Then just let them have the West Bank and Gaza. Israel could do that unilaterally if it wanted to. Would it solve all their cultural problems? No. But at least they could stop being refugees and start being citizens of a state.
Did you miss the news on 10/7?
Was that supposed to make sense? They DID have the West Bank and Gaza. Israel has negotiated for that. Palestinians don't want those as their country. They want "from the river to the sea".
Like I said, it might not be the answer. I'm just saying, Israel creates refugees, and chiding other Arab states for not taking those refugees sounds ridiculous.
Refugees are always 'created' during war.
Israel doesn't have to fight a war. Others have pointed out several times they could decide to go after Hamas with assassins instead of bombs.
And the same people bitching now would be bitching then.
Maybe. But what's that got to do with my point? Ask I'm saying is it's a choice being made, and that choice creates refugees.
Ah, if you mean Egypt and Jordan should take more Palestinians and the UK and US should take fewer, I can get behind that line of argument. I was critical of using the argument as a way of shifting blame for the Palestinians' position to Arab states, which I think is misguided. But simply pointing out the West has done enough heavy lifting already, that's spot on.
Israel has negotiated to have a Palestinian state, even proposing a freeway from the West Bank to Gaza for transport between the 2 areas. Palestinians don't want that - they want the area "from the river to the sea".
Of course they can. They've already shown they aren't averse to extrajudicial killings.
I know this is pedantic, but you're not explaining why they can't decide to choose a different tactic. You're explaining why you think they shouldn't because it wouldn't work. But pedantic as that is, the difference is important as it relates to the very narrow point I was trying to make when I jumped in on this.
Are you running for mayor of Fort Wayne? Your conversation here reminds me of an ex mayor from the fort.
the Jordanians have a sovereign state, something the Palestinians do not have. now you are seeing how colonialism and terrorism are intertwined. they feed off each other. Hamas and the hardest right-wingers in Israel are happy for never ending wars that don't have attainable objectives. hell, we dabble in that shit over here. we thought we could build the United States of Afghanistan and Iraq. Minus all the dead people, pretty hilarious. 🤮
I don't have the expertise to know if you're right. But even if you are, it's still a choice you make.
Are you saying you think what the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan were attempts to colonize them?
Yeah, the choice is to continue to have your women and children raped and killed or stop it.
Seriously, we're going to have to go in and blow up the Houthis. I just hope we squeeze something out of the Saudis in return for it.
