No sane person’s … only the most cynical ideologues‘In what world can Hamas be “good guys”?
Israel releases images of babies murdered and burned by Hamas
Israel today released harrowing images of tiny babies who were murdered and burned by Hamas terrorists amid their ruthless attacks this weekend that saw hundreds of civilians killed.www.dailymail.co.uk
Israel under attack from Hamas
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In what world can Hamas be “good guys”?
Israel releases images of babies murdered and burned by Hamas
Israel today released harrowing images of tiny babies who were murdered and burned by Hamas terrorists amid their ruthless attacks this weekend that saw hundreds of civilians killed.
Well let's look at it from their perspective... Why are they doing what they are doing? What are the core drivers?
If you look at its isolation, sure it is evil what they did. But couldn't the Palestinians feel that the dozen Palestinians killed the week or the months before, did not justify their actions? (I am not promoting an eye for an eye point of view.)
In fact, nobody batted an eyelid when hundreds of Palestinians died this year alone. Or when you have the calculus of 1 Israeli soldier traded for 1000 Palestinian prisoners. Are they worth less? If you are being honest, then why are they worth less?
So if you apply that approach to anything or situation in life -- plus a dollop of short-term memory, then it's very easy to judge things in this world however inaccurately. That's when you get a 'good guy' versus a 'bad guy' scenario.
If one thing soccer can teach anyone; the one who reacts to a foul is usually the person who gets caught/punished by the ref.
Nobody grows up wanting to kill another person. What's driving humans to such desperate measures, sub-humanising people on both sides?
Anyone can rationalise their actions. Slave owners for the longest time could justify their approach.
But as I said earlier, this crap started a century ago -- and what we are seeing now is just certainly Newton's 3rd law and his 1st at this rate.
Its pointless to have this thread if all we do is either point out the obvious or virtue signal. Or like Gen Zs on social media -- reaffirm themselves only.
We ought to be discussing how this stuff started and what are the causes or triggers.
That at least will offer more depth in any future discussions.
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I believe the video is of Taliban in Afghanistan..it's been around for some time.
There was an analyst this morning saying virtually everything said publicly is specifically for internal consumption. All the nations have tremendous internal pressures and need to placate them. They suggested that the one group that desperately wants a broader war is Hamas. Everyone else, including Iran, wants to be seen as ready if not eager for it but aren't really wanting it. The longer Gaza stays a war zone, the more pressure will build to do something.
Closer. It's just some random Pakistani in a wedding procession.
If American military installations were deliberately put in civilian areas. Then collateral damage would be acceptable. In terms of historical context, we’re here because Palestinians are lead by a terrorist group and have rejected every peace proposal they’ve been offered for decades with no counter.
That’s all the historical context you need.
"Nobody grows up wanting to kill another person."
You're dead wrong about that. Palestinians, Iranians, Taliban, etc., all teach that Jews need to be killed. Not all Arabs and Muslims do, but enough groups do that it causes unending turmoil worldwide.
Can you give detail about the hundreds of Palestinians who died earlier this year? What was the situation?
As far as an Israeli life being worth more than a Palestinian, who determines that? It's the Palestinians who devalue their own lives by making Israeli lives more valuable.
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I believe that would be called a shotgun wedding....
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week!
Of course not. No one wants these crazies in their country.
Craze, have to disagree when you respond to Goats's statement, "Biden's ME policy basically is Trump's ME policy" by saying, "That isn't accurate at all" .
This commentary outlines where Biden's campaign rhetoric differed with Trump's policies toward Israel's dealings with the Palestinian issue, but points out how Biden has actually kept some of the Trump approach in place.
Some examples of Biden seemingly accepting the Trump doctrine included in the article are as follows...
Despite growing calls for conditioning or restricting US aid to Israel, Biden has actually increased Washington’s assistance to its chief ally in the region from the Obama and Trump days.
The Palestinian Liberation Organization’s mission to Washington – closed by Trump in 2018 – has not been reopened under Biden either, amid bipartisan domestic pressure against the move.
As a candidate, Biden promised to reopen the consulate, but more than a year and a half into his administration, the move has not materialised.
While US officials say they are still committed to re-establishing the diplomatic post, Biden and his top aides have been reluctant to publicly clash with Israel, which opposes reopening the consulate.
There was a time in this country when we prided ourselves on not letting politics go beyond our shores. We didn't always completely adhere to this. but foreign policy from president to president in the past which included Congress wasn't nearly as political as it has recently become.
So you're saying Biden lied during his campaign just so he could appear to be different than Trump?
Huh.
No.
Was attempting to show how political rhetoric during campaigns don't always pan out once in office.
Then concluded by saying how playing politics in matters of conducting foreign policy has increased recently thus not adhering to the once held brief that politics should not extend beyond our shores.
The middle east makes the south look like amateurs when it comes to gun fetishes.
Your fetish is my freedom son. Turn off your podcast and tune into COMMON SENSE RADIO and wait for a discount code to mid america arms. When you run into one of these Hamas ****ers at Kroger you’ll be ready
with all that's going on in the world and at the border aren't you glad the dems weren't able to get our guns!!! btw how many are you handling right now on the board? I'm taking down at least three
'political rhetoric' Like saying Mexico would pay for the wall, which Democrats say is a lie.
Can you post that discount code here? I need to arm up with the terrorist cells ready to be activated.
I'm the newer, nicer DANC now. I'm all about peace and understanding. And laughing at videos showing people shooting themselves or their loved ones.
Maybe. Or maybe reality got in his way. Or maybe they were never that different to begin with. Other than broad platitudes like "I won't cozy up to dictators" or "I will rebuild trust with our allies" did they even campaign on any differences in foreign policy?
i just pulled the scalps of marv bowl and goat on crime and guns.
It's almost noon. Start drinking again.
I get why Democrats use that 'cozy up to dictators' canard, but they totally miss the point of improved relations - and lack of aggression - that occured under Trump.
When you are playing macho with other people, they will respond in kind. Trump is a businessman and knows you don't always have to agree with people to negotiate with them.
He criticized China and put on embargos and started the China Initiative to counter Chinese spying and stealing of technology - only to have it repealed by Biden, due to supposed bias by the FBI (surprise! The Hunter laptop was verified then.)
Russia made no further moves against Ukraine, as it had in 2014. Trump armed Ukraine far more than Obama/Trump ever did and insisted NATO step up and meet its obligations.
This 'cozying up to dictators' is a complete lie that people like you continue to perpetuate, even though it's so easily proved wrong.
As I've often said at The Cooler we use the terms "liar" and "racist" too often and too carelessly as part of our political dialogue.
And I agree. That's why I was pointing out that is a 'lie' when Trump does it, but 'political rhetoric' when Democrats do it.
