Hard to be curious of what the reasons are for butchering Jews and then parading their naked bodies in the streets. The reasons are quite simple and unacceptable.
Israel under attack from Hamas
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When will I see all the Israeli flags on Twitter and Facebook?
The Germans had reasons in WW2, so did the Japanese. Thankfully nobody at that time gave a rat's ass when it was time to deal with them.
But @TheOriginalHappyGoat wants to have a cold liberal academic conversation.
It’s not any more than you just described. Takes one cold SOB that wants us to understand why these terrorists want to butcher Jews and wipe them off the face of the earth. We don’t need to understand their ass hurt feelings.
We need to support Israel as they deal with these terrorists.
Unfortunately we have folks that want to negotiate with these terrorists. Just like Biden sending Iran $6 billion. Anyone think the Mullahs aren’t still shouting “death to America?”
I think Western liberals are reflexive to empathize with "the oppressed" (as they have labeled them). I don't think Goat supports what they did but thinks they have a reason to be mad. As do the Israelis. Frankly, I don't care. The people misnamed the Palestinians have been outright antagonists to the US or supporters of our antagonists my whole life. They are an enemy. A brutal, backwards enemy. They should be defeated.
Does it take a cold SOB to say, "Damn, a lot of people are dying, I need to run as fast as possible to my computer and blame Biden"?
Where did I blame Biden? He needs to just give Israel what they need to deal with these butchers with no strings attached. Just like he’s doing in Ukraine.
Where supposed to discuss and understand the animals’ feelings.
I am not saying who did, go back and look at the number of tweets linked blaming Biden before the blood stopped flowing.
I get what you are saying but pointing out that Blinken and Biden have been geopolitical catastrophes is not wrong.
It’s not Biden’s fault.
So far, he’s said the right things regarding Israel. I need to qualify that. I haven’t watched any morning news/talk shows.
Edit: don’t forget the first tweet out of the WH telling Israel not to retaliate.
He isn't the direct cause but he (and many others) helped fund it.
Some of us have long been critical of Obama and Biden’s enablement of Iran.
At the moment we can't know for 100% certain what all is involved. So blame might be between .01% and 99.9%. That isn't very helpful.
Suppose for fun planning for this began when Jerusalem was made capital, would that add blame to others?
There is time to debate Biden's role, and policy may well carry blame. I am not arguing against that idea. That debate isn't under the rocket's red glare.
And them feel even more empowered to perform it. None of my thoughts have been that he directly funded it. That’s just how some spin discussions, just like Hamas playing the victim card using civilians as shields.
Progress on the Administration's talks between Saudi and Israel was likely the real motivation.
Iran’s support for Hamas fans suspicion it’s wrecking Israel-Saudi deal
Tehran’s remarks will feed speculation Iran is whipping up conflict to prevent a US-brokered normalization of Saudi-Israeli ties.
www.politico.eu
Part of it. And that doesn't detract from the fact that Biden released money to the Palestinians (and Iran) that his own administration told him would likely, in some part, be used exactly like it was yesterday.Progress on the Administration's talks between Saudi and Israel was likely the real motivation.
Iran’s support for Hamas fans suspicion it’s wrecking Israel-Saudi deal
Tehran’s remarks will feed speculation Iran is whipping up conflict to prevent a US-brokered normalization of Saudi-Israeli ties.
Criticism of the people in charge is completely fair game. Particularly in an election season (as we are approaching a chance to change it). The IDF was also saying it appeared that some of the weaponry they were coming across was likely leftover equipment when Biden bugged out of Afghanistan with no plan. If true, that is further evidence that this administration doesn't have it on foreign policy. Particularly in that region. That is completely germane to this topic.
If only we had been warned.
In 2014, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates infamous said this about Joe Biden-- "I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."
Pentagon claims that equipment was what was given to our Afghan allies over the years while we were there, then abandoned by them and captured by the Taliban. Still not good, but not all on Biden's watch.
Were there enough Republicans under 30 to get a significant sample?
More available than young liberals with a brain apparently.
Our failed education system says yes. You might want to get out more. The conversations I have “in the south” would make you chuckle.
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Saw some dumb bitches standing on the median this morning waving Palestinian flags as Chicago Marathon runners went by in droves. Blood boiling.
It’s even worse in places like London or Paris.
Wonder how they would feel it was their dead naked sister or mother being dragged through the streets? I am not sure the idiots would care.
You and stoll and most others in this thread have lost the ability to examine issues beyond taking sides. It's so bad that you assume my desire to examine it more deeply is a sign I support the wrong side. The truth is, I care about the details because we (America) are in this, and the details may control how many Americans live or die in the future.
All you guys can think of is "wipe them out" like it's a ****ing video game.
F*ck you, too. You and crazy are such assholes that you can't even read what I actually wrote. Instead you read what you imagine a caricature of me in fantasy right wing land would have said.
“Wipe them out” is a pretty rational response. Most of our Allies in the international community, including Israel, supported our “wipe them out” stance following 9/11.
Why should we not support Israel accordingly? Motivations are unimportant at this point.
Now if we can just channel some of this anger and energy towards Hamas, I think this thread would go better.
I've been conflicted over the years of what the right position is but I'm now convinced more than ever that there is only one way this will ever end. Might as well get it over with.
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