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Israel under attack from Hamas



I’ll tell you what. I don’t like Anthony Blinken, never have. I think a lot of his actions may have precipitated this conflict.

However, he seems to have been a steady hand on the wheel in the early days of this conflict. Seeing that video last week of Israeli’s hugging him exclaiming “We thought we were alone!”, makes you proud to be an American.

Time will tell, I think it’s in the administration nature to undercut Israel’s effort to completely eradicate Hamas and HZ. But until now he’s been pretty competent. And competence is in short supply in this administration.
 
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Competence? You shoulda seen the last guy who asked if we could drop a nuclear bomb into a hurricane to break it up or inject someone with a disinfectant to kill the coronavirus.

That guy was a hoot! 😂
I know you don’t have much creativity and any criticism of Biden reflexively triggers a Trump insult in the same vein in your horribly addled brain.

But understand this. Trump’s ME policy was coherent, practical and largely deterred conflict. The same can’t be said of this administration.

So at least on this subject, you sniping at Trump is f*cking stupid and you should stop.

I have every belief Pompeo would be just as if it more effective in these circumstances. He was an excellent Secretary of State.
 
why did it take so long?
yeah and cost so much. this israeli conflict is just going to drag on. like the ukraine deal. better to try and turn this into a relationship thread. bring in danc and ohio guy. maybe booger baller
 
yeah and cost so much. this israeli conflict is just going to drag on. like the ukraine deal. better to try and turn this into a relationship thread. bring in danc and ohio guy. maybe booger baller
You know where Brad and I stand.

Look, the best thing about cougs is they aren't clingy. Try it out. You'll see.
 
With 20K Navy personnel offshore , 2K more adds to the personnel exposed to harm, regardless of MOS.
The UN Bluehats are nowhere I have seen.
 
Lol! Who’s going to hit a U.S. Carrier? You thinking false flag? Gulf on Tonkin?

Conspiracies addle the brain.
Do you think that asm and sea drones are not a threat?

My opinion, surface ships are plum targets in any conflict.

CBR threats.....at this point, The RF and Iran have been co-developing drone operations in combat conditions. No reason The RF wouldn't share anti-ship technology with their ally.

The US has a lot of people in a very bad place.
 
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I know you don’t have much creativity and any criticism of Biden reflexively triggers a Trump insult in the same vein in your horribly addled brain.

But understand this. Trump’s ME policy was coherent, practical and largely deterred conflict. The same can’t be said of this administration.

So at least on this subject, you sniping at Trump is f*cking stupid and you should stop.

I have every belief Pompeo would be just as if it more effective in these circumstances. He was an excellent Secretary of State.
You get the award for most hilarious post of the day.

Trump policy and coherent don't belong in the same sentence.

You seem to be as delusional as trump's policy was incoherent. A dementia riddled bum could have had better policy and fewer scandals (according to conservatives that is being proven now)
 
I know you don’t have much creativity and any criticism of Biden reflexively triggers a Trump insult in the same vein in your horribly addled brain.

But understand this. Trump’s ME policy was coherent, practical and largely deterred conflict. The same can’t be said of this administration.

So at least on this subject, you sniping at Trump is f*cking stupid and you should stop.

I have every belief Pompeo would be just as if it more effective in these circumstances. He was an excellent Secretary of State.
Biden's ME policy basically is Trump's ME policy.
 
You get the award for most hilarious post of the day.

Trump policy and coherent don't belong in the same sentence.

You seem to be as delusional as trump's policy was incoherent. A dementia riddled bum could have had better policy and fewer scandals.
Let's have the discussion then Hickory. What is your largest criticism of the Trump foreign policy?

Typically the criticism I see is that he alienated some of our NATO allies by calling on them to step up and contribute and that he "cozied up" to dictators.

Is he not supposed to go talk to Putin, Xi, and Un? This NeoCon, Democrat idea that freezing out and shaming your adversaries is the path to peace is so moronic it boggles the mind. If I was president I would want the most open lines of communication to be with those countries that have the power and willingness to blow us off the map.

And it worked. Putin and Xi are rational actors. Evil maybe. But rational. And they believed in our willingness to strike back and as such didn't posture towards invasion.

How is it looking now? How's Jake Sully and Toni B doing at keeping the expansionist powers in the world contained?
 
The difference is no one is afraid of Biden. Trump OWNED Putin and KIM and HAMAS BECAUSE HE WAS A CRAZY JEW!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOOO FOUR YEARS OF PEACE AND CHEAP GAS right @dbmhoosier @DANC @Joe_Hoopsier they feared CRAY CRAY. Trump > Biden

I’m in so much pain
Sounds like you found where joe hides the bottle.
 
Biden's ME policy basically is Trump's ME policy.
Except without any backbone. Trump started his admin. by finishing off ISIS. Biden started his by getting 13 Americans killed in a completely embarrassing and pathetic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

And it took this administration two years to cop to the idea that the Abraham Accords might actually be prudent policy. Before that, they spent most of their time alienating Saudi.

And this is assuredly not Trump's foreign policy in regards to the ME. Iran was on economic life support when Biden came into office. Sanctioned to hell and back. Tony B and Biden gave them new life. Hope they like the results.
 
