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Interesting ESPN article on Knight successors (link)

More non-sense from writers and wanna-be experts on all things IU. If you're quoting Dakich, you should at least point out he wanted the job and his conflict of interest in everything he says.

It's no secret after Coach Knight was fired it was Myles Brand and the spineless board of trustees who wanted to de-emphasize IU basketball and never let a coach have that much power again.

Doing what they could to avoid Open Door (sunshine) laws they booted Coach Knight and began the process of taking the program down a notch. But they still needed the money! What they failed to realize is Bob Knight was making IU a ton of money but he was not making them pay him like a top tier coach. From that point on these pin heads couldn't figure out how to identify, hire, and pay for a top coach. They tried to cut corners.

Davis was not a great coach. Every Davis conversation must include "he's a good guy" but nobody really cares at this point. His fragile ego was as much to blame as people not accepting him. Sampson can coach but never fit in at Indiana and was too stupid to follow basic rules he had already been punished for violating. IU should have known better. Dakich has proven over an over why he should never lead a top program. Crean is another nice guy but his used car salesman routine got old fast and he could not figure out why Indiana high school kids and their coaches did not warm to him. At least IU realized you have to start paying for coaches. Archie is still to be decided and although he is not off to a great start I still have hope for him.

Fred Glass gets a lot of blame and some of it is fair, but he did realize college basketball is an arms race. Facilities, salaries, promotion are all part of the game. When you have schools building luxury housing facilities, giving them a private chef, and working it out where they end up in a $300,000+ car, you have to make some tough decisions to compete.

In spite of all of that, it's those in charge at the very top that put things into motion. They shot the program in the back because they wanted to prove a point and had no clue what to do next. They cut ties and moved on with their lives but the program did not.
 
(or in some cases suck-sessors). For me, it shows a pattern of AD and pres. not doing due diligence for the hiring process for the last 18 years.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26786665/indiana-ever-really-move-bob-knight
The search and hiring of Kelvin Sampson and the determination to take down the program displayed by IU's administration prove beyond all doubt that the people who run the university do not want a program good enough or well known enough to be a bright light that outshines the trustees and administration. That attitude is pervasive at the top of the institution. Why on earth any decent university would ever have hired Kelvin Sampson for any job is beyond understanding. You should have been there.
 
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The search and hiring of Kelvin Sampson and the determination to take down the program displayed by IU's administration prove beyond all doubt that the people who run the university do not want a program good enough or well known enough to be a bright light that outshines the trustees and administration. That attitude is pervasive at the top of the institution. Why on earth any decent university would ever have hired Kelvin Sampson for any job is beyond understanding. You should have been there.
I would be fine with reducing the emphasis on the basketball program if the administration elevated the standing of the university. Unfortunately, the university is at or near the bottom of the Big Ten in most rankings. I’m not sure what this administration is doing well....
 
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Don't even list the 1973 Final Four? Says bunches about how well researched this is...
What, that’s what you got out of the article? LOL! It wasn’t about Knight’s accolades it was about whether or not IU can return to glory.

Man, no wonder why our coaches get so much grief from the fans. They are focused only on the trivial matters of past glories!
 
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(or in some cases suck-sessors). For me, it shows a pattern of AD and pres. not doing due diligence for the hiring process for the last 18 years.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26786665/indiana-ever-really-move-bob-knight
The writers pretty much came to the same conclusion I did. They had to hire Davis because he did so well his first couple years, but when he was let go in 2006, that was the time to find the right guy. I hear it was the President (Herbert) at the time who insisted on hiring a minority and thus Sampson.

It was also brought up how silly it was for the minor infraction of phone calls is what ruined the program (Sampson did bring in some unsavoury characters, though, too).
 
Our administration has made so many blunders the past 19 years that it's honestly impossible to believe. Matta should've been hired when he started killing it at Xavier. Beilein was the obvious choice over Sampson. Crean should've been fired after year 3 and Stevens brought in. We should've hired Marshall instead of Archie. You can go on and on. I keep hoping that Mcrobbie, Glass, and Shoulders will be run out of town and we finally get an administration that knows its ass from its elbow but it all seems like a lost cause at this point. I'm afraid it's over boys.
 
Why on earth any decent university would ever have hired Kelvin Sampson for any job is beyond understanding.
IU is a noted liberal-minded school of higher learning. Chief...excuse me, Coach Sampson was considered a minority hire. Herbert got an extra pat on the back for a minority hire. It was the thing to do to be cool.
 
