Peter Brady joined the Sunflower Girls.Just waiting for a guy to try women’s tennis or the WNBA.
Peter Brady joined the Sunflower Girls.Just waiting for a guy to try women’s tennis or the WNBA.
The issue is not overblown. Only a very small percentage of all people manage to become an elite athlete. If one becomes an elite athlete only because it’s a boy competing as a girl, it’s a big deal.1.4 percent of kids age 13-17 are transgender. And only a fraction of that are biological boys that are now girls (some would be girls that are now boys). And only a fraction of those are actual athletes in sports.
An estimate from last year guesses that there are only around 100 transgender athletes that are biologically boys playing on girls teams across the entire United States.
So this issue is rather overblown.
However, while I think transgenders should have rights, I would think any that want to play sports should do so based on their biological gender and not based on gender identity.
If I was Lia Thomas, I'd forfeit that championship. It's just a travesty that (s)he won it at all.
The issue is not overblown. Only a very small percentage of all people manage to become an elite athlete. If one becomes an elite athlete only because it’s a boy competing as a girl, it’s a big deal.
That's true. I couldn't help but picture high school self deciding to go for a state championship by pulling on a female swimsuit and declaring I was female. Picture a West German woman with more chest hair . . . Nope, don't do that! 😮If she had that kind of honor, she wouldn't have competed in the first place.
You misspelled he…twiceIf she had that kind of honor, she wouldn't have competed in the first place.
You misspelled he…twice
Societal norms matterNaw, I'll call someone whatever they want (he or she, but not they). The pronouns have no bearing on the subject at hand.
Societal norms matter
Which I why you should call him what he is and not play his stupid games.Which is why I don't support Thompson and her competing as a woman.
Which I why you should call him what he is and not play his stupid games.
Point, laugh, and ridicule would be better for him than going along with the charade
I get it…not many Folgers instant drinkers out thereNot my style. I'm pretty much a Live and Let Live kind of guy, even with freaks and misfits. I don't fit in well myself very often, so I have some sympathy for these people.
So Actually NOT whatever THEY want, but whatever you are OK with calling them.Naw, I'll call someone whatever they want (he or she, but not they).
Naw, I'll call someone whatever they want (he or she, but not they).
So Actually NOT whatever THEY want, but whatever you are OK with calling them.
They has been an acceptable singular pronoun for centuries. Shakespeare used it.My objection to calling someone "they" is grammatical. Ironically, I blew that in my own post quoted above. Should have been "I'll call someone whatever he wants..." "Someone" is singular, calling for "he", not "they". All this woke language shit even catches grammar Nazis like me on occasion.
Yeah, but he made up words.They has been an acceptable singular pronoun for centuries. Shakespeare used it.
What I find interesting is that you (and I sometimes) think our notion of decorum says we should use a person’s preferred pronouns so as to not offend and then apply that rule in writing on a message board the person will never see.My objection to calling someone "they" is grammatical. Ironically, I blew that in my own post quoted above. Should have been "I'll call someone whatever he wants..." "Someone" is singular, calling for "he", not "they". All this woke language shit even catches grammar Nazis like me on occasion.
They has been an acceptable singular pronoun for centuries. Shakespeare used it.
It’s not what we’ve been taught, it’s not how we commonly use that pronoun, and it’s imprecise. It’s nothing but a lie to say we were taught “they” can be singular in modern English. And I was a straight “A” kid. Using “they” as a singular pronoun adds ambiguity and confusion and it’s unnecessary. I have no problem using he or she, as the person prefers, but will never use they as a singular pronoun. This goes for my nephew who was formerly my niece, and my cousin who was a male until he went to PU, and now identifies as a woman. Neither gets a they or them from me and they (there are two of them, so they is correct) know it. If they are together, they will get a “they.”They has been an acceptable singular pronoun for centuries. Shakespeare used it.
You might have been taught wrong.It’s not what we’ve been taught, it’s not how we’re commonly used that pronoun and it’s imprecise. It’s nothing but a lie to say we were taught “they” can be singular in modern English. And I was a straight “A” kid. Using “they” as a singular pronoun adds ambiguity and confusion and it’s unnecessary. I have no problem using he or she, as the person prefers, but will never use they as a singular pronoun. This goes for my nephew who was formerly my niece, and my cousin who was a male until he went to PU, and now identifies as a woman. Neither gets a they or them from me and they (there are two of them, so they is correct) know it. If they are together, they will get a “they.”
