Trump is now willing to play the game. Bodes very well for 2024.
Is it time to stick a fork in DeSantis?
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I wonder why that is...... could it be the old 'conservatives' turned out to not be that effective? Could it be that, despite their thoughtful analysis, the country continued to turn into a socialist liberal swamp?f
Sitting around, gazing at your navel, is nice for academics. Committed conservatives are looking for someone who can defend those principles in the real world and yes, drain the swamp.
It's not close to being the dominant Republican view. There's a lot of talk, mostly for political purposes, but look at the Congressional votes.
I linked the poll. He’s caused a loss of Republican support across the board. You can’t expect people used to discipline and respect to be cool with an undisciplined and disrespectful Commander In Chief.
Undisciplined? How do you get to where he is by being undisciplined?
When has he been disrespectful to the military? At CPAC he praised the military endlessly.
He doesn't get along with Miley, who ran his own hotline to the Chinese, but so what? Turns out Trump was right about him after our humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Are you proud of that?
So the answer for that is to become lunatics that disregard facts?
Did Pete give birth and I miss it? A benefit his position was entitled to use? Do you really think in any other job with that kind of responsibility and pay he would have gotten that benefit in whatever the time frame which wasn't on the job long ? If Pete werent gay he would never be in that position to begin with since you bring that up. He has his husband or wife or whatever to take care of his adopted children and money to pay for care avg people can't. His only qualification for even getting the job is being gay.
Face it, you have no clue what you ramble on about
You must be high. He’s an undisciplined disrespectful ass.
He didn’t get along with Mattis either, and he was beloved by the rank and file. He treated his military leadership like shit. That kind of stuff doesn’t fly all the way down.
Trump has been, and is, a disaster for the GOP.
You didn't answer the question - were you proud of our withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Mattis and Wiley have shown no respect for Trump as President. Big deal - Macarthur didn't respect Truman and got fired. Disagreements between the President and military happen all the time.
Get off your high horse.
And PS - military pay got its biggest pay increase in a decade under Trump.
Trump signs bill giving military members largest pay increase in a decade
President Donald Trump signed off Friday on nearly $1.4 trillion in spending, including a measure that will give members of the military their largest pay increase in 10 years.
The troops love him. Absolutely love him. Maybe not the warmongering brass at the top but the troops absolutely do.
This is who you voted for. Now shut up!
Of course not. Biden AND Trump disregarded military advice on how to exit Afghanistan. Trump screwed up with his negotiations with the Taliban, the mass release of Taliban prisoners and setting a date for withdrawal. Biden screwed up by announcing the new withdrawal date and then disregarding military advice on how to execute it. It was all a cluster f-ck.
Bull shit. Some do. Most don’t. You do know I still work with and deal with military personnel on a regular basis, don’t you?
My instinct is that all these lawsuits against trump are just bullshit. None of this takes this long. And he’s not going to jail even if GA does go forward. It won’t stop him from running.
So trump will get the nomination and we will lose. Or he won’t and run on his own and we will lose. Trump has guaranteed we lose in 24 under any scenario. So we just have to bite the bullet on him until he ages out after this election
our botched withdrawal was more on Trump than Biden.
Trump said he would get us out, had 4 yrs to do so, didn't, then stuck Biden with a bad timeline and mandates imposed by Trump's administration.
the Biden administration then handled it very badly, but how much of that is on Biden, and how much on his military advising him.
neither Trump nor Biden are experts on the logistics of such a withdrawal, nor would ever claim to be, but are dependent on those who are.
imo the advisors are most to blame.
making political hay out of it makes Pubs doing so look like opportunistic PsOS.
You two are great at denying reality. Reality is that the reliable Republican military votes of the past are far less reliable now and it’s 100 percent due to Trump and Trumpism.And PS - military pay got its biggest pay increase in a decade under Trump.
Trump signs bill giving military members largest pay increase in a decade
President Donald Trump signed off Friday on nearly $1.4 trillion in spending, including a measure that will give members of the military their largest pay increase in 10 years.www.fox5dc.com
How did Trump screw it up? No US military personnel were killed in 18 months while Trump was negotiating. What 'military advice' did he disregard?
