Indiana FB Commits With Recent Offers:

[red hornet]

Baylor Wilkin, OL by MSU

Tristan Abram, WDE by Michigan

Earlier Byron Baldwin was offered by Alabama. To me this reflects how well our scouting, & recruiting by this staff has been.

 

[Kelly_32]

We may lose a few guys but I have no doubt, if we keep on winning, that we will poach a few players ourselves.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

This far, we’ve lost 2 verbal commits this year;
Chris McCorkle and Travares Daniels II.

 

[IUgradman]

This far, we’ve lost 2 verbal commits this year;
Chris McCorkle and Travares Daniels II.

Their loss. IU is in better shape than Kansas and Maryland right now.

 

[vesuvius13]

With the way the season is going, IU can pull in better recruits. Why the recruits can't stay for their commitment is beyond me.

 

[td75]

I would naturally assume that our recruiting will obviously take off with a strong first year under Cignetti. As I said the other day, Cignetti's offense is going to attract talent.

The showcase we saw on Saturday is very appealing to skill position players.

 

[red hornet]

I would naturally assume that our recruiting will obviously take off with a strong first year under Cignetti. As I said the other day, Cignetti's offense is going to attract talent.

The showcase we saw on Saturday is very appealing to skill position players.

Right, & ultimately, the strength of this Indiana team may be with the defense.

 

[4IUSox2]

Saw one of our commits from TN was at PU recruiting wknd for the ND game. A LB, I think. Hopefully still in good position with him.

 

[vesuvius13]

Saw one of our commits from TN was at PU recruiting wknd for the ND game. A LB, I think. Hopefully still in good position with him.

Watching the beating PU had I don't think it attracted him to PU maybe ND.

 

[76-1]

Watching the beating PU had I don't think it attracted him to PU maybe ND.

He probably got a good laugh out of it, I know I did...

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Saw one of our commits from TN was at PU recruiting wknd for the ND game. A LB, I think. Hopefully still in good position with him.

Kyler Garcia - DT
He had them at the top of his list along with IU and Wisconsin. Although verballed to IU, he’s pretty much undecided and will likely shop around. Regardless of how the season plays out.

 

[Jssanto]

Some guys that decommitt might do so because they envision their playing time go down with the talent IU could now attract.

 

[mobilehoosier]

Since NIL, it feels like every recruit wants to know how much.
That's reasonable since I would too.
For me:

• Win
• Stack cash for NIL
• Go get the most violent and nasty big guys and fastest skill guys and coach em up.

I'm starting to really like Cig. Go Hoosiers!

 

[4IUSox2]

Mobile, would love it if IU could tap into the hs talent pool of the Mobile area at places like Shaw, UMS, St Paul’s etc. Having produced talents like Nick Fairley, AJ McCarron, Mark Barron and Chris Samuels just to name a few. While those kind of guys will obviously stay in state, Bama and Auburn can’t get them all either. There are plenty of under the radar guys from your talent-rich area that would be great additions at IU.

 

[Jssanto]

Mobile, would love it if IU could tap into the hs talent pool of the Mobile area at places like Shaw, UMS, St Paul’s etc. Having produced talents like Nick Fairley, AJ McCarron, Mark Barron and Chris Samuels just to name a few. While those kind of guys will obviously stay in state, Bama and Auburn can’t get them all either. There are plenty of under the radar guys from your talent-rich area that would be great additions at IU.

There certainly seem to be pool areas. Florida and Texas are considered big areas. I think we haved pulled 3 stars from there. Be nice to now pull some 4 and 5 stars.
To do that, my opinion, we need more than a 3-0 start. With being guilty of looking ahead, I can see us beating Charlotte and NW. That makes a Maryland win the only thing standing between us and a 6-0 start.

 

[Tammany Hall]

This whole commit and then still visit other schools is pretty silly. IU recruits committed players too.

I don't care much, but it would be nice when players become university employees next year (true professionals), when a player agrees to terms with school, they can sign a contract anytime and that's the "commitment".

