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Interesting ESPN article on Knight successors (link)

When McRobbie goes, there will be a new crisis because the governor will essentially appoint the next president who will reflect the conservative agenda of Indiana politics. I don’t think that works at Indiana and we get more conflict. One Purdue is enough in Indiana.

yea, no racial prejudice in southern indiana.
Less Political Correctness and more Logic and Good Judgement
 
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Davis at IU had about the same B10 conference winning percentage as Beilein has in conference at Mich, and did it under much much tougher circumstances. (basically being almost an interim coach the whole time, and having IU nation working against him rather than for him, which had to make recruiting much tougher).

at UAB, after going 7-9 the 1st yr, was 55-25 in conference his last 5 yrs there, only once finishing lower than 3rd (5th), in a 14 school conference after that 1st yr. ..

at Texas Southern, MD was 88-20 in conference.
MD owned Purdue
 
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Less Political Correctness and more Logic and Good Judgement

good point.

people fail to grasp that the Gov appoints a majority of the board, thus rules over IU.

same with PU, which is how Daniels was able to effectively appoint himself PU prez, after being temporarily term limited.
 
how Alabama has never gone after MD, i know not.

IDK, maybe it's the fact that he has only ever had 2 season out of 19 with less than 10 loss (both of those were 9). Or maybe it's his overall 58% winning percentage that doesn't turn them on.

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?
Maybe it's the black coaches not recruiting white players. Regardless I don't understand the point of this comment what so ever
 
IDK, maybe it's the fact that he has only ever had 2 season out of 19 with less than 10 loss (both of those were 9). Or maybe it's his overall 58% winning percentage that doesn't turn them on.


Maybe it's the black coaches not recruiting white players. Regardless I don't understand the point of this comment what so ever

I think he’s trying to (lamely) infer that it is racism on the part of highly regarded white players and their families not wanting to play for a black coach. There are way too many factors at play in recruiting to make a claim like that IMO, unless you’re just trying to be provocative...
 
I think he’s trying to (lamely) infer that it is racism on the part of highly regarded white players and their families not wanting to play for a black coach. There are way too many factors at play in recruiting to make a claim like that IMO, unless you’re just trying to be provocative...

just stating reality

if you have examples of 5 star white HS players signing with a black coach, other than home school or some connection like his dad played with the black coach in college, go for it.

if you can't think of any, don't feel bad. there's probably a good reason you can't.

and don't say the sample size is too small to make a case, because it isn't.

not sayin, just sayin.
 
IDK, maybe it's the fact that he has only ever had 2 season out of 19 with less than 10 loss (both of those were 9). Or maybe it's his overall 58% winning percentage that doesn't turn them on.

up till this past yr with a new school, over 18 yrs as a head coach, MD's in conference record is 205 wins 95 losses, for a 68% plus winning percentage.

that's elite level over a long period.
 
up till this past yr with a new school, over 18 yrs as a head coach, MD's in conference record is 205 wins 95 losses, for a 68% plus winning percentage.

that's elite level over a long period.
Um, that is built on his record in the SWAC at Texas Southern, a conference that has finished at the bottom (literally the bottom) of the conference rankings over the last 20+ years:

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2019-04-09

His IU teams were 55-41 in the B1G, and in Conference USA with UAB, his teams were 62-34 (.646). That's universes away from "elite."

His teams haven't won an NCAA tournament game since 2006.

Yep, 2006.

And they haven't won an NIT tournament game since 2010.

It's fine that you like him, but to attempt to shape data to position him as something he's nowhere close to as a head coach is just terribly pathetic.

"that's elite level over a long period" -------> ROTFLMAO
 
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I think he’s trying to (lamely) infer that it is racism on the part of highly regarded white players and their families not wanting to play for a black coach. There are way too many factors at play in recruiting to make a claim like that IMO, unless you’re just trying to be provocative...

Totally agree.
 
