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I don't even think we're outspending everyone. Look at AR's roster... I'm guessing they probably spent more in NIL this year than us. You know UConn is paying as is Duke and UNC. I would guess we're top 5, but I think AR is probably tops. I do think we're tops in the B10, but even there I would guess UM, and IL aren't terribly far behind, and Rutgers too with those 2 stud freshmen, I would guess would put them in 3-4th. I just don't see us separating like you described unless we're seeing markedly better results than other schools.
Yup. Cal wouldn’t have went there unless beaucoup NIL available.
 
I don't even think we're outspending everyone. Look at AR's roster... I'm guessing they probably spent more in NIL this year than us. You know UConn is paying as is Duke and UNC. I would guess we're top 5, but I think AR is probably tops. I do think we're tops in the B10, but even there I would guess UM, and IL aren't terribly far behind, and Rutgers too with those 2 stud freshmen, I would guess would put them in 3-4th. I just don't see us separating like you described unless we're seeing markedly better results than other schools.
It’s very hard to know. There are good reports we have top-5 NIL resources for basketball. Exactly where we rank and how we spend it we’ll never know. We call Cook and Simon and Cal calls Tyson.

To me it just means we are one of the big boys in NIL and we have an advantage over many schools. That’s great. Still have to get the right players and coach em up of course.
 
The thing with ND is they have more overall money, for whatever they feel like using it for, than most any other school. They have more money than IU does in their couch cushions. Now, will they ever choose to dip their toes in to those grey areas, rules wise, and use the Notre Dame money machine for basketball??? That's the billion dollar question. But we could be getting a potential answer to that question today. Their team would get quite a lot more expensive if Haralson picks them. As it won't just be the money that Haralson commands. Burton's money would need to be adjusted as well, I'm sure.
ND will never commit serious $$ to bball until they are back, regularly top 5-10, in the country in football, imo. That's what matters in South Bend.
 
ND will never commit serious $$ to bball until they are back, regularly top 5-10, in the country in football, imo. That's what matters in South Bend.

Sounds like they have their priorities in order then.
 
Sounds like they have their priorities in order then.
I have 0 ties to ND, just my read. The average ND fan might care less about bball than the average IU fan did about football in Allen's last year. Heck, I bet most ND fans nationally can't even name their bball coach.
 
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I have 0 ties to ND, just my read. The average ND fan might care less about bball than the average IU fan did about football in Allen's last year. Heck, I bet most ND fans nationally can't even name their bball coach.

Won't argue with that.

I'm just saying football should always be #1. A healthy football program will trickle down to other programs in an athletic program.

It seems like Indiana people are finally starting to figure that out.
 
Won't argue with that.

I'm just saying football should always be #1. A healthy football program will trickle down to other programs in an athletic program.

It seems like Indiana people are finally starting to figure that out.
Hope so. It's a crime if our fb game isn't a sellout Saturday.
 
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I have 0 ties to ND, just my read. The average ND fan might care less about bball than the average IU fan did about football in Allen's last year. Heck, I bet most ND fans nationally can't even name their bball coach.
I'm not sure about now, but in the early 90s I moved to SB and bought season tix within 20 rows of the court. It blew me away that I could walk up to the ticket office and buy them, let alone be that close.
 
I'm not sure about now, but in the early 90s I moved to SB and bought season tix within 20 rows of the court. It blew me away that I could walk up to the ticket office and buy them, let alone be that close.
Mid 90s...used to go to most games with a number of my HS teammates. We'd get cheap bleacher seat tickets, and just walk down courtside. Ushers got to know us, looked the other way. Sat courtside for Allen Iverson and GTown, Ray Allen and UConn, amongst others.

We walked in to the GTown locker room after their game. One of my teammates was 6-8, so everyone must have just assumed he was a recruit or something. Talked to John Thompson for about 5 minutes outside their lockerroom.

Lots of great memories of those games.
 
I used to show up for University of Houston games a few minutes before tip off and walk down to courtside against ranked teams. Same for Rockets games before first title. Not many people there and no cheerleaders. Quiet as a funeral home.
 
Mid 90s...used to go to most games with a number of my HS teammates. We'd get cheap bleacher seat tickets, and just walk down courtside. Ushers got to know us, looked the other way. Sat courtside for Allen Iverson and GTown, Ray Allen and UConn, amongst others.

We walked in to the GTown locker room after their game. One of my teammates was 6-8, so everyone must have just assumed he was a recruit or something. Talked to John Thompson for about 5 minutes outside their lockerroom.

