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He’s gone. NBA doesn’t draft on what you are today. They project you at 23-24. One bad night won’t change anythingThat's why he will be back next year. Inconsistent play.
We're talking about NBA point guard, not Big Ten all-freshman.
Maybe. I do think he needs one more year.He’s gone. NBA doesn’t draft on what you are today. They project you at 23-24. One bad night won’t change anything
To be fair…JHS did 90+ percent of his damage against Morton and Newman. Both very, very good 6-5 perimeter defenders. Smith nor Loyer guarded JHS, basically at all in that game.deeper dive...he feasted against Purdue's small young, and moderately athletic (and that's being generous) guards. Perkins is a very physical guard with a ton of experience. We could not stay in front of him. Not quick enough, not strong enough. And with Murray lurking out on the 3 line...couldn't count on a wing to sag in the middle and help...when we tried, Murray killed us.
Be stunned if he is back right now he is a top 20 pick per draft boards.That's why he will be back next year. Inconsistent play.
We're talking about NBA point guard, not Big Ten all-freshman.
Unfortunately, he’s had more than one bad night where he doesn’t show up in the box score…. but he does have a lot of upsideHe’s gone. NBA doesn’t draft on what you are today. They project you at 23-24. One bad night won’t change anything
How many games has he dominated? Not many. He stays IMO, although you never know with the NBA.Maybe. I do think he needs one more year.
3.6/2.9 assist/turnover in conference and in general not a lot of steals.
Newman gave JHS some trouble. Morton has no business starting for a P5 team. Even the tools over at GBI want him run out of town. He is not a high level athlete.To be fair…JHS did 90+ percent of his damage against Morton and Newman. Both very, very good 6-5 perimeter defenders. Smith nor Loyer guarded JHS, basically at all in that game.
But he is a good defender, and he's tall and relatively long. And he's not one of their freshman guards, which was the point of the response.Newman gave JHS some trouble. Morton has no business starting for a P5 team. Even the tools over at GBI want him run out of town. He is not a high level athlete.
Hes a very streaky player. Some players are like that.He just doesn't.
He cherry picks his games and opponents.
And then Hood-Schifino takes the next game off.
How many "first round NBA players" do that while still in college? Hood-Schifino has done that a couple times earlier this year.
There's not a single freshman in college basketball this year with the exception of maybe Brandon Miller who hasn't shown inconsistency throughout the year and there will be 10-15 of them drafted in the first 20 picks. The NBA literally does not care about any of that. They draft on talent and upside ie potential. Hood-Schifino's ceiling is massive.Hood-Schifino is probably going to the NBA but he could really use more college time. He needs to learn to bring it every night if he wants to make a splash in the NBA. Other wise he better get used to moving around to different teams every couple of years and coming off the bench in relief....just an opinion.
If they were watching last night they saw he wasn't too effective on the defensive side of the ball.He's a freshman. I doubt he cherry picks which games he wants to play well in. Still learning how to produce consistently at this level. NBA drafts on potential not just after he's got everything figured out. Be cool if he stays another year but if he is likely to get drafted high it's in his best interests to go.
His inconsistency will obviously be something the GM's will all consider. But as Coach Geez has mentioned, outside the top couple picks, the NBA draft ends up being bets on potential, as much as anything. What is this kid gonna provide now, but usually more importantly, what will this kid grow in to in a few years. Making an NBA roster, full time, is one of the most competitive professions in the world. Nearly all NBA teams are "set" with quality players at each position. Multiple quality players for the better teams.If they were watching last night they saw he wasn't too effective on the defensive side of the ball.
Yep. He won’t face junk defenses either. That game highlighted some of what he will face.His inconsistency will obviously be something the GM's will all consider. But as Coach Geez has mentioned, outside the top couple picks, the NBA draft ends up being bets on potential, as much as anything. What is this kid gonna provide now, but usually more importantly, what will this kid grow in to in a few years. Making an NBA roster, full time, is one of the most competitive professions in the world. Nearly all NBA teams are "set" with quality players at each position. Multiple quality players for the better teams.
I don't think JHS will end up sticking as a PG in the NBA. I think he's going to become a physical, defensive minded guard, that can also shoot and score points. Austin Rivers type of player maybe? Capable of running the point if needed, but probably won't be used that way by most NBA teams. The good news for JHS though, is the NBA is valuing versatile wing players, that can shoot, right now, above all else.
His efforts like yesterday aren't doing him any favors, but I don't think they're probably hurting him as much as some think. The tape of what he did at Purdue carries a TON more weight than last nights tape does.
If they're looking for a defensive-minded guard there wasn't much to see last night. You'd want to see that he draws our tough assignments. That's not the case.His inconsistency will obviously be something the GM's will all consider. But as Coach Geez has mentioned, outside the top couple picks, the NBA draft ends up being bets on potential, as much as anything. What is this kid gonna provide now, but usually more importantly, what will this kid grow in to in a few years. Making an NBA roster, full time, is one of the most competitive professions in the world. Nearly all NBA teams are "set" with quality players at each position. Multiple quality players for the better teams.
