ADVERTISEMENT

Harris vs. Trump 2024

Here's what you're missing. This should be a f*cking gimme. Americans are facing a once-in-a-lifetime cost of living crisis while also dealing with an overflow of confusing, different, uncomfortable immigrants and at the same time trying to understand a shift to the weird in social and gender issues that most Americans are just not going to be able to follow. If there was ever an election for a Republican to win all 50 states, this was it. This should be a f*cking landslide.

But it won't be. You'll be forced to cheer and dance over a D+ biased pollster who only has Harris +2, because you and your idiots took the golden goose, flushed it down the f*cking toilet, and said, "Gimme Trump again!"

If Trump wins, whatever. End of story. But if Harris wins, know this: Literally every other Republican not named Donald Trump would have beat her. The only reason she is in this thing is because you nominated the only candidate capable of losing to her.

Actually, both parties are running the only possible candidates who could possibly lose to the other. It's as if I set up a humidifier and a dehumidifier in the same room just to watch them battle it out.
 
I'm not sure she understands that Maricopa Co is primarily Pubs to begin with. The reason Biden and Hobbs/ Kelly won in 2020 and 2022 respectively is because lots of those Registered Republicans voted for them. There are also a pretty large number of unaffiliated voters who will likely vote Gallego, but may or may not ticket split and vote Trump. The abortion measure will motivate voters as well...

You will remember that all of those stories describing election denialism and threats against election workers and officials basically described GOP on GOP attacks. That's because the majority of election and county officials in Maricopa are Republican. It's a Republican county...
There is no logical thought put into their theories. Trump said he lost because of voter fraud, so by God, he lost due to voter fraud. Make up “facts” to support that notion. That’s all there is to it. To get around inconvenient facts like Republican involvement and finding no voter fraud - they’re just Never-Trump RINOs. The country is full of Trump loving MAGAs, RINOs and Libtards (Libbies, Progressives, Dims, Marxists, etc.) and only the MAGAs are good - the others are evil.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: cosmickid
Here's what you're missing. This should be a f*cking gimme. Americans are facing a once-in-a-lifetime cost of living crisis while also dealing with an overflow of confusing, different, uncomfortable immigrants and at the same time trying to understand a shift to the weird in social and gender issues that most Americans are just not going to be able to follow. If there was ever an election for a Republican to win all 50 states, this was it. This should be a f*cking landslide.

But it won't be. You'll be forced to cheer and dance over a D+ biased pollster who only has Harris +2, because you and your idiots took the golden goose, flushed it down the f*cking toilet, and said, "Gimme Trump again!"

If Trump wins, whatever. End of story. But if Harris wins, know this: Literally every other Republican not named Donald Trump would have beat her. The only reason she is in this thing is because you nominated the only candidate capable of losing to her.
Concur. There’s just something about Trump that excites a significant minority of the GOP and they vote in primaries.
 
Dude you're not bothered by Trump defrauding thousands of people via Trump U, stealing money from childrens charities, and being adjudicated by two juries and a judge of being liable for sexual assault? And yet you expect us to believe (supposedly) plagiarized words off of wikipedia is suddenly a game changer? The only people upset by the latter and not bothered by the former are people who were already voting Trump...


The media is awful
 
Mark Halperin, the guy who broke the story about Biden getting out, said this morning that Kamala's plagiarism story was just the tip of the iceberg. That you can be VP for 4 years, a Senator, and an AG and still have lots of skeletons in the closet. 🍿
If only there was a ton of disqualifying dirt on Trump out there . . .
 
Mark Halperin, the guy who broke the story about Biden getting out, said this morning that Kamala's plagiarism story was just the tip of the iceberg. That you can be VP for 4 years, a Senator, and an AG and still have lots of skeletons in the closet. 🍿
I watch Halperin on 2 way every morning and then his wrap up at 5 in the afternoon. The experts he brings on with him are Sean (lie about the inauguration) Spicer and some goofy looking Dem (Dan) I've never heard of who can best be described as milquetoast. My theory is that Halperin tries to stick it to the mainstream media every chance he gets because he's angry over the sexual harrassment allegations that prompted his fall from grace...

Spicer is actually connected to Trump's campaign and imho is an idiot. He makes ridiculous claims regarding the state of the race based on phony polls, and Halperin just goes along without offering any pushback. In fact it's very rare for Halperin and Spicer to even disagree.