Lots of great memories of those games.
It was a great place to watch mediocre basketball. ;)
 
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I have 0 ties to ND, just my read. The average ND fan might care less about bball than the average IU fan did about football in Allen's last year. Heck, I bet most ND fans nationally can't even name their bball coach.
it's Digger, right?
It was the last time ND bball really meant anything. Two words...Kelly Tripucka. ND all american who looked like a '70s porn star, mustache, caucasian fro'.....

recruitments like this used to be so important. With the portal and NIL, I'll take a 21 yr old with 2-3 yrs under his belt who knows the college game, college life, and hungry to get better and get on a draft board, over an 18 yr who only plans to be on campus for 7-8 months and knows he's scooping up a quick million before he leaves. I wish college basketball hadn't gone in this direction, but it did, and I have adjusted my thinking on the matter....imho....
 
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Just saw the Haralson recently started following Tom Loy on X. Loy is the 247 recruiting insider for ND.
 
Some pretty darn good opposing players in the Big East though at that time.
91-92 and 92-93, ND was still an independent. I saw Ellis play his senior season and then part of the following season before I moved. MacLoed had 3 NBA guys on that 91-92 team and barely finished over .500.
 
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Just saw the Haralson recently started following Tom Loy on X. Loy is the 247 recruiting insider for ND.
Someone on another forum said he'd started following IU bball in the last couple days too. Maybe he's/they're getting a kick out of keeping everyone guessing.
 
Someone on another forum said he'd started following IU bball in the last couple days too. Maybe he's/they're getting a kick out of keeping everyone guessing.
Yeah, don’t know if it means anything. Just pointing it out. Sounds like no one really knows.
 
Damon Sweet was good on that 91 team.
For sure, and I'm giving IUNorth a hard time with the mediocre basketball jab. I think I saw 5 or 6 top 10 teams come in there that season. I know they beat UCLA that year at home and that was a huge win. The Bruins were a top 5 team at the time.
 
For sure, and I'm giving IUNorth a hard time with the mediocre basketball jab. I think I saw 5 or 6 top 10 teams come in there that season. I know they beat UCLA that year at home and that was a huge win. The Bruins were a top 5 team at the time.
When was Rivers there? I thought they had a year where they had a really good big man along with him and were top 10? No? A lot of brain cells ago.
 
For sure, and I'm giving IUNorth a hard time with the mediocre basketball jab. I think I saw 5 or 6 top 10 teams come in there that season. I know they beat UCLA that year at home and that was a huge win. The Bruins were a top 5 team at the time.
The Notre Dame teams from Mid to late 90s were pretty mediocre. A few good players, but overall, nothing to write home about.
 
When was Rivers there? I thought they had a year where they had a really good big man along with him and were top 10? No? A lot of brain cells ago.
He's around our age. I think he played there in the mid to late 80s.
 
I broke down and looked up the schedule for the first season I was in the bend.


L @ #9 IU
L @ 17 Kentucky
W @ 23 USC
W #8 UNC
L #12 Mizzou
L @1 Duke
L #15 Meatchicken
W @10 Syracuse
W #2 UCLA
W #20 St Johns
L @ 15 Depaul

Better schedule than I remember
 
When was Rivers there? I thought they had a year where they had a really good big man along with him and were top 10? No? A lot of brain cells ago.
I think Rivers was mid 80s? I attended ND fball camp in summer 85 and saw him walking campus. Can't remember exactly when La-Fonz played there. He was a great player. Orlando Woolridge was my favorite.
 
For sure, and I'm giving IUNorth a hard time with the mediocre basketball jab. I think I saw 5 or 6 top 10 teams come in there that season. I know they beat UCLA that year at home and that was a huge win. The Bruins were a top 5 team at the time.
And they had a huge streak going on ( UCLA). I remember watching that game with my uncle.
 
I broke down and looked up the schedule for the first season I was in the bend.


L @ #9 IU
L @ 17 Kentucky
W @ 23 USC
W #8 UNC
L #12 Mizzou
L @1 Duke
L #15 Meatchicken
W @10 Syracuse
W #2 UCLA
W #20 St Johns
L @ 15 Depaul

Better schedule than I remember
Damn lol
 
just read on BTB that some last minute Carl Cook money may have made things interesting. Actually the wording is more positive than that, but who really knows for sure
I need to log off. I’ve been checking every 30 minutes for two days. Don’t know why, as we’ve reiterated, it’s not nearly as important with the portal these days. I wonder if he has three speeches ready to go.
 
I need to log off. I’ve been checking every 30 minutes for two days. Don’t know why, as we’ve reiterated, it’s not nearly as important with the portal these days. I wonder if he has three speeches ready to go.
For me it’s a couple things.

1) Jalen is really good. And I think he’ll fit in well with who we’ll likely have returning.

2) it’s a symbolic recruitment. Woody has been on him for a long time. He’s a high level kid. It’d be a bummer to miss out on him.

But in the end, it really isn’t nearly as big a deal as it would have been 5 years or more ago.
 
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