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Our administration has made so many blunders the past 19 years that it's honestly impossible to believe. Matta should've been hired when he started killing it at Xavier. Beilein was the obvious choice over Sampson. Crean should've been fired after year 3 and Stevens brought in. We should've hired Marshall instead of Archie. You can go on and on. I keep hoping that Mcrobbie, Glass, and Shoulders will be run out of town and we finally get an administration that knows its ass from its elbow but it all seems like a lost cause at this point. I'm afraid it's over boys.
I agree with everything save “it’s over.” Archie might turn out to be okay. Regardless, with the benefit of time passing, the administration will turn over. Nothing stays the same....
 
More non-sense from writers and wanna-be experts on all things IU. If you're quoting Dakich, you should at least point out he wanted the job and his conflict of interest in everything he says.

It's no secret after Coach Knight was fired it was Myles Brand and the spineless board of trustees who wanted to de-emphasize IU basketball and never let a coach have that much power again.

Doing what they could to avoid Open Door (sunshine) laws they booted Coach Knight and began the process of taking the program down a notch. But they still needed the money! What they failed to realize is Bob Knight was making IU a ton of money but he was not making them pay him like a top tier coach. From that point on these pin heads couldn't figure out how to identify, hire, and pay for a top coach. They tried to cut corners.

Davis was not a great coach. Every Davis conversation must include "he's a good guy" but nobody really cares at this point. His fragile ego was as much to blame as people not accepting him. Sampson can coach but never fit in at Indiana and was too stupid to follow basic rules he had already been punished for violating. IU should have known better. Dakich has proven over an over why he should never lead a top program. Crean is another nice guy but his used car salesman routine got old fast and he could not figure out why Indiana high school kids and their coaches did not warm to him. At least IU realized you have to start paying for coaches. Archie is still to be decided and although he is not off to a great start I still have hope for him.

Fred Glass gets a lot of blame and some of it is fair, but he did realize college basketball is an arms race. Facilities, salaries, promotion are all part of the game. When you have schools building luxury housing facilities, giving them a private chef, and working it out where they end up in a $300,000+ car, you have to make some tough decisions to compete.

In spite of all of that, it's those in charge at the very top that put things into motion. They shot the program in the back because they wanted to prove a point and had no clue what to do next. They cut ties and moved on with their lives but the program did not.

A), de-emphasizing basketball, and not wanting the coach to have the same amount of power as Knight, are hardly one and the same.

B), Mike Davis was a much better coach than given credit for.

that 2002 team flat out played hard, as hard as any IU team ever, and played flat out great defense.

and those guys barely saw the floor under Knight, were 2 yrs removed, not one, so don't give me the "Knight's team" crappola. (and outplayed Kelvin Sampson's OU team in the final 4).

big men really prospered and developed with MD's teams.

JJ, Newton, DJ, Marco.

his final team at IU is probably top 10 if DJ doesn't go down at the beginning of the season, changing the entire look of the team.

has any coach in the nation, ever, had to try and recruit and coach in a more maliciously spiteful and vindictive atmosphere than MD did.

NO. nothing else even comes remotely close.

it was absolutely disgraceful, and combined with the blind worship of an obviously total ahole to everyone outside IU/RMK nation, no doubt placed IU basketball in a very bad light.

that said, how many black coaches have ever been highly successful long term in the midwest at the highest level?

how many in the nation? ever?

would have been interesting to see how well Mike Davis could have done at IU with the fan backing all his successors have gotten, rather than everyone publicly spitting not only in his face, but those he recruited, even white players, just because of who recruited them and who they played for.

not sure we are as open minded as we would like to think we are. and it's not just IU.

pop quiz,

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?

how Alabama has never gone after MD, i know not.
 
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IU is a noted liberal-minded school of higher learning. Chief...excuse me, Coach Sampson was considered a minority hire. Herbert got an extra pat on the back for a minority hire. It was the thing to do to be cool.
Sampson could actually coach.
 
IU is a noted liberal-minded school of higher learning. Chief...excuse me, Coach Sampson was considered a minority hire. Herbert got an extra pat on the back for a minority hire. It was the thing to do to be cool.
Three quarters of the members of the Big 12 had officially complained to the conference about Sampson cheating. Our search committee and administration knew that. We took out Oklahoma's trash and pretended it was ok. They hired a cheater. Period. Minority status or not, you NEVER hire a known cheater.
 