And he rare times they do almost disagree Halperin only makes a half hearted attempt at dissent and then basically agrees with Spicer.. And the Dem guy basically sits there with his toothy grin, nodding his head. Half the time instead of refuting one of Spicer's easily disprovable lies (like even I could do) he'll weigh in and basically offer his approval of the nonsense Spicer just spouted.,..,

Lately they've been on this "Trump is winning" "Dems are nervous" crusade without providing any solid evidence of why that would be. No discussion of early vote numbers that look very good for Harris, just polls that are cooked just like they were in 2022. For some reason Halperin never seems to have a legit Dem analyst on, someone like Simon Rosenberg who is keyed into the campaign, and could offer some actual insight.

How exactly does Halperin get credit for breaking the Biden story? Harris only found out on Sunday when she was having dinner with family and Biden called. Are you saying Biden told Halperin before he told Kamala? Or did Mark just make a prediction that happened to come true?
 
"We love our Muslims. We have the best Muslims. No country on Earth has better Muslims than we have right here."


If you watch any analyst talk about "junk polls" the 3 you listed are inevitably at the top of the list.They were also some of the main culprits in 2022 pushing the phony "Red Wave" nonsense. You were even posting them here nearly every day...
 
I've already said my piece on Halperin, and having Tuck Tuck claim Halperin has the "best sources in the business" is certainly not,imho a ringing endorsement. He actually had a consultant on this evening who I thought presented a cogent argument.

I only see the youtube clips they release, so I didn't catch her full name. She's a former Republican operative turned Independent who worked for people like Pete Wilson,Christy Todd Whitman,and Romney and provided a great insight as to why she left the GOP in the era of Trump. More invited guests with that insight and integrity and I might modify my position on Halperin's role as a "neutral observer"...

Meanwhile I found this very interesting and feel like I learned a lot...

 
Changing journalistic culture is more important, I think. The NYT continues to self inflict damage to its credibility. Sad.
Again, fair. But my point was that there's no reason for this to be a big story, and my point stands. No one cares. The NYT should care, and it's embarrassing that they don't, but the fact is no one else does care, and there are good reasons for that.
 
Are you that confident that Trump is going to lose, Aloha?

I’m not. And I don’t think there’s much cause to be confident of that.
Nope. I'd bet big money that he'll lose the popular vote, but he could win the EC. His ceiling nation-wide is around 46 percent, but some of the battle ground states could go his way. People forget that he was a deeply unpopular President even before COVID. He'll be an extremely unpopular President again. His Presidency will add even more division to the country. He must be purged and it's not a sure thing that he will be.
 
Of course. The NYT deserves all the heat it gets here. I'm just saying, don't expect this to change any votes. No one cares what's in a book that Harris probably didn't even write, anyway.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it’s appropriate to view pretty much every major news organization as being propaganda organs for one or the other parties.

They all claim objectivity in their news coverage. But only a fool would truly believe that. To the extent they ever do anything counter to their narrative, it’s almost always cursory.

IMO, the closest thing we have to a media outlet that is actually objective is C-Span…because they mostly just let the cameras roll without commentary.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: mcmurtry66
Nope. I'd bet big money that he'll lose the popular vote, but he could win the EC. His ceiling nation-wide is around 46 percent, but some of the battle ground states could go his way. People forget that he was a deeply unpopular President even before COVID. He'll be an extremely unpopular President again. His Presidency will add even more division to the country. He must be purged and it's not a sure thing that he will be.
Oh, it’s very likely that he’ll lose the popular vote.

A Dem candidate should expect to win big solid Blue states by roughly 6-7 million more votes than a GOP candidate should expect to win big solid Red states.

Biden 2020 won his 5 biggest margin states (CA, NY, MA, IL, WA) by a total of 10.3m votes. Trump 2020 won his 5 biggest margin states (TN, TX, AL, KY, OK) by just 3m votes.

But, obviously, any state’s margin has no bearing on the distribution of EVs. A Dem gets the same number of EVs from CA if they win it by 5 hundred
votes or 5 million.
 


This sounds like a threat to with hold military aid.

Predicated on Israel calibrating it's actions in a manner would help Biden/ Harris in the election.

Citing two officials familiar with the matter, the Washington Post said Netanyahu had told the Biden administration that he was willing to strike military rather than oil or nuclear facilities in Iran, suggesting a more limited counterstrike aimed at preventing a full-scale war.
The retaliatory action would be calibrated to avoid the perception of "political interference in the U.S. elections," the Washington Post quoted one official as saying.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT