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How's That Electric Grid Improvement Holding Up?

I want to like this guy because he's a dyed in wool constitutionalist and his Conservative credentials are impeccable. But his transparent opportunism and shit like this is why he'll never be POTUS. And he creeps people out. Still better than Beto though.
Agreed on all fronts. Assuming the photo is legit (I.e. now) what’s bizarre is that he wouldn’t fly private to avoid this pic. He has the dough and it’s not that expensive
 
Agreed on all fronts. Assuming the photo is legit (I.e. now) what’s bizarre is that he wouldn’t fly private to avoid this pic. He has the dough and it’s not that expensive
You'd think if it wasn't real he'd be having a field day with it. He's pretty quiet.

I mean. hahahahah

 
The bigger crime is those sneakers and jeans Ted is wearing and the fact that he's letting his daughter eat cup of noodles (on a plane!).
Dude I can smell those noodles from here. And on a plane.....**sharpens pitchfork**
 
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There is a time and place for Cup O' Ramen. And that time is absolutely never, I wont even accept it from a college student on a late night study bender.
Buttered Noodles > Ramen

Every time
 
This can't be real right? He's can't be THIS BAD at politics and honestly consider running for President again. Shirley? My Lord what and absolute MORAN.


Yawn.

Has Uncle Ho Biden been to Texas? KKKamela?

If, as this thread says, it’s a Texas state government/Texas state grid problem, what can a Senator do?

Is there ever a time when Senator should take a vacation? Should we close Camp David?

Shyster Shuster is just vote-whoring by proxy - pander-playing the puppets.

Any body who cares about this is trying hard to be offended and THAT is the biggest problem we have. “How can I hate somebody today? Any fine media folks got an idea?”



What this thread needs is less partisan bullshit and more Tesla.
 
Yawn.

Has Uncle Ho Biden been to Texas? KKKamela?

If, as this thread says, it’s a Texas state government/Texas state grid problem, what can a Senator do?

Is there ever a time when Senator should take a vacation? Should we close Camp David?

Shyster Shuster is just vote-whoring by proxy - pander-playing the puppets.

Any body who cares about this is trying hard to be offended and THAT is the biggest problem we have. “How can I hate somebody today? Any fine media folks got an idea?”



What this thread needs is less partisan bullshit and more Tesla.
Maybe instead of bitching about 'the other side' our elected vote whores shoulda been worrying about stuff like the electric grid?

Well one prominent Texas vote whore is in Cancun.

To be sure, you're right - they should have worried about this when there were problems in 2011 and 2018. To be even more sure, Texas is a weird case in and of itself. They have the resources to both produce and supply enough energy to service their population without being on the national grid (outside of some areas of West Texas which, by the way, didn't fail) and they have enough population to consume that energy without having to "release" it to the national grid. Good for them. I have no problem with it. But they also didn't regulate their industries in a fashion that would have prevented this, even after seeing what happened in both 2011 and 2018. I bet they do now.

Does Ted Cruz bear any responsibility for that? I guess not since he's only a sitting US Senator and not a state senator or representative. I'm sure he could exert zero influence in that state.

Finally, I really don't have a dog in this fight other than making fun of Ted Cruz b/c he's objectively awful at being a politician or a statesman.
 
This can't be real right? He's can't be THIS BAD at politics and honestly consider running for President again. Shirley? My Lord what and absolute MORAN.

Wow......David Schuster crawled out of Keith Olbermann's arse long enough to tweet that..........
Thanks, David.........resume
 
Wow......David Schuster crawled out of Keith Olbermann's arse long enough to tweet that..........
Thanks, David.........resume
I have no idea who David Schuster is nor do I care. Care to comment on Cruz?
 
I have no idea who David Schuster is nor do I care. Care to comment on Cruz?
Sure.
I think if he's on his on his way to Cancun at this time, then he is just like any other out-of-touch politician.

I'm sure your indignation over this is on par with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin leaving parking lots full of unused school busses during Hurricane Katrina, while hundreds of his constituents were stranded and/or died.

Didn't think so. And neither was that turd David Schuster's. Educate yourself on who he is.......
 
I'm sure your indignation over this is on par with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin leaving parking lots full of unused school busses during Hurricane Katrina, while hundreds of his constituents were stranded and/or died.

Didn't think so. And neither was that turd David Schuster's. Educate yourself on who he is.......

Had I been here then, sure. Retroactively - he's a POS and for far more than just that.
 