A), de-emphasizing basketball, and not wanting the coach to have the same amount of power as Knight, are hardly one and the same.

B), Mike Davis was a much better coach than given credit for.

that 2002 team flat out played hard, as hard as any IU team ever, and played flat out great defense.

and those guys barely saw the floor under Knight, were 2 yrs removed, not one, so don't give me the "Knight's team" crappola. (and outplayed Kelvin Sampson's OU team in the final 4).

big men really prospered and developed with MD's teams.

JJ, Newton, DJ, Marco.

his final team at IU is probably top 10 if DJ doesn't go down at the beginning of the season, changing the entire look of the team.

has any coach in the nation, ever, had to try and recruit and coach in a more maliciously spiteful and vindictive atmosphere than MD did.

NO. nothing else even comes remotely close.

it was absolutely disgraceful, and combined with the blind worship of an obviously total ahole to everyone outside IU/RMK nation, no doubt placed IU basketball in a very bad light.

that said, how many black coaches have ever been highly successful long term in the midwest at the highest level?

how many in the nation? ever?

would have been interesting to see how well Mike Davis could have done at IU with the fan backing all his successors have gotten, rather than everyone publicly spitting not only in his face, but those he recruited, even white players, just because of who recruited them and who they played for.

not sure we are as open minded as we would like to think we are. and it's not just IU.

pop quiz,

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?

how Alabama has never gone after MD, i know not.
Bahahahahhahahhahaha. Whiny race comments are getting so fn old. Mike Davis a good coach? BahahahahhahahAhahahahhahah
 
Three quarters of the members of the Big 12 had officially complained to the conference about Sampson cheating. Our search committee and administration knew that. We took out Oklahoma's trash and pretended it was ok. They hired a cheater. Period. Minority status or not, you NEVER hire a known cheater.
So what cheating, specifically, did three quarters of the members of the Big 12 complain about regarding Sampson? Too many phone calls? Phone calls during no contact time? Payments to players? What egregious acts did Sampson commit that warranted such distain from his coaching peers?

Houston administrators will argue your final statement. The last I heard, they were all whistling "Dixie" while cashing those alumni checks the postman keeps delivering in unprecedented numbers. Winning does that sort of thing, you know. Haven't you heard? Sampson is clean now and looks mighty good on the sideline in his patented blue Oxford cloth shirt with buttoned down collar.
 
A), de-emphasizing basketball, and not wanting the coach to have the same amount of power as Knight, are hardly one and the same.

B), Mike Davis was a much better coach than given credit for.

that 2002 team flat out played hard, as hard as any IU team ever, and played flat out great defense.

and those guys barely saw the floor under Knight, were 2 yrs removed, not one, so don't give me the "Knight's team" crappola. (and outplayed Kelvin Sampson's OU team in the final 4).

big men really prospered and developed with MD's teams.

JJ, Newton, DJ, Marco.

his final team at IU is probably top 10 if DJ doesn't go down at the beginning of the season, changing the entire look of the team.

has any coach in the nation, ever, had to try and recruit and coach in a more maliciously spiteful and vindictive atmosphere than MD did.

NO. nothing else even comes remotely close.

it was absolutely disgraceful, and combined with the blind worship of an obviously total ahole to everyone outside IU/RMK nation, no doubt placed IU basketball in a very bad light.

that said, how many black coaches have ever been highly successful long term in the midwest at the highest level?

how many in the nation? ever?

would have been interesting to see how well Mike Davis could have done at IU with the fan backing all his successors have gotten, rather than everyone publicly spitting not only in his face, but those he recruited, even white players, just because of who recruited them and who they played for.

not sure we are as open minded as we would like to think we are. and it's not just IU.

pop quiz,

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?

how Alabama has never gone after MD, i know not.
MD is the 2nd best coach we’ve had since RMK. Only behind Sampson. And it’s not even close. If he coached with IU’s current standards and expectations we’d be building a statue of him outside AH.
 
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A), de-emphasizing basketball, and not wanting the coach to have the same amount of power as Knight, are hardly one and the same.