Trump would not have withdrawn all maintenance support for the Afghanistan military and wouldn't have bugged out of Baghram AFB.
That withdrawal disaster is all on the guy you voted for.
No comment on how he 'disrespected' the military by increasing their pay more than Obama did?
You don’t have a clue about what Trump would have done. The fact is he disregarded military advice regularly. You’re talking about a guy that told his top military advisors that he wanted to leave NATO. The guy was a very irrational and dangerous CinC.
You keep saying that but provide no examples.
He didn't say he wanted to leave NATO. He inquired about it because we were carrying the lion's share of the load and wanted Europe to pay more for its own defense to stave off Russia - and guess what happened.
Democrats and Republicans have been trying to show the military how much they love them by passing pay increases that outpace inflation for almost 40 years now. That eliminated the pay gap. A 3% increase wasn’t earth shattering. Yay.
He did in fact say he wanted to leave NATO and that he would wait until reelection to do it. I know this because I heard it from a 3 star who heard Trump say it. Trump has sh•t for brains.
“When we marvel or roll our eyes at Trump supporters, we are asking the wrong question. Instead of asking how can they believe this nonsense, better to ask, What do they get out of Trumpism that makes them so willing to suppress reasoned thought?”
Forgot to add that his push to have NATO countries to increase their defense spending to at least 2% of GDP was a good thing. It wasn’t 100% successful, but there was some success there.
i question Trump's motives and who was pulling his strings on this more than sht for brains.
the dude flat can't be trusted, and that's over and above his pathological liar status.
Germany is probably the strongest European economy in NATO, yet its defense minister made the stunning admission that Germany cannot defend itself. What does that do for Article V‘s mutual defense commitment?
We are being taken advantage of by our so-called allies. NATO, has become a platform for collaborative decision- making and European social group-think. It is no longer a serious military treaty. I think Trump is right. Either the Europeans get serious and treat it like a military pact or we walk.
They like talking about hunter and Ukraine and how that could compromise Biden but seem to not care about Trump and Saudi Arabia sponsoring his golf tournaments
The question is better the other way around.
What is the “reasoned thought” behind . . .
No border enforcement
Hindering oil and gas production, transportation, and financing
Decriminalizing many crimes
Gun-crime leniency cuz offenders are Back
No serious priority for drug education, enforcement or interdiction
EV subsidies
No nuclear energy projects
All the youth trans-gender nonsense
Crickets about our miserable public education system
Huge sections of our great cities having more crime, pestilence , and danger than the third world
i could go on.
All while China is doing this.
China to increase defense spending by 7.2%
China's defense budget grew by 7.1% last year to 1.45 trillion yuan, faster than the 6.8% increase in 2021, according to official data.
Europe isn't going to help with that either. They are barely bothered to defend their own backyard, as long as Chinese commerce roles in, they will be more than happy to turn a blind eye to the goings-on in the Pacific.All while China is doing this.
China to increase defense spending by 7.2%
China's defense budget grew by 7.1% last year to 1.45 trillion yuan, faster than the 6.8% increase in 2021, according to official data.www.cnbc.com
If China ever attacked us, they’d be at war with all of NATO because of our treaty alliance. They’d also be at war with Australia and Japan due to our treaties with them. This is why alliances are a good thing.All while China is doing this.
China to increase defense spending by 7.2%
China's defense budget grew by 7.1% last year to 1.45 trillion yuan, faster than the 6.8% increase in 2021, according to official data.
No he didn’t. Besides, you are on Russia’s side in their war against Ukraine so why wouldn’t that be good with you? You, along with Iran and North Korea. You must be proud.
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That’s the theory, and it serves a useful purpose of deterrence. But when our partners can’t respond because of choices they made in the decades prior to the call of duty, what then?
Conversing with that guy is worse than pointless.
It’s a literal theft of your time, because he’s not capable of intelligent conversation.
It’s just boilerplate LWNJ talking points and a cascade of yabbuts.
He’s the only one I have on ignore and every time I see you or someone else respond like this, even though I can’t see what he wrote, I’m reminded of how good a decision that was.
NATO countries all have different military strengths. They’d certainly be a help in a war against China,