 

[OpenWheels]

Did somebody already post that Tennessee is going to allocate a 10% ticket 'surcharge' to NIL?

If everything is legal now... Gives a leg up to the larger stadiums with the best crowds.

 

[Kelly_32]

Did somebody already post that Tennessee is going to allocate a 10% ticket 'surcharge' to NIL?

If everything is legal now... Gives a leg up to the larger stadiums with the best crowds.

Pay $100 for a ticket

Vol receiver drops a game winning pass

80,000 people want their $10 back from the player

 

[OpenWheels]

This whole commit and then still visit other schools is pretty silly. IU recruits committed players too.

I don't care much, but it would be nice when players become university employees next year (true professionals), when a player agrees to terms with school, they can sign a contract anytime and that's the "commitment".

Hmm, that's a good idea. I would think 'NIL anytime' is fine. It's their name and image. Would seem like language could be written in disallowing competing products.

 

[mobilehoosier]

Mobile, would love it if IU could tap into the hs talent pool of the Mobile area at places like Shaw, UMS, St Paul’s etc. Having produced talents like Nick Fairley, AJ McCarron, Mark Barron and Chris Samuels just to name a few. While those kind of guys will obviously stay in state, Bama and Auburn can’t get them all either. There are plenty of under the radar guys from your talent-rich area that would be great additions at IU.

Thx for the local recognition:
Trust me, kids here would love to play in the B1G too. Coaches have to come and visit first.
Bring $$. The SEC does and that's not a knock.
Parents and children want a quality education and a future like everywhere else.
I'm confident every coach in the B1G would be welcome in living rooms here.
FYI - AJ coaches Cal Ripken ball for fun. Talent everywhere and they get to meet their hero's at the baseball field.
My son's friend (spend the night friend) went to Tennessee as a receiver. Class of 21. McGill Toolin Catholic.
I asked him if Indiana ever contacted. He said nothing more than mail. No personal contact.
Thats what I got for ya. Go Hoosiers!

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Did somebody already post that Tennessee is going to allocate a 10% ticket 'surcharge' to NIL?

If everything is legal now... Gives a leg up to the larger stadiums with the best crowds.

Under the current rules, I don’t see how a university revenue-earning event can redirect any of those funds to NIL.
NIL is arranged around donations apart from the university’s direct involvement. The collective takes in the funds and then pays the individual. The money cannot land first with the university or a direct employee and then be funneled into NIL
If so, a school could get very creative with ways to “launder” the money. Like paying a coach $30 million a year with a clause that he has to give up $25 million (and keep $5 mill) to the NIL collective.

 

[JohnsyRick]

Kyler Garcia - DT
He had them at the top of his list along with IU and Wisconsin. Although verballed to IU, he’s pretty much undecided and will likely shop around. Regardless of how the season plays out.

From what I know, Garcia is solid with us, he was joining a friend on the PU trip

 

[OpenWheels]

Under the current rules, I don’t see how a university revenue-earning event can redirect any of those funds to NIL.
NIL is arranged around donations apart from the university’s direct involvement. The collective takes in the funds and then pays the individual. The money cannot land first with the university or a direct employee and then be funneled into NIL
If so, a school could get very creative with ways to “launder” the money. Like paying a coach $30 million a year with a clause that he has to give up $25 million (and keep $5 mill) to the NIL collective.

Then how is Tennessee going to skirt it? Reported all over.

 

[OpenWheels]

Then how is Tennessee going to skirt it? Reported all over.

Ahh, it's going straight into UT pockets, to 'offset' the coming revenue sharing. Lol. I hope when they go to ask for NIL the fans say "I already gave...".

 

[Jssanto]

This whole commit and then still visit other schools is pretty silly. IU recruits committed players too.

I don't care much, but it would be nice when players become university employees next year (true professionals), when a player agrees to terms with school, they can sign a contract anytime and that's the "commitment".

I am not sure I understand every detail, but your idea of a player being a university employee sounds like it could be a good straight forward idea.
A football star would likely get the most, a basketball star the next level, then the other players falling in based on their sport’s income production and the player’s contribution to that team.
But would the source of the current NIL money be the same? Would some dry up?