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Well one prominent Texas vote whore is in Cancun.

To be sure, you're right - they should have worried about this when there were problems in 2011 and 2018. To be even more sure, Texas is a weird case in and of itself. They have the resources to both produce and supply enough energy to service their population without being on the national grid (outside of some areas of West Texas which, by the way, didn't fail) and they have enough population to consume that energy without having to "release" it to the national grid. Good for them. I have no problem with it. But they also didn't regulate their industries in a fashion that would have prevented this, even after seeing what happened in both 2011 and 2018. I bet they do now.

Does Ted Cruz bear any responsibility for that? I guess not since he's only a sitting US Senator and not a state senator or representative. I'm sure he could exert zero influence in that state.

Finally, I really don't have a dog in this fight other than making fun of Ted Cruz b/c he's objectively awful at being a politician or a statesman.

Very few problems in both El Paso and Beaumont. I wonder what the argument for NOT winterizing is for the rest of the state? El Paso sort of rubbed it in...

"After the 2011 winter freeze, El Paso Electric, on the Western Interconnect grid, spent heavily to "winterize our equipment and facilities so they could stand minus-10 degree weather for a sustained period of time," Eddie Gutierrez, an El Paso Electric spokesman, told KHOU. So this year, "we had about three thousand people that were out during this period, a thousand of them had outages that were less than five minutes."


On the other side of Texas, near the Louisiana border, the city of Beaumont also appears to have weather the storm without massive outages. Entergy, which powers Beaumont on the Eastern Interconnect grid, told KHOU it also winterized its infrastructure after the 2011 storm. Weatherizing power generation and extraction equipment is voluntary in Texas, though the state legislature will probably revisit that strategy when it dissects ERCOT this year."

 
Very few problems in both El Paso and Beaumont. I wonder what the argument for NOT winterizing is for the rest of the state? El Paso sort of rubbed it in...

"After the 2011 winter freeze, El Paso Electric, on the Western Interconnect grid, spent heavily to "winterize our equipment and facilities so they could stand minus-10 degree weather for a sustained period of time," Eddie Gutierrez, an El Paso Electric spokesman, told KHOU. So this year, "we had about three thousand people that were out during this period, a thousand of them had outages that were less than five minutes."


On the other side of Texas, near the Louisiana border, the city of Beaumont also appears to have weather the storm without massive outages. Entergy, which powers Beaumont on the Eastern Interconnect grid, told KHOU it also winterized its infrastructure after the 2011 storm. Weatherizing power generation and extraction equipment is voluntary in Texas, though the state legislature will probably revisit that strategy when it dissects ERCOT this year."


CNN says everybody (well, somebody) is burning their kids toys for heat.

Meanwhile, Science Whitey is landing on Mars today.

EAT THE RICH!


(Twice, I have gone 9 days without electricity. Once in September 2008 from the remnants of Hurricane Ike, and again in January 2009 from an ice storm that put over 609,000 Kentucky homes/business buildings (and around 25-25% of people) out of power, some for 45 days. I do not recall much national press from either - even though the 2008 storm was the same week as the Ryder Cup here. But you let a storm head for NYC or do some damage in a politically-incorrect area - BOOM, its Blame Game 24/7!)
 
CNN says everybody (well, somebody) is burning their kids toys for heat.

Meanwhile, Science Whitey is landing on Mars today.

EAT THE RICH!


(Twice, I have gone 9 days without electricity. Once in September 2008 from the remnants of Hurricane Ike, and again in January 2009 from an ice storm that put over 609,000 Kentucky homes/business buildings (and around 25-25% of people) out of power, some for 45 days. I do not recall much national press from either - even though the 2008 storm was the same week as the Ryder Cup here. But you let a storm head for NYC or do some damage in a politically-incorrect area - BOOM, its Blame Game 24/7!)
Dude, "Science Whitey" actually made me LOL. Bravo.
 
spend $$$$ on green energy it cost a lot to produce!

WTF are you on about? Green Energy as been proven to not be the problem in TX. It will create jobs and make us fossil fuel independent in the future as well. Finally, green energy costs nothing to "produce", so I really have no clue what you're trying to say bud.
 
WTF are you on about? Green Energy as been proven to not be the problem in TX. It will create jobs and make us fossil fuel independent in the future as well. Finally, green energy costs nothing to "produce", so I really have no clue what you're trying to say bud.