Imagine a sniper given the order to take out a terrorist leader with a precise shot even if within the vicinity of others. If the order says, “Kill Mr. Terrorist. Mr. Terrrorist likes to travel in convoys of women and children and if you can kill Mr. Terrorist you are to kill them.” The sniper better have a lot of rounds to carry out that order.
Great example. Confusion is the test, not what you were taught.It’s not what we’ve been taught, it’s not how we’re commonly used that pronoun and it’s imprecise. It’s nothing but a lie to say we were taught “they” can be singular in modern English. And I was a straight “A” kid. Using “they” as a singular pronoun adds ambiguity and confusion and it’s unnecessary. I have no problem using he or she, as the person prefers, but will never use they as a singular pronoun. This goes for my nephew who was formerly my niece, and my cousin who was a male until he went to PU, and now identifies as a woman. Neither gets a they or them from me and they (there are two of them, so they is correct) know it. If they are together, they will get a “they.”
Imagine a sniper given the order to take out a terrorist leader with a precise shot even if within the vicinity of others. If the order says, “Kill Mr. Terrorist. Mr. Terrrorist likes to travel in convoys of women and children and if you can kill Mr. Terrorist you are to kill them.” The sniper better have a lot of rounds to carry out that order.
We went over this a year ago. I gave examples of several posters using the singular they. The key was always that they used it in a way that made sense in context and could be understood. They didn't even realize they were doing it, in fact.Great example. Confusion is the test, not what you were taught.
You leave mcm out of this! They hate it.We went over this a year ago. I have examples of several posters using the singular they. The key was always that they used it in a way that made sense in context and could be understood. They didn't even realize they were doing it, in fact.
So I’ve been taught wrong from elementary school through undergrad and post graduate school (two masters) and war college? I think not. “They” is plural. If we want to play this silly word game, what’s the plural of “they?”You might have been taught wrong.
Were you taught not to start a sentence with a conjunction? Not to end one with a preposition? I was. And my teacher was great. But she was wrong.
Yes, you've been taught wrong. Most of us were. They is both singular and plural, just like you.So I’ve been taught wrong from elementary school through undergrad and post graduate school (two masters) and war college? I think not. “They” is plural. If we want to play this silly word game, what’s the plural of “they?”
This is accurate @Aloha Hoosier very oddYes, you've been taught wrong. Most of us were. They is both singular and plural, just like you.
The confusion comes from forcing a singular “they” on a society that has always used it as a plural pronoun. Preferred pronouns of he and she for trans men and women is OK and makes sense. A preferred pronoun of a singular “they” is a step too far and just angers others, all for some tiny fraction of people that have decided to force this on society and the larger portion of liberals that want to perpetually upset societal norms. Screw them. This guy isn’t going to play that silly game.Great example. Confusion is the test, not what you were taught.
You is an example where many understand it’s a singular and can be plural. However, it’s also why “you all,” “y’all,” “you guys,” and “youz” (sp) are so often used to remove ambiguity, right?Yes, you've been taught wrong. Most of us were. They is both singular and plural, just like you.
Who the hell speaks or writes like Shakespeare today? If I decided to speak like Shakespeare at the next family Thanksgiving gathering, I’d be sent to get a mental health assessment. Not that they don’t have reasons to do that already.They has been an acceptable singular pronoun for centuries. Shakespeare used it.
I agree with your edit.We went over this a year ago. I gave examples of several posters using the singular they. The key was always that they used it in a way that made sense in context and could be understood. They didn't even realize they were doing it, in fact.
Edit: that said, normal use of singular they is for indeterminate gender. Someone with a gender demanding use of they/them is a bit much.
Funny when we did this a year ago CO.H pointed out that some southerners use "they all." So yes, sometimes you need to remove ambiguity. And should whenever necessary.You is an example where many understand it’s a singular and can be plural. However, it’s also why “you all,” “y’all,” “you guys,” and “youz” (sp) are so often used to remove ambiguity, right?
“Where da fvck I be?”Who the hell speaks or writes like Shakespeare today? If I decided to speak like Shakespeare at the next family Thanksgiving gathering, I’d be sent to get a mental health assessment. Not that they don’t have reasons to do that already.
Yes, you've been taught wrong. Most of us were. They is both singular and plural, just like you.
Pics?Blow it out your ass, Goat. Mrs. Bridgewater would hit you with her ruler if she had the chance. And that would be her ruler, not their ruler.
I wonder what kind of dog they have? I love dogs.
There's only one person in that video.I wonder what kind of dog they have? I love dogs.
So she's homeless (but has a cellphone and a data plan to post on TikTok) and is angry at someone calling to offer her a job? Is that what is going on here?