thx, I was exaggerating slightly for effect, but yeah, I definitely remember him proclaiming "It's Happening !!", then hearing we hired Miller a few days after.
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Perry is probably a better pure shooter. Shepherd is a better overall athlete and player.
Sleepers report said he'd made 100 straight FTs on 3 different days. Always said I'll never buy someone as a great shooter who doesn't make FTs at a very high rate. Get that FT% up there Trey!
With NIL, this stuff can change in the blink of an eye fellas. Blink. Of. An. Eye.
What's your source telling you this morning smitty?
What's your source telling you this morning smitty?
Recruiting isn't as life or death as it has been in the past. Makes it much easier to not get as worked up about this. We either get the Freshman to come in or we take that payroll and get the next Ware, Ballo, Rice, Carlyle, etc.
Yea. I’d like Haralson for a lot of reasons, but the portal guys with 1-2 years of experience and a few years of eligibility left seem like a sweet spot. They’re immediately productive and can still give us a few years for roster continuity.
Of course they have to fit, but I find most of the transfer reasons to be good and you’ve got to worry about fit with HS players too.
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I still think a squeaky wheel made noise yesterday and was given some oil fast to save the suspense.. I hope so at least.
He’s talking about the NIL stuff that Ryan Philips has been talking about. TYME is bashing it too. It about Haralson. Also the smoke to ND is coming from AAU circles back to ND. Nobody knows anything including Coyle.
Another indication no one knows it seems.
This is bizarre. I don't think anyone outside the family knows anything. It's impressive these days to keep everything locked down. I know there are other Btown folks here, but I can't find even a rumor in town.
Yeah, pre-NIL I always felt that you take anything you hear with a grain of salt. This applies to any source. It doesn’t matter if a coach is convinced of something, it doesn’t matter what is coming out of anyone’s mouth, even the mouth of the recruit.
Now, with NIL it’s even less relevant for obvious reasons.
The cynic in me says it should almost always come down to the deal with the highest bidder, especially if the money offered is dramatically different when compared to the other suitors.
Committing these days is often just end game strategy for upping NIL offers and decommitting but don’t expect that is the case for Indiana kids committing to IU.
I think NIL is a bigger factor for the guys who aren't 1 and done. They're not considered locks for the league and may never make it, so the more NIL they can accumulate, the better if they aren't "guaranteed" that NBA contract.
The 1 and done guys are trying to maximize their draft status
Perhaps….
But, when you are talking about the top 5 NIL teams will any of those not check the maximize draft status box?
That's the point I'm making. They're all going to be roughly in the same neighborhood with NIL. It's the situation and the coach that makes the decision for them. You're a knock down 3pt shooter as part of your sure fire, can't miss NBA profile. Are you coming here or are you going to Duke or whoever is running something that showcases your shooting? Woody puts bigs in the NBA, it appears. You're a rim protecting 5, do you go here or to some school who plays smaller with less emphasis on bigs?
I’m not sure they are all in the same neighborhood NIL - wise. This isn’t the pros. In the NFL a top cornerback makes in the neighborhood of other similar rated cornerbacks. Oh, maybe somewhat makes a little less, a little more… but college is different.
You could have one school pay 10 times what anyone else would pay.
I saw reports out there that we (IU boosters) were willing to pay double what the other top schools were offering. Nil and the portal has made things really, really bizarre.
I wouldn’t be surprised if someday we weren’t paying players 10 times what PU boosters pay, and 2-3 times more than the next highest conference team.
I thought we were talking about the top 5 NIL schools. I assume their NIL war chest is all in same ballpark and it's just a question of how they divvy it up.
MSU boosters claim they can match anything for a player they really want. The way Izzo has run things they may have a call girl service with all profits to NIL.
Well I was, but I am not going to assume that they all have a similar war chest. Since the money comes from boosters there could be big variations. Those variations can also switch from year to year.
Right now we are in a mode of outspend anyone else, but that doesn’t mean that the same scenario will be the case in 2 years.
Correct. Right now we have a few donors that have blank checks to woody. If we don’t win this year I would bet that changes.
Correct. I prefer the vulgar they could blow their wad on a player of their choosing.
Chests and wads….😑Correct. I prefer the vulgar they could blow their wad on a player of their choosing.
Sounds extreme. Markets will balance themselves and I don't see a school paying that much more across the entire roster... unless we were to pull a UCONN and win a couple NCs. Heck, I'm worried about us maintaining the current level of NIL funding if we have a disappointing year. I don't think donors will keep putting money in at a higher rate unless they are seeming results they are happy with. Think we need to win the B10 and make a 2nd weekend to keep them happy I would guess.
Perhaps, but it just takes 1 rich donor. If some billionaire wants to pay some kid $25 million he can.
Sounds like Phil Knight and Oregon.
We have some concentration risk with our two big donors. I don’t know what they expect or plan to do.
Gerd specifically said top 5 NIL schools. Can't imagine ND is top 5 NIL for hoops.
I don't even think we're outspending everyone. Look at AR's roster... I'm guessing they probably spent more in NIL this year than us. You know UConn is paying as is Duke and UNC. I would guess we're top 5, but I think AR is probably tops. I do think we're tops in the B10, but even there I would guess UM, and IL aren't terribly far behind, and Rutgers too with those 2 stud freshmen, I would guess would put them in 3-4th. I just don't see us separating like you described unless we're seeing markedly better results than other schools.
The thing with ND is they have more overall money, for whatever they feel like using it for, than most any other school. They have more money than IU does in their couch cushions. Now, will they ever choose to dip their toes in to those grey areas, rules wise, and use the Notre Dame money machine for basketball??? That's the billion dollar question. But we could be getting a potential answer to that question today. Their team would get quite a lot more expensive if Haralson picks them. As it won't just be the money that Haralson commands. Burton's money would need to be adjusted as well, I'm sure.
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