There are multiple factors that put Texas in this position. Green energy is not exempt from blame. Yes lack of natural gas was the largest offender, because it's the largest power source. Every natural gas plant the wasn't down for scheduled maintenance operated fine, they had an inordinate down for maintenance because it is winter, in Texas, and this is when you do maintenance as there is less need for AC.

All the arm chair energy specialists that think feakin' TEXAS should have had all their turbines winterized and pipelines cold insulated need to take a beat.

The little existing storage of wind energy that was available also failed because the batteries froze. Read the thread below if you still think knee jerk simplifications are applicable here:

 
There are multiple factors that put Texas in this position. Green energy is not exempt from blame. Yes lack of natural gas was the largest offender, because it's the largest power source. Every natural gas plant the wasn't down for scheduled maintenance operated fine, they had an inordinate down for maintenance because it is winter, in Texas, and this is when you do maintenance as there is less need for AC.

All the arm chair energy specialists that think feakin' TEXAS should have had all their turbines winterized and pipelines cold insulated need to take a beat.

The little existing storage of wind energy that was available also failed because the batteries froze. Read the thread below if you still think knee jerk simplifications are applicable here:


Wind energy supplies less than 8% of their winter power. Yet Abbott and others went onto Fox and portrayed renewable energy failure as why their grid went down. Try and keep up.
 
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Wind energy supplies less than 8% of their winter power. Yet Abbott and others went onto Fox and portrayed renewable energy failure as why their grid went down. Try and keep up.

And? What is your point. The fact is wind can't be ramped up in times of overdemand (150% in Texas currently) and crisis, natural gas and coal can. So in some ways Abbott is right, although if he was portraying wind as the key offender he was being disingenuous.

Sorry if I burst your bubble in not allowing you to think of this issue as simplistically as you'd like.
 
And? What is your point. The fact is wind can't be ramped up in times of overdemand (150% in Texas currently) and crisis, natural gas and coal can. So in some ways Abbott is right, although if he was portraying wind as the key offender he was being disingenuous.

Sorry if I burst your bubble in not allowing you to think of this issue as simplistically as you'd like.

You burst nothing. Fossil fuels failed TX, yet the GOP in TX went onto national news and blamed renewable energy. Only renewable energy. And the Green New Deal that doesn't exist. This isn't binary you simpleton. There are issues with all energy. That doesn't change the point, and you're still very wrong.
 
You burst nothing. Fossil fuels failed TX, yet the GOP in TX went onto national news and blamed renewable energy. Only renewable energy. And the Green New Deal that doesn't exist. This isn't binary you simpleton. There are issues with all energy. That doesn't change the point, and you're still very wrong.

How did natural gas fail Texas? They took a bunch offline for maintenance and were caught off guard by a 100 year storm. Poor management maybe, but nothing inherent about natural gas "failed". And why are you making personal insults?

Natural gas is currently trying to meet the delta as other energy sources have been crippled by the weather, especially wind. See below:



Natural gas is currently trying to meet the excess demand, again 150% demand is no joke, even with all sources operating at 100% capacity this would be a challenge.

You'd be better off confining your argument to winterization and cold insulation, at least there you could claim you had foresight that Texas didn't.

But as is you're overreaching to try and make a political point or something.
 
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You burst nothing. Fossil fuels failed TX, yet the GOP in TX went onto national news and blamed renewable energy. Only renewable energy. And the Green New Deal that doesn't exist. This isn't binary you simpleton. There are issues with all energy. That doesn't change the point, and you're still very wrong.
How did natural gas fail Texas? They took a bunch offline for maintenance and were caught off guard by a 100 year storm. Poor management maybe, but nothing inherent about natural gas "failed". And why are you making personal insults?

Natural gas is currently trying to meet the delta as other energy sources have been crippled by the weather, especially wind. See below:



Natural gas is currently trying to meet the excess demand, again 150% demand is no joke, even with all sources operating at 100% capacity this would be a challenge.

You'd be better off confining your argument to winterization and cold insulation, at least there you could claim you had foresight that Texas didn't.

But as is you're overreaching to try and make a political point or something.
You guys are both wrong. None of the various sources of energy failed Texas. Texas failed Texas. Texas was warned to prepare for this kind of cold spell, and they refused. Now they are paying the price. It's not wind's fault, it's not coal's fault, it's not gas' fault. It's Texas' fault.
 