B), Mike Davis was a much better coach than given credit for.

that 2002 team flat out played hard, as hard as any IU team ever, and played flat out great defense.

and those guys barely saw the floor under Knight, were 2 yrs removed, not one, so don't give me the "Knight's team" crappola. (and outplayed Kelvin Sampson's OU team in the final 4).

big men really prospered and developed with MD's teams.

JJ, Newton, DJ, Marco.

his final team at IU is probably top 10 if DJ doesn't go down at the beginning of the season, changing the entire look of the team.

has any coach in the nation, ever, had to try and recruit and coach in a more maliciously spiteful and vindictive atmosphere than MD did.

NO. nothing else even comes remotely close.

it was absolutely disgraceful, and combined with the blind worship of an obviously total ahole to everyone outside IU/RMK nation, no doubt placed IU basketball in a very bad light.

that said, how many black coaches have ever been highly successful long term in the midwest at the highest level?

how many in the nation? ever?

would have been interesting to see how well Mike Davis could have done at IU with the fan backing all his successors have gotten, rather than everyone publicly spitting not only in his face, but those he recruited, even white players, just because of who recruited them and who they played for.

not sure we are as open minded as we would like to think we are. and it's not just IU.

pop quiz,

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?

how Alabama has never gone after MD, i know not.
Fife played 23 minutes as a soph under RMK, Newton played 19 minutes as a frosh, Odle got 10 minutes as a soph, Hornsby got 10 minutes as a frosh, Leach couldn't play because the IU admins goofed up, and Cov was positioned to play a bunch as was reported widely on the old Peegs board after he got in shape. JJ wasn't even an IU student when RMK's final season ended.

Otherwise you're spot on with your statement about guys that didn't play under RMK and magically flourished under MD.

MD benefited greatly from John Treloar and guys understanding how to play from RMK. Once they left ..... not so good.

ORLANDO 1!!!
 
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Fife played 23 minutes as a soph under RMK, Newton played 19 minutes as a frosh, Odle got 10 minutes as a soph, Hornsby got 10 minutes as a frosh, Leach couldn't play because the IU admins goofed up, and Cov was positioned to play a bunch as was reported widely on the old Peegs board after he got in shape. JJ wasn't even an IU student when RMK's final season ended.

Otherwise you're spot on with your statement about guys that didn't play under RMK and magically flourished under MD.

MD benefited greatly from John Treloar and guys understanding how to play from RMK. Once they left ..... not so good.

ORLANDO 1!!!

21 pts a game total for all those guys under Knight.

2002 wasn't Knight's team, as much as the cult wants it to be.

IU is top 10 MD's last yr, if DJ doesn't go down.

that changed IU at 4 positions. DJ was the irreplaceable piece that yr.

much better coach than given credit for, and would have had a 3rd win over a #1 team while at UAB, if not for a blown last second call.
 
MD is the 2nd best coach we’ve had since RMK. Only behind Sampson. And it’s not even close. If he coached with IU’s current standards and expectations we’d be building a statue of him outside AH.

Sampson didn't look better than MD when they went head to head.

IU looked the better coached that day.
 
21 pts a game total for all those guys under Knight.

2002 wasn't Knight's team, as much as the cult wants it to be.

IU is top 10 MD's last yr, if DJ doesn't go down.

that changed IU at 4 positions. DJ was the irreplaceable piece that yr.

much better coach than given credit for, and would have had a 3rd win over a #1 team while at UAB, if not for a blown last second call.
Well, the team they played on in 1999-2000 for RMK had Guyton, Haston, and Lewis average a combined 55 ppg. How much do you think they would score?

You're not making sense.
 
Our administration has made so many blunders the past 19 years that it's honestly impossible to believe. Matta should've been hired when he started killing it at Xavier. Beilein was the obvious choice over Sampson. Crean should've been fired after year 3 and Stevens brought in. We should've hired Marshall instead of Archie. You can go on and on. I keep hoping that Mcrobbie, Glass, and Shoulders will be run out of town and we finally get an administration that knows its ass from its elbow but it all seems like a lost cause at this point. I'm afraid it's over boys.

Guessing that McRobbie will retire after the IU Bicentenial. It's all he's focused on now.
 
Our administration has made so many blunders the past 19 years that it's honestly impossible to believe. Matta should've been hired when he started killing it at Xavier. Beilein was the obvious choice over Sampson. Crean should've been fired after year 3 and Stevens brought in. We should've hired Marshall instead of Archie. You can go on and on. I keep hoping that Mcrobbie, Glass, and Shoulders will be run out of town and we finally get an administration that knows its ass from its elbow but it all seems like a lost cause at this point. I'm afraid it's over boys.
According to Rabjohns, the choice was Crean or Beilein.
 
