Israel under attack from Hamas
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Yeah, that isn't gonna happen. You already have had an enemy with a bunch of time to prepare they are not going to give them another month to dig in. The Israelis have to take reasonable measures to protect civilian lives, that isn't reasonable. You would be increasing your own casualties.
Yes, the atheists in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, etc. were so much more reasonable.
Sure...just wondering how the others aren't thrown in his face. That's all.
I try not to be subjective, let alone impacted, in those situations.
Reminds me of the Wino Mom's Club (Mom's for Liberty now, then called Unify Carmel) was out to fight to get the rainbow back from the LGBTQ community. LOL It didn't work.
It all seems petty.
I meant the whole cradle of religion. Both sides.
What they do to their own people comes with its own set of consequences. The 'whataboutism' in the holy land has been the largest threat to this planet, and it isn't going away any time soon.
You have a better idea?
I'd say give the Palestinians sovereignty, but they can't seem to figure that out either.
I despise religion and what it does at extreme levels.
Take it to the Octagon!
It's strange how badly you feel the need to continue to justify Israel's actions, even when they aren't under question.
I have no idea, but neither does anyone else at this moment:
Russia has been capturing some of the US and NATO-provided weapons and equipment left on the battlefield in Ukraine and sending them to Iran, where the US believes Tehran will try to reverse-engineer the systems, four sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
Marv, not much of a need to reverse engineer an M4 or an ACOG. I can go buy an ACOG at any local shop and the internal working of an M4 are common knowledge.
Overly dramatized visual explanation.
Watch Dogs of War with Nic Cage and War Dogs with Jonah Hill. Both good movies about arms dealers. Nic Cage one is loosely based on a real life Russian arms dealer
The Levada Center found that 71 percent of the (Russian) population identified as Orthodox Christian ..... That's Russia, not USSR if you add old Soviet stats, the Mooslim pop increases. China is 50+ atheist, so you got something there, but Cambodia is 93% Buddhist......
So, maybe, I'm thinking, you really need to read more before speaking.
TIA
You joking right now? This news broke months ago.
From India to Israel, US weapons being used to attack its allies
It is being said that the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas is in possession of American weapons and that those were used in the latest carnage in Israel. US-made weapons have also been recovered from terrorists in Kashmir. How are the weapons being used against America's biggest friends?
U.S. arms left in Afghanistan are turning up in a different conflict
Since falling into the hands of the Taliban, some of the weapons have been seized from militants in Indian-controlled Kashmir in what experts say could be just the start of their global journey.
www.nbcnews.com
You should see how triggered mcm gets on St. Patrick's Day.
All that Guinness and wearing green thrown in his face? It's outrageous. And that particular conversion therapy is effective! Half the country claims they are part Irish on SPD. It's frickin' grooming!
The policy of the Soviet state was elimination of religion. The true believing Marxist-Leninist leaders of the USSR were atheists. It’s remarkable that so many citizens of the USSR secretly held on to their religious beliefs.
You joking right now? This news broke months ago.
From India to Israel, US weapons being used to attack its allies
It is being said that the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas is in possession of American weapons and that those were used in the latest carnage in Israel. US-made weapons have also been recovered from terrorists in Kashmir. How are the weapons being used against America's biggest friends?www.indiatoday.in
U.S. arms left in Afghanistan are turning up in a different conflict
Since falling into the hands of the Taliban, some of the weapons have been seized from militants in Indian-controlled Kashmir in what experts say could be just the start of their global journey.
I hadn't seen that, that is surprising given the Taliban is very Sunni and Iran is very Shiite. Since we left, they have fought battles against each other. If they have traced it, they have traced it. But why would the Taliban give weapons to Iran that could be used against the Taliban? They shouldn't be that dumb, should they?
What caused deadly Afghan-Iran border clashes? What happens next?
The two countries call for de-escalation after deadly clashes erupt apparently over river water-sharing dispute.
I am talking about the communist governments/movements. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. So maybe you can pick up a book with me.
TIA
Religion is not really the driving factor. Hell, a lot of Israelis are not religious, at all. Sure there are some orthodox Jews, but they are a minority (though growing).
Fun Stalin fact. Before getting into Marxism and rejecting religion he studied to be a priest. Went to a seminary and everything.
In fairness, I think Religion is much more of a driving factor for the Palestinians or at least Hamas. Maybe ethnic bigotry informed by religion.
I think for the Israelis it’s more the idea that 10 million of them can’t exactly pick up and move somewhere else.
When Israel has a negotiating partner, they will happily negotiate, as we’ve seen with the Abraham accords.
On the other hand, settlers tend to be very religious. That's a huge flashpoint in the conflict right there.
More complex on the Palestinian side, as it's more difficult to segment Islam and politics in any Arab population.
But this is not really a religious based conflict, it's an ethnic one over land and sovereignty.
I agree with the Israeli that JDB posted yesterday, Israel should have just withdrawn to the 1967 borders after the war and let Jordan and Egypt annex the area, rather than the endless occupation. Now neither of those countries want anything to do with absorbing the Palestinians.
Douglas Murray is one of the better rhetoricians out there.
Of course, the settlers have long been a problem. But they are a small minority of the Israeli population and could be dealt with
Notably. Last Saturday’s attack wasn’t on settlements. It was on Israeli territory that hasn’t been disputed at all except in the since that jihadists dispute the very existence of Israel.
As Twenty said, if this was an issue of Israel ceasing building settlements the conflict would be over tomorrow.
Israel’s population is becoming more Orthodox, so things will only get worse over time if this isn’t resolved in the next decade.