You guys are both wrong. None of the various sources of energy failed Texas. Texas failed Texas. Texas was warned to prepare for this kind of cold spell, and they refused. Now they are paying the price. It's not wind's fault, it's not coal's fault, it's not gas' fault. It's Texas' fault.
Texas was too busy worrying about what Pennsylvania was doing about their energy situation.
 
How did natural gas fail Texas? They took a bunch offline for maintenance and were caught off guard by a 100 year storm. Poor management maybe, but nothing inherent about natural gas "failed". And why are you making personal insults?

Natural gas is currently trying to meet the delta as other energy sources have been crippled by the weather, especially wind. See below:



Natural gas is currently trying to meet the excess demand, again 150% demand is no joke, even with all sources operating at 100% capacity this would be a challenge.

You'd be better off confining your argument to winterization and cold insulation, at least there you could claim you had foresight that Texas didn't.

But as is you're overreaching to try and make a political point or something.

Fossil fuels make up over 92% of the ERCOT run, TX power grid. TX chose not to winterize their power grid, and to deregulate it. I've brought that up and linked articles stating it. Try and keep up.
 
You guys are both wrong. None of the various sources of energy failed Texas. Texas failed Texas. Texas was warned to prepare for this kind of cold spell, and they refused. Now they are paying the price. It's not wind's fault, it's not coal's fault, it's not gas' fault. It's Texas' fault.

Do you not believe that is the point I was making (maybe not so succinctly)......... people not energy sources. And Grateful keeps claiming that "fossil fuels" failed, I'm not sure he's aware that they don't even use crude oil for electricity.
 
You guys are both wrong. None of the various sources of energy failed Texas. Texas failed Texas. Texas was warned to prepare for this kind of cold spell, and they refused. Now they are paying the price. It's not wind's fault, it's not coal's fault, it's not gas' fault. It's Texas' fault.

Really??? I linked articles proving that already. Try and keep up.
 
Do you not believe that is the point I was making (maybe not so succinctly)......... people not energy sources. And Grateful keeps claiming that "fossil fuels" failed, I'm not sure he's aware that they don't even use crude oil for electricity.

Really? 92% of their grid is based on fossil fuels. They have no power. Which power plants failed them?
 
Do you not believe that is the point I was making (maybe not so succinctly)......... people not energy sources. And Grateful keeps claiming that "fossil fuels" failed, I'm not sure he's aware that they don't even use crude oil for electricity.
It sounded to me like you were trying to make that point while also making clear that, "Yeah, but, it's really because wind power sucks."
 
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Texas decided not to winterize natural gas, oil, solar, and wind. Also energy STORAGE and transmission. All of those CAN be winterized. These rarely need to be, since winters in all but northern Texas rarely have much below-freezing weather. But climate change is rearing its ugly head, much to the chagrin of those who deny its existence.
 
It sounded to me like you were trying to make that point while also making clear that, "Yeah, but, it's really because wind power sucks."

Wind isn't scalable and if not winterized can fail, those are inherent disadvantages. Not that it doesn't have it's advantages as well, ie: saving the planet.
 
Really? 92% of their grid is based on fossil fuels. They have no power. Which power plants failed them?

You keep saying fossil fuels which implies petroleum and natural gas sources. It's just natural gas. So I guess you're guilty of being inexact, but I doubt you knew that to begin with.
 
Texas decided not to winterize natural gas, oil, solar, and wind. Also energy STORAGE and transmission. All of those CAN be winterized. These rarely need to be, since winters in all but northern Texas rarely have much below-freezing weather. But climate change is rearing its ugly head, much to the chagrin of those who deny its existence.
Maybe you guys need to make it into a meme with a picture of happy white people titled "What the Liberals don't want you to know" and have their paranoid friend send it to them on facebook before they finally get it through their thick heads. Simply stating facts isn't working.
 
Wind isn't scalable and if not winterized can fail, those are inherent disadvantages. Not that it doesn't have it's advantages as well, ie: saving the planet.
Everything can fail if not winterized, that's the issue. Texas didn't prepare for this, even though they were warned it could happen. They also knew that their peak demand was creeping perilously close to their peak production capability, so even a small-scale failure was likely to cripple the system.
 
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Texas decided not to winterize natural gas, oil, solar, and wind. Also energy STORAGE and transmission. All of those CAN be winterized. These rarely need to be, since winters in all but northern Texas rarely have much below-freezing weather. But climate change is rearing its ugly head, much to the chagrin of those who deny its existence.

I was told there is a difference between climate and weather.
 
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