So how did Lindsay, Young and White do at their respective schools? Stats per year appreciated if you have access to them.
The only constant is your and others defense of modest standards of success. You guys are happy with S16's and first round BTT losses. The negativity you guys see is actually the high standard that some of us want.
IU Scott constantly tells people here what IU can't do or isn't capable of doing. That's a loser's mentality that you and he and the guy who claimed he worked at IU espouse. You're happy with less.
If he constantly tells people what IU is not capable of doing...how is he happy with less? If you hear a siren...its the logic police in your rear view mirror.....
You do remember how we waited to the last minute to get Priller and April. I think if you go back and look you will find people were not any happier then they are with the Gelon recruitment and we waited till all other options were exhausted!
He's lowering expectations by saying IU can't achieve at a high level. Not sure what you're talking about. Lol.
He is a realist and you are an idealist. Nothing wrong with either of you it is just who you are. You are not a loser simply because you are a realist. I want to win every contest I or my team are in but I realized a long time ago, through Professional Gambling activity, that you have to be able to accept losing to be able to win in the long run.
No he is being real about the current situation but that does not mean he does not want to see better in the future.
He's defined the limit of IU's capabilities, so he'll be happy with the limited successes IU achieves. He's happy with "good"'because "good" is all he thinks they're capable of. Some of us want and believe that "great" can be attained. He and others do not. That's the difference.
Scott has set a ceiling for IU. Many, many times he has criticized posters for wanting IU to be better than they have been..."we've never done that so we shouldn't expect it" is his common refrain
This is you : a person who represents things as they might or should be rather than as they are:
Scott thinks since we aren't elite we shouldn't aspire to be
I realize you need to concoct that explanation because it best fits your narrative, but you really don't have even a remotely accurate view of this. Scott has defined the ceiling, and he truly doesn't believe anything else can be accomplished. In his mind, if it's never been done or the occurrence has been rare, it can't be done. Others of us aspire to much higher levels of success. It's a completely different mentality that you obviously can't comprehend.
But you're the kind of guy who believes that 17 years with one fluke Final Four is an example f great coaching. Snicker.
I think if you had a nice conversation with IU Scott and actually listened to him you would find out I am right about his feelings. I am a realist myself but you are wrong about people like me not aspiring to much higher success levels. I know nothing about you or your life but I would put my level of success in life up against yours and feel confident that I would stack up very well.
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I love that you guys keep using this comparison it gives me a chance to compliment TC and show that I'm balanced in views
Of course we do because they are not the same viewpoint you have as an idealist. I believe the word for believing you are right and all others who think differently are wrong is arrogant.
I want to win championships as much as anyone and I have been alive for 3 of those championships. There is a difference from wanting and expecting them and to expect Iu to be like the other elite programs like UK or Duke is not realistic to me and you guys are going to be disappointed more times than not. I use to be like you guys where I use to let ever loss kill me and could not get over them and took it personally. I grew up and realized that the outcome of a game is not that important where I had to be negative all the time.
Wanting us to be elite is not negative but bitching and moaning every day is negative.
Yes!!!!
Where have we said we are content with sweet 16's but we just do't let an outcome of a game ruin our day or our prospective.
You obviously don't read Scott's posts
How has your bitching and moaning about the situation help the cause. We all want to be elite but some have some perspective on things and don't have to cry in our spilled milk every day showing our unhappiness. I am not happy just getting to the sweet 16 but there is nothing you or I can do about it so why be miserable about the situation.
You've accepted lower standards, as you outline in this post. That's fine, but many of us have both higher desires and expectations for the program than do you. Maybe, as you said, your settling is a product of your inability to put the results of losses into proper perspective, and part of your maturation process was simply to lower your expectations. Good for you. Most of us likely didn't have your problems, however so we weren't "forced" to address things as did you. Losses never killed me, nor did I ever take them personally, but I can see why such an issue would cause you to change so radically.
Like I said, he is a realist. He wants us to be better in the long run but will accept what is happening now. Maybe it is our age that makes us think this way since I too have been alive for those 3 championships. You get a lot of insight from watching the rise and fall of IU Basketball over 4 decades. You also get a lot of anguish!
Not sure why you're commenting . . . You've already said IU can't be elite. That's the negative and limiting attitude that you struggle with.
I never criticized anyone for wanting more since I want more as well but I criticized for the constant negativity that some of you show every day.
You're far and away the most negative poster here. Do you not compete in any athletics at your school or factory?
We should expire to be great but to expect something that has never happened is setting you up for disappointment. Of course things can and should be better and the only difference is that some are patient and some are not. Some of us can see things getting better and starting to see an upswing where others can't or don't want to see it.
I was hoping I was on your ignore list