Let's have the discussion then Hickory. What is your largest criticism of the Trump foreign policy?

Typically the criticism I see is that he alienated some of our NATO allies by calling on them to step up and contribute and that he "cozied up" to dictators.

Is he not supposed to go talk to Putin, Xi, and Un? This NeoCon, Democrat idea that freezing out and shaming your adversaries is the path to peace is so moronic it boggles the mind. If I was president I would want the most open lines of communication to be with those countries that have the power and willingness to blow us off the map.

And it worked. Putin and Xi are rational actors. Evil maybe. But rational. And they believed in our willingness to strike back and as such didn't posture towards invasion.

How is it looking now? How's Jake Sully and Toni B doing at keeping the expansionist powers in the world contained?
Is he supposed to salute nk generals and claim putin is more trustworthy than us intelligence? That is not even mentioning colluding with them during election (or best case looking the other way/accepting their help).

And yes, how he handled NATO was a load of crap and canceling us out of the deal with Iran deal was next level stupid.

How about calling Mexicans rapists and murderers and pondering whether we can nuke drug cartels in Mexico?

His foreign policy showed he had no clue what he was doing.

A guy that thought we won the revolutionary war by taking over airports and apparently didn't realize wwii had already happened, was making policy decisions. Crazy. People making decisions should know what a history book looks like
 
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Is he supposed to salute nk generals and claim putin is more trustworthy than us intelligence? That is not even mentioning colluding with them during election (or best case looking the other way/accepting their help).

And yes, how he handled NATO was a load of crap and canceling us out of the deal with Iran deal was next level stupid.

How about calling Mexicans rapists and murderers and pondering whether we can nuke drug cartels in Mexico?

His foreign policy showed he had no clue what he was doing.

A guy that thought we won the revolutionary war by taking over airports and apparently didn't realize wwii had already happened, was making policy decisions. Crazy. People making decisions should know what a history book looks like

More vapid talking points. No depth of an argument. Typical for someone with little cognitive ability. Be better.
 
Yes they are in conflict. A lot of Palestinians are going to die as a result of Hamas’ cowardice.

Peace is not the objective of Hamas. When Palestinians have a new governing body Israel can negotiate with, then such things can be mentioned.

In your attempts to find nuance, you are invariably the most ignorant person on this board. Long on posturing, invariably short on nuance and details.
 
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Yes they are in conflict. A lot of Palestinians are going to die as a result of Hamas’ cowardice.

Peace is not the objective of Hamas. When Palestinians have a new governing body Israel can negotiate with, then such things can be mentioned.

In your attempts to find nuance, you are invariably the most ignorant person on this board. Long on posturing, invariably short on nuance and details.
So can't be anti-death of innocents regardless of side?
 
So can't be anti-death of innocents regardless of side?
You can’t. Significant innocent casualties will be the result of Israel eliminating Hamas.

There is no other way. If I am the first one to break this news to you I apologize.

You are a useful tool. Hamas counts on people like you to make Israel lose their nerve over dead civilians so Israel has to slink back behind its borders and await another terrorist attack.
 


I’ll tell you what. I don’t like Anthony Blinken, never have. I think a lot of his actions may have precipitated this conflict.

However, he seems to have been a steady hand on the wheel in the early days of this conflict. Seeing that video last week of Israeli’s hugging him exclaiming “We thought we were alone!”, makes you proud to be an American.

Time will tell, I think it’s in the administration nature to undercut Israel’s effort to completely eradicate Hamas and HZ. But until now he’s been pretty competent. And competence is in short supply in this administration.
Of course Israelis are going to kiss this Administration's ass - they need the US to survive.

Blinken is a clown, just like the rest of the Biden Administration.
 
Yes they are in conflict. A lot of Palestinians are going to die as a result of Hamas’ cowardice.

Peace is not the objective of Hamas. When Palestinians have a new governing body Israel can negotiate with, then such things can be mentioned.

In your attempts to find nuance, you are invariably the most ignorant person on this board. Long on posturing, invariably short on nuance and details.
So collateral damage is justifiable. That means any attacks on US citizens for past war crimes are acceptable too?

In your simplistic, cartoonish view of the world, there are only the 'good guys' versus the 'bad guys'.

But you always seem to assume that you know who the good guys are.

Its ironic that you see me as ignorant when you are deluded.
 
You can’t. Significant innocent casualties will be the result of Israel eliminating Hamas.

There is no other way. If I am the first one to break this news to you I apologize.

You are a useful tool. Hamas counts on people like you to make Israel lose their nerve over dead civilians so Israel has to slink back behind its borders and await another terrorist attack.
Lol
 
… No evidence … indeed

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nice graphic of 2km evacuation zone

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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-16-2023
 
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So collateral damage is justifiable. That means any attacks on US citizens for past war crimes are acceptable too?

In your simplistic, cartoonish view of the world, there are only the 'good guys' versus the 'bad guys'.

But you always seem to assume that you know who the good guys are.

Its ironic that you see me as ignorant when you are deluded.
In what world can Hamas be “good guys”?

 
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