to outperform basic expectation levels and hopefully by a lot. Also, you have a team that went 5-5 vs Kenpom Top 30 teams. That rarely (if ever) is the mark of an NIT team; I think Crean might have come close once... red flag.
Strangely, I'm still more optimistic than I probably should be, but I need to see something next year to remain optimistic. I don't just mean getting into the NCAA Tourney either. IU will have the right kind of experience level to have a really good regular season next year. That would be my expectation of a very good coach.
One thing about Alford. Steve doesn't get the benefit of the same excuses that are passed off as valid ones for almost every other coach. That said, I thought he needed to be fired and said so here after the loss to Cincy. I've never seen a team totally quit on a coach so early in a season. I wanted him fired for his own sake.