So what cheating, specifically, did three quarters of the members of the Big 12 complain about regarding Sampson? Too many phone calls? Phone calls during no contact time? Payments to players? What egregious acts did Sampson commit that warranted such distain from his coaching peers?

Houston administrators will argue your final statement. The last I heard, they were all whistling "Dixie" while cashing those alumni checks the postman keeps delivering in unprecedented numbers. Winning does that sort of thing, you know. Haven't you heard? Sampson is clean now and looks mighty good on the sideline in his patented blue Oxford cloth shirt with buttoned down collar.
Never saw a list. Don't know that there was even a list. The complaints I heard of were recruiting violations, grade cheating. You know, the level of severity doesn't matter. You either don't cheat at anything or you do cheat and that makes you a cheater. I know that at least one of the complaints was lodged by Texas Tech. I know that the IU search committee and administration officials who were involved knew about that before they interviewed Sampson. We all know that Sampson got 5 years off from coaching NCAA basketball. How much and what type of cheating is ok with some fans?
 
What, that’s what you got out of the article? LOL! It wasn’t about Knight’s accolades it was about whether or not IU can return to glory.

Man, no wonder why our coaches get so much grief from the fans. They are focused only on the trivial matters of past glories!
My intent was it spoke volumes about how in depth the authors (or the editors) knowledge of Indiana Basketball appeared. If something so basic and easy to confirm was misstated, then I'll question how well reasoned their conclusions are as well.

For what it's worth, I think the majority of the opinions stated in the article are on target. The missed opportunity for BB was when Davis left. Coach Knight had a unique situation where over the years he pretty much became answerable to no one. For sure the administration was determined never to allow anyone to become as "untouchable" as Coach Knight became for myriad reasons.

Looking at the AD as a whole, not only was the BB program affected by those changes, but Football was affected by the same philosophy as well. Until the B1G 10 network cash started rolling in, we were never going to be able to compete financially against the majority of the conference. IU's TV revenue from 2 years ago was more than the entire Athletic Department budget a decade ago. Athletics was also hurt when the administration decided out of state tuition was to be paid for out of state athletes. That alone more than doubled the scholarship costs to the department and that was in the late 80's. Tuition hasn't gotten any cheaper.

The entire climate of college athletics has been distorted by television revenue across all sports over the last 15-20 years. Wishing for a return to bygone era just isn't going to happen. Either you become a Duke, UNC, Kentucky, or Alabama or Clemson and all that implies, or you accept that adhering to a set of ethical standards means challenges to sustained elite success. It's not impossible, but won't be easy. Look at Florida/Florida State in FB as examples.

Just my .02 cents...
 
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I agree with everything save “it’s over.” Archie might turn out to be okay. Regardless, with the benefit of time passing, the administration will turn over. Nothing stays the same....
"Nothing stays the same" and "everything runs it's cycle" (even the good times) - two common statements I've borrowed on many occasion.

Yeah, I hope Archie does okay in the long run. I was never one to jump ship too frequently on coaches. It always seems to set the program back a few years such that the program always seems to be set back. I've resolved myself to letting this one run it's coarse, however long that may be. Coaching changes tire me out, wanting something that never seems to be. "It is what it is" is another one of mine, yet, borrowed from one of earlier experience. Now, if I can only figure out what it is, the "It" that I speak of that's been said is it.
 
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pop quiz,

name 5 white five star or Mc Donald's AA HS players, ever, who were successfully recruited by a black coach, other than at that player's geographic home school, or for whom there was some very strong legacy tie, such as the player's father played on the same college team with the black coach.

ok, name 4.

three?

two?

one?

can someone, anyone, name even one? ever?

The closest I can come up with are Sam Jacobson and Joel Pryzbilla at Minnesota under Clem, but both were from the state of Minnesota. White 5-star players can't be more than about 15% frequency so it is not a big pool to begin with.

On Mike Davis, there is no question that the vitriol would have been less had he been two to three coaches removed from Knight. But it isn't as if Davis has been a world beater since his days at Indiana. The reason? He isn't that great. Ok coach, yes. Not a Big Ten level coach though. Tubby and Clem both were.
 
