True.
I don’t think Joe, Don, or Kamala are legit Christians beyond what they act like for political reasons.
I take exception to the idea that x isn’t really a Christian if he or she votes for y.
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True.
I take exception to the idea that x isn’t really a Christian if he or she votes for y.
An interesting euphemism for swath of ant-semites that make up our voting base.
You talking about that group of a dozen or so guys in khakis that pop up once in a while? Nashville, Charlottesville, etc?
Yeah, doesn’t much compare to the thousands maybe millions of rabid progressives who have been terrorizing campuses and cities since October.
Then there’s Shapiro, governor of a battleground state:
Shapiro signed his second state budget this month and for the second straight year failed to keep his signature promise to enact scholarships for low income students in failing schools. 87% of black families in Pennsylvania supported and expected this. The guy has shown almost no ability to get anything done and unable to even work with fellow democrats in the legislature. He’s one of 10 governors who face a legislature controlled in part by the other party and all other 9 have all signed more laws through bipartisan efforts since 2023 than Shapiro.
You’re an idiot. That’s why you like Beshear. I live in KY but I’m from Indiana and can’t stand that jackass. The only reason he’s in office is because of stupid ass teachers union and their corrupt bullshit.
That’s all you have. I guess that college education you have doesn’t amount to much.
There is almost no way this ends well for Vance. If Trump loses in November Vance is toast. He can’t just flip on him again, which is what he’d have to do to continue his political career. He certainly won’t be able to defend him as Trump’s criminal trials progress.
And if Trump wins, how likely is it that Trump doesn’t eventually throw him under the bus? Look at all the people from his first administration who hate him and say he’s unfit for office.
I suppose the only thing left for him will be to write another book about the shitshow.
I prefer Kelly. Retired Navy O6 and astronaut with some leadership experience, and a conservative leaning Democrat. He adds to the ticket.
Trump loses and the Trump stank will end Vance’s political career. He’d be toast.
Look beneath the hood on these supposed moderate democrats (Kelly/Beshear/ Shapiro) and you might not like what you find.
Persona, demeanor and a carefully crafted public image is one thing. What they actually believe? What they’re willing to put pen to paper on? Well that’s quite another…
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When your candidates move so far right that everyone else looks progressive lol
That’s not to say there are no moderate Democrats. There is of course Sinema who was forced to change party affiliation and Manchin who was forced into retirement.
Your party can be quite hostile to those who do not toe the line.
Obama-lite ran as a vehement supporter of school choice, when his Republican legislature put a school choice bill on his desk, he vetoed it. Teachers unions got to him.
Fancy boy southern gentry doesn’t do anything. At all. Every important piece of legislation is an override of his veto by a super majority legislature.
Moon man is a down the line progressive who will sometimes talk tough on the border. Of course he was a Nay on HR2. And he wants to take your semi-auto rifle because of the tragic incident with his wife.
He sat down at a bar for a college football Saturday to drink Coors Light. Democract’s can try and make him the weirdo all you want.
You guys are the weirdos.
Dem server. Told him his card is declined
@Noodle should be back just in time for your morning commute
This Democrat ploy to cast Vance as “Weird” is one of the more irksome things I’ve seen in American politics.
“Hey Walz, who did Indiana play yesterday? Did they win? Who the play?”
That’s something a common man could answer. This paper mache football coach could not. I’m not sure Vance could answer it either but at least he’s not playing a character like Walz.
Vance grows on you. Read the book. If all of America read the book the country would be infinitely better.
Walz could not write a book about anything other than nonsense.
I have. Vance is an incredibly bright guy. Walz is a goofy impressionable social worker teacher from Chadon st. Vance is still strange
Im voting Trump because I believe Trump is kind of cashed out. I think he also knows he’s cashed out.
Let Vance run the government. Without the PR. Maybe I’m being hopeful.
Vance is by far the best of the three. I too think trump is cashed out. It’s a lot. He’s been through a lot. He’s old.
I’ll add that I think trump knows it’s over and is getting frustrated. That Taylor swift tweet was incredibly stupid. He needed Biden
I have a hard undertandong how a devout christian could support either......TBH.
Being a christian doesnt mean life is empty of sin. People who believe this are ignorant.
Lots of faux christians, seasonal believers and chreasters on this board. Please remember there’s only one person on this board who provides spiritual guidance to a community. And when you speculate as to how as you did in your post, remember how they treat him on this board - a man of the cloth who appreciates the simple things, candy corn, and devotes his life to the service of others
I jsut think using faith as a proponent to voting, is showing extreme ignorance. I also feel using as a propeller to get elected, is wrong.
I dont care if Kamala is a christian....nor do I care if Trump is. It has no bearing on how I vote. People who think this way, often make the wrong decision.
He’s very foolish though for continuing to perpetuate the false claims about Haitians and now Africans, as it relates to eating pets. The mayor of Springfield, the mayor of Dayton (new falsehoods about Africans eating pets), the police forces in the two cities, and governor DeWine, all say there is no evidence. On the Sunday morning programs today he’s still claiming it to be true. This can only serve to foster the stereotype that the right is filled with people that believe in false information and conspiracies. And I’m sure the Harris campaign will have ads asking Americans if we really want our leaders giving out misinformation that seems, well, crazy and a bit WEIRD! What’s wrong with you people?
Whether they’re eating pets or not is immaterial. They probably are. Maybe they aren’t. Inconclusive.
What is material is dropping 10’s of thousands of 3rd world refugees in the Midwest and destroying Americans lives.
Stop apologizing for it you sick ****.
Have you ever been to Springfield?
And for what it's worth, Haitian immigrants in Springfield are there legally and weren't dropped there. They came for jobs. And yes, there are growing pains and there have been issues flare up, but for the most part the influx of population has helped reignite a dying town. Springfield has been steadily losing population since the 1980s when the Navistar plant started sending tons of jobs overseas. I'll always have an affinity for the place since I was born and raised there, but it was far from the 'beautiful place' Trump has suggested it was prior to the Haitian community moving there.
There are definitely frustrations in the city with such a huge amount of growth coming from a different country/culture, but in the long run I think Springfield will be just fine. And anecdotally speaking, I don't know anyone in Springfield whose life has been ruined because Haitians moved there. I do know people who have been shot, gone to jail, got messed up on drugs, and started collecting welfare, but that all happened long before any of those people knew anyone from Haiti.