 

[Tammany Hall]

I am not sure I understand every detail, but your idea of a player being a university employee sounds like it could be a good straight forward idea.
A football star would likely get the most, a basketball star the next level, then the other players falling in based on their sport’s income production and the player’s contribution to that team.
But would the source of the current NIL money be the same? Would some dry up?

The employee thing is happening next year, definitely not my idea. I don't know all the details either, and I could be wrong on some of this I just read about this topic and look at the IU AD financial reports. Here is how players will get paid next year:

1) NIL: The same thing we've seen since 2021. Players can be paid for their Name, Image, and Likeness (such as commercials or being a spokesperson), but in reality it's donors funneling $ to players for their commitment. Collectives make it easy for donors to pool their $ and get it to players. Key takeaway is this is all donor money.

2) Revenue Share: Starts in 2025, and this money comes straight from the University. Per the results of the player lawsuit, athletic depts now have to share some of their revenue with the players. Athletic dept revenue is media rights, ticket sales, merch, donations, etc. The revenue share is capped at about $22M and while it's not decided by the courts/NCAA/conferences/whoever yet, probably 75% of that will go to football. This is the new dynamic that makes athletes university employees.

Players will get rev share and NIL. Will NIL change? For most Big 10 and SEC schools, I would guess not much. The revenue share is capped, it's the same for Ohio State as it is for IU, and the source for paying revenue share is mostly media rights increases. Since the revenue share doesn't provide an advantage given it's capped, the donors will still be giving to NIL collectives to provide their school an advantage in paying players, just like they do today. Some donors may pull back because they feel revenue share is enough for the players, but most will keep giving because NIL is where schools can get an advantage.

I've only looked at IU's situation. Some schools that may have NIL issues with the rev share kicking in are ones with athletic depts in bad financial shape, such as Washington. UW is going to have trouble paying the rev share, and they may need donors to help pay the rev share, which could reduce donors ability to also contribute to NIL. This could also happen at smaller athletic depts, but I haven't looked at those situations.

IU appears to be in great shape to pay the rev share because the Big 10 gives us enormous media rights that cover the big new $22M rev share expense coming next year. Our athletic dept should also get credit for being well run from a financial standpoint. This means our donors are probably unburdened by rev share and they can keep giving to NIL, and IU also has money to keep investing in all the teams.

 

[Jssanto]

The employee thing is happening next year, definitely not my idea. I don't know all the details either, and I could be wrong on some of this I just read about this topic and look at the IU AD financial reports. Here is how players will get paid next year:

1) NIL: The same thing we've seen since 2021. Players can be paid for their Name, Image, and Likeness (such as commercials or being a spokesperson), but in reality it's donors funneling $ to players for their commitment. Collectives make it easy for donors to pool their $ and get it to players. Key takeaway is this is all donor money.

2) Revenue Share: Starts in 2025, and this money comes straight from the University. Per the results of the player lawsuit, athletic depts now have to share some of their revenue with the players. Athletic dept revenue is media rights, ticket sales, merch, donations, etc. The revenue share is capped at about $22M and while it's not decided by the courts/NCAA/conferences/whoever yet, probably 75% of that will go to football. This is the new dynamic that makes athletes university employees.

Players will get rev share and NIL. Will NIL change? For most Big 10 and SEC schools, I would guess not much. The revenue share is capped, it's the same for Ohio State as it is for IU, and the source for paying revenue share is mostly media rights increases. Since the revenue share doesn't provide an advantage given it's capped, the donors will still be giving to NIL collectives to provide their school an advantage in paying players, just like they do today. Some donors may pull back because they feel revenue share is enough for the players, but most will keep giving because NIL is where schools can get an advantage.

I've only looked at IU's situation. Some schools that may have NIL issues with the rev share kicking in are ones with athletic depts in bad financial shape, such as Washington. UW is going to have trouble paying the rev share, and they may need donors to help pay the rev share, which could reduce donors ability to also contribute to NIL. This could also happen at smaller athletic depts, but I haven't looked at those situations.

IU appears to be in great shape to pay the rev share because the Big 10 gives us enormous media rights that cover the big new $22M rev share expense coming next year. Our athletic dept should also get credit for being well run from a financial standpoint. This means our donors are probably unburdened by rev share and they can keep giving to NIL, and IU also has money to keep investing in all the teams.

Thanks for explaining.
I understand it is reality and not going away. But I prefer talking about yards after catch, 3 point shot percentage, etc and not salary cap, NIL, hold outs and hold ins.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Thanks for explaining.
I understand it is reality and not going away. But I prefer talking about yards after catch, 3 point shot percentage, etc and not salary cap, NIL, hold outs and hold ins.

Yea. There has been a ton of change with paying players the past three years, and we've probably got another two years to go before the changes slow down.

 

[JohnsyRick]

I’m not worried about Kyler Garcia at this point, but Baldwin is visiting Colorado this weekend, god knows what Deion might pull. All I can say is , if he flips to that dumpster fire, that’s on him, and good luck……he’ll need it

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Then how is Tennessee going to skirt it? Reported all over.

After reading all the details, this actually has nothing to do with NIL. The university cannot funnel funds from the school or its employees directly into the third party NIL collectives.
This surcharge is related entirely to the revenue sharing piece that is a whole separate thing. This involves the pending decision that schools must share part of their own revenues with players.
The University of Tennessee is adding a 10% surcharge to ticket prices for the 2025–2026 season to help pay student-athletes through a revenue-sharing plan. The surcharge, called a "talent fee", will apply to all sports and both single-game and season tickets. The money will go into a pool that will be shared with athletes if a proposed legal settlement is approved. The settlement would require major college sports programs to share about 20% of their revenue with players.

 

[OpenWheels]

After reading all the details, this actually has nothing to do with NIL. ...

Yeah, I acknowledged that in my next post.

Good details and summary. TY.
,

 

[Baller23Boogie]

I’m not worried about Kyler Garcia at this point, but Baldwin is visiting Colorado this weekend, god knows what Deion might pull. All I can say is , if he flips to that dumpster fire, that’s on him, and good luck……he’ll need it

Unless something changes, he's likely gone.

 

[Tammany Hall]

After reading all the details, this actually has nothing to do with NIL. The university cannot funnel funds from the school or its employees directly into the third party NIL collectives.
This surcharge is related entirely to the revenue sharing piece that is a whole separate thing. This involves the pending decision that schools must share part of their own revenues with players.
The University of Tennessee is adding a 10% surcharge to ticket prices for the 2025–2026 season to help pay student-athletes through a revenue-sharing plan. The surcharge, called a "talent fee", will apply to all sports and both single-game and season tickets. The money will go into a pool that will be shared with athletes if a proposed legal settlement is approved. The settlement would require major college sports programs to share about 20% of their revenue with players.

TN is aggressive. The revenue share is capped at $22M, and TN almost certainly doesn't need this surcharge to pay for it, media rights increases easily cover it for them (and most SEC and B1G schools) and they already make plenty of revenue from football/gameday.

They're basically just increasing tickets prices and using rev share as an excuse. They're very good and have probably the most dedicated fanbase in football, so obviously they can raise prices.

 

[red hornet]

Byron Baldwin just flipped to Colorado with Prime telling him he'd be a starting safety next yr.!

 

[IUgradman]

Byron Baldwin just flipped to Colorado with Prime telling him he'd be a starting safety next yr.!

Not seeing that on Twitter

 

[red hornet]

On SB Nation & ON3

 

[midwolfe]

On SB Nation & ON3

Sucks, but we’ll be okay

 

[td75]

Cignetti will be dipping into the transfer portal once again.

 

[4IUSox2]

Cignetti will be dipping into the transfer portal once again.

More JMU’ers, please, after the beat down of UNC.

 

[Kelly_32]

Byron Baldwin just flipped to Colorado with Prime telling him he'd be a starting safety next yr.!

Don’t even care. Cignetti will get dudes.