Um, that is built on his record in the SWAC at Texas Southern, a conference that has finished at the bottom (literally the bottom) of the conference rankings over the last 20+ years:

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2019-04-09

His IU teams were 55-41 in the B1G, and in Conference USA with UAB, his teams were 62-34 (.646). That's universes away from "elite."

His teams haven't won an NCAA tournament game since 2006.

Yep, 2006.

And they haven't won an NIT tournament game since 2010.

It's fine that you like him, but to attempt to shape data to position him as something he's nowhere close to as a head coach is just terribly pathetic.

"that's elite level over a long period" -------> ROTFLMAO

I agree with this. I actually liked Mike Davis. He was a decent coach and by all accounts a good person. That said, he was (admittedly by his own account) in over his head @ IU @ that point in his career. And if we are being honest, I think his career has proven that his most successful stints have come @ smaller schools where expectations are lower as well as the pressure. That's his wheelhouse IMHO, coaching @ a school outside of the P5, and there is nothing wrong with that. .
 
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No power conference coaching for Mike Davis? Who’s to say for sure. He actually fulfills the Michigan A.D.‘s stated criteria better than the Howard hire Michigan made in the end, which rode on a wave of sentiment. And is a huge gamble under the rubric “proven head coach”.
 
MD benefited greatly from John Treloar and guys understanding how to play from RMK. Once they left ..... not so good.
It is also worth mentioning Brand had initially named MD and JT as co-coaches immediately after the ouster of RMK. JT politely declined and thus MD got his chance to be the next permanent head coach by default.
 
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It is also worth mentioning Brand had initially named MD and JT as co-coaches immediately after the ouster of RMK. JT politely declined and thus MD got his chance to be the next permanent head coach by default.

One thing I’ve never forgiven Davis for is when he gave that son of a ***** the game ball after the team made the final four. There you had Tom Coverdale sitting in a wheelchair after playing his heart out two nights ago and you give the game ball to that despicable, worthless piece of ****. Don’t know if that made it onto TV or not, but I’ll never forget it. Never seen a more nauseating, self-serving display in my life...
 
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Three quarters of the members of the Big 12 had officially complained to the conference about Sampson cheating. Our search committee and administration knew that. We took out Oklahoma's trash and pretended it was ok. They hired a cheater. Period. Minority status or not, you NEVER hire a known cheater.
how did you hear about the big 12 schools complaining about sampson? was it about more than phone calls?
 
One thing I’ve never forgiven Davis for is when he gave that son of a ***** the game ball after the team made the final four. There you had Tom Coverdale sitting in a wheelchair after playing his heart out two nights ago and you give the game ball to that despicable, worthless piece of ****. Don’t know if that made it onto TV or not, but I’ll never forget it. Never seen a more nauseating, self-serving display in my life...
who got the game ball?
 
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One thing I’ve never forgiven Davis for is when he gave that son of a ***** the game ball after the team made the final four. There you had Tom Coverdale sitting in a wheelchair after playing his heart out two nights ago and you give the game ball to that despicable, worthless piece of ****. Don’t know if that made it onto TV or not, but I’ll never forget it. Never seen a more nauseating, self-serving display in my life...
Assuming you mean the game ball went to Brand, I did not know this.
 
how did you hear about the big 12 schools complaining about sampson? was it about more than phone calls?

Sampson beat the posse out of Norman, before sanctions hit for OU for violations while KS was prez of the coaches' assoc.

hiring him at that time, was like driving through Nebraska from Colorado, with a NORML bumper sticker on your rear bumper.

good chance you're going to be stopped and searched for an improper lane change.

i think it might have been for similar stuff at OU that got him in trouble here, which if so, was spitting in their face even more.

when he came here, he brought the NCAA microscope with him, as they were pissed IU would reward someone they were trying to punish.

then KS lied to the NCAA after he got into hot water here.

and while everyone makes some big deal about IU self reporting, i think our self reporting was the equivalent of NORML bumper sticker guy self reporting pot use, right before he turns in his urine sample.
 
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