I don't think JHS will end up sticking as a PG in the NBA. I think he's going to become a physical, defensive minded guard, that can also shoot and score points. Austin Rivers type of player maybe? Capable of running the point if needed, but probably won't be used that way by most NBA teams. The good news for JHS though, is the NBA is valuing versatile wing players, that can shoot, right now, above all else.
His efforts like yesterday aren't doing him any favors, but I don't think they're probably hurting him as much as some think. The tape of what he did at Purdue carries a TON more weight than last nights tape does.
There's not a single freshman in college basketball this year with the exception of maybe Brandon Miller who hasn't shown inconsistency throughout the year and there will be 10-15 of them drafted in the first 20 picks. The NBA literally does not care about any of that. They draft on talent and upside ie potential. Hood-Schifino's ceiling is massive.
His inconsistency will obviously be something the GM's will all consider. But as Coach Geez has mentioned, outside the top couple picks, the NBA draft ends up being bets on potential, as much as anything. What is this kid gonna provide now, but usually more importantly, what will this kid grow in to in a few years. Making an NBA roster, full time, is one of the most competitive professions in the world. Nearly all NBA teams are "set" with quality players at each position. Multiple quality players for the better teams.
I don't think JHS will end up sticking as a PG in the NBA. I think he's going to become a physical, defensive minded guard, that can also shoot and score points. Austin Rivers type of player maybe? Capable of running the point if needed, but probably won't be used that way by most NBA teams. The good news for JHS though, is the NBA is valuing versatile wing players, that can shoot, right now, above all else.
His efforts like yesterday aren't doing him any favors, but I don't think they're probably hurting him as much as some think. The tape of what he did at Purdue carries a TON more weight than last nights tape does.
Agree....and projecting somebody in a role that much different than what they did in college carries some risk. See Romeo.If they're looking for a defensive-minded guard there wasn't much to see last night. You'd want to see that he draws our tough assignments. That's not the case.
Yes, massive. He's a big bodied guard who can score at all 3 levels and can play both guard positions. He's a top 20 pick for a reason despite not putting up major numbers in college ball.Massive?
Doesn't he have trouble finishing at the rim? Didn't he have several shots blocked under the basket last night? He's not "explosive" in terms of the NBA. He's not ultra-quick. Doesn't he get regularly beat on D off the dribble? Is he a knock-down NBA 3 point shooter?
He is pretty darn good off the pick and roll.
Not saying he won't be an NBA regular. I do think there are some questions about him going forward.
One more year of going to class or one more year focusing on basketball in the nba?Maybe. I do think he needs one more year.
3.6/2.9 assist/turnover in conference and in general not a lot of steals.
What level is scoring right underneath the basket, because he couldn't do that last night.Yes, massive. He's a big bodied guard who can score at all 3 levels and can play both guard positions. He's a top 20 pick for a reason despite not putting up major numbers in college ball.
Extrapolating one game is something NBA scouts and executives aren't going to do. He has shown the ability over the course of the year to score from all levels of the court and do it in a variety of ways. He's a phenomenal shooter off the bounce and can use his size to create separation and shoot from the mid-range, two extremely valued traits in the NBA.What level is scoring right underneath the basket, because he couldn't do that last night.
And, imo, he's not that great at finishing at the rim. Not very crafty.
He is listed as a lottery pick and will not be back.He just doesn't.
He cherry picks his games and opponents.
And then Hood-Schifino takes the next game off.
How many "first round NBA players" do that while still in college? Hood-Schifino has done that a couple times earlier this year.
Phenomenal is way over the top . He will be a career first guy off the bench/fill in for injured starter player and make a lot of money and I don't blame himExtrapolating one game is something NBA scouts and executives aren't going to do. He has shown the ability over the course of the year to score from all levels of the court and do it in a variety of ways. He's a phenomenal shooter off the bounce and can use his size to create separation and shoot from the mid-range, two extremely valued traits in the NBA.
I agree with you. I see him as heady; a very good, but not exceptional, 3 pt shooter; a very good stop & pop guy, esp. off the pick & roll, with average college PG quickness, good thick build, decent vision/passing; not especially explosive or flexible, and not particularly good at finishing at the rim. I would add unflappable, but not passionate.Phenomenal is way over the top . He will be a career first guy off the bench/fill in for injured starter player and make a lot of money and I don't blame him
Most probably, but I've seen him listed at 13; 18; 19; not in top 30; and not in top 60 on 5 different lists.He is listed as a lottery pick and will not be back.
But the most recent ones have him in the top 20. 1% chance he comes back imo.Most probably, but I've seen him listed at 13; 18; 19; not in top 30; and not in top 60 on 5 different lists.
He doesn’t look quick because he’s 6’6” and long. He just needs work on his footwork and angles. He’s got the athleticism to make it once he gets more experience.Fino lacks quickness. He can’t defend quick guards (all NBA guards fit that category). I am not sure how the NBA will solve that issue.
Offensively he is a stud
He gets beat off the dribble by almost every pg in the B1G! It’s not footwork & angles - it’s quickness. Also most of the pg’s in NBA will be close to his sizeHe doesn’t look quick because he’s 6’6” and long. He just needs work on his footwork and angles. He’s got the athleticism to make it once he gets more experience.