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More non-sense from writers and wanna-be experts on all things IU. If you're quoting Dakich, you should at least point out he wanted the job and his conflict of interest in everything he says.

It's no secret after Coach Knight was fired it was Myles Brand and the spineless board of trustees who wanted to de-emphasize IU basketball and never let a coach have that much power again.

Doing what they could to avoid Open Door (sunshine) laws they booted Coach Knight and began the process of taking the program down a notch. But they still needed the money! What they failed to realize is Bob Knight was making IU a ton of money but he was not making them pay him like a top tier coach. From that point on these pin heads couldn't figure out how to identify, hire, and pay for a top coach. They tried to cut corners.

Davis was not a great coach. Every Davis conversation must include "he's a good guy" but nobody really cares at this point. His fragile ego was as much to blame as people not accepting him. Sampson can coach but never fit in at Indiana and was too stupid to follow basic rules he had already been punished for violating. IU should have known better. Dakich has proven over an over why he should never lead a top program. Crean is another nice guy but his used car salesman routine got old fast and he could not figure out why Indiana high school kids and their coaches did not warm to him. At least IU realized you have to start paying for coaches. Archie is still to be decided and although he is not off to a great start I still have hope for him.

Fred Glass gets a lot of blame and some of it is fair, but he did realize college basketball is an arms race. Facilities, salaries, promotion are all part of the game. When you have schools building luxury housing facilities, giving them a private chef, and working it out where they end up in a $300,000+ car, you have to make some tough decisions to compete.

In spite of all of that, it's those in charge at the very top that put things into motion. They shot the program in the back because they wanted to prove a point and had no clue what to do next. They cut ties and moved on with their lives but the program did not.
 
The closest I can come up with are Sam Jacobson and Joel Pryzbilla at Minnesota under Clem, but both were from the state of Minnesota. White 5-star players can't be more than about 15% frequency so it is not a big pool to begin with.

On Mike Davis, there is no question that the vitriol would have been less had he been two to three coaches removed from Knight. But it isn't as if Davis has been a world beater since his days at Indiana. The reason? He isn't that great. Ok coach, yes. Not a Big Ten level coach though. Tubby and Clem both were.

I beg to disagree. Mike Davis achieved quite a bit in his first two years at Indiana, and now he says he’s hundred times better coach than he was then. His not spectacular results at UAB and Texas Southern reflect the material he had to work with. Now he’s at Detroit Mercy which might actually be the right path for him to achieve greatness. Or achieve redux.
 
I beg to disagree. Mike Davis achieved quite a bit in his first two years at Indiana, and now he says he’s hundred times better coach than he was then. His not spectacular results at UAB and Texas Southern reflect the material he had to work with. Now he’s at Detroit Mercy which might actually be the right path for him to achieve greatness. Or achieve redux.
I recall reading an article where he said that he should’ve started at Texas Southern and ended up at Indiana and not the other way around.
 
When McRobbie goes, there will be a new crisis because the governor will essentially appoint the next president who will reflect the conservative agenda of Indiana politics. I don’t think that works at Indiana and we get more conflict. One Purdue is enough in Indiana.
Bahahahahhahahhahaha. Whiny race comments are getting so fn old. Mike Davis a good coach? BahahahahhahahAhahahahhahah
yea, no racial prejudice in southern indiana.
 
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I would be fine with reducing the emphasis on the basketball program if the administration elevated the standing of the university. Unfortunately, the university is at or near the bottom of the Big Ten in most rankings. I’m not sure what this administration is doing well....
That is total bull shit. Show the results and where the data came from.
 
I beg to disagree. Mike Davis achieved quite a bit in his first two years at Indiana, and now he says he’s hundred times better coach than he was then. His not spectacular results at UAB and Texas Southern reflect the material he had to work with. Now he’s at Detroit Mercy which might actually be the right path for him to achieve greatness. Or achieve redux.

Davis at IU had about the same B10 conference winning percentage as Beilein has in conference at Mich, and did it under much much tougher circumstances. (basically being almost an interim coach the whole time, and having IU nation working against him rather than for him, which had to make recruiting much tougher).

at UAB, after going 7-9 the 1st yr, was 55-25 in conference his last 5 yrs there, only once finishing lower than 3rd (5th), in a 14 school conference after that 1st yr. ..

at Texas Southern, MD was 88-20 in conference.
 
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