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Try getting yourself declared imperator totius hispaniae as the Viking descendant of Hasteinn surrounded by Catholic courtiers all trying to murder you.
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I once killed Drizzt - which was deemed impossible - by using multiple wands of chicken summoning, surrounding him with so many chickens he couldn't attack anything but chickens and then had everyone shooting bows at him... took about 20 minutes.

Since you mentioned it what's the name of that game again? I need something to play and that sounds perfect right now..
 
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I once killed Drizzt - which was deemed impossible - by using multiple wands of chicken summoning, surrounding him with so many chickens he couldn't attack anything but chickens and then had everyone shooting bows at him... took about 20 minutes.

Since you mentioned it what's the name of that game again? I need something to play and that sounds perfect right now..
Crusader Kings 3. But if you want to do a proper run in Spain, you gotta shell out for the Iberia-focused DLC, too. It's not as fun with just the base game.

The developers are all from Sweden, so the runs involving any of Ragnar's sons or other semi-mythical figures connected to them are the best experience. Other parts of the world are less fleshed out at this point.
 
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I don’t know what this means but I find it hilarious.
It most localities, it is illegal for restaurants to dump grease or oil down the drain, so grills are built with grease traps - large buckets, effectively - that you pull out and empty into a special dumpster, which you pay a special company to come empty out every few months. It's one of the grossest parts of any restaurant. She dumped my phone in it.

I didn't even do anything. It was only because she was crazy, I swear.
 
It most localities, it is illegal for restaurants to dump grease or oil down the drain, so grills are built with grease traps - large buckets, effectively - that you pull out and empty into a special dumpster, which you pay a special company to come empty out every few months. It's one of the grossest parts of any restaurant. She dumped my phone in it.

I didn't even do anything. It was only because she was crazy, I swear.
Hahahaha. Love it. I've been maced at close range. More miserable than any break, anything else. Just hell
 
Hahahaha. Love it. I've been maced at close range. More miserable than any break, anything else. Just hell
Girl was straight nuts. Slapped my face and my glasses flew across the room. Embarrassed herself and me in many bars. But there was something about her...probably all the conversations that started with, "So, you know what I heard could be hot?"
 
It most localities, it is illegal for restaurants to dump grease or oil down the drain, so grills are built with grease traps - large buckets, effectively - that you pull out and empty into a special dumpster, which you pay a special company to come empty out every few months. It's one of the grossest parts of any restaurant. She dumped my phone in it.

I didn't even do anything. It was only because she was crazy, I swear.
I’m sure you didn’t do anything and were totally blameless. No doubt in my mind.
 
Crusader Kings 3. But if you want to do a proper run in Spain, you gotta shell out for the Iberia-focused DLC, too. It's not as fun with just the base game.

The developers are all from Sweden, so the runs involving any of Ragnar's sons or other semi-mythical figures connected to them are the best experience. Other parts of the world are less fleshed out at this point.

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You have no idea what documents Trump had/has and whether they were classified or not.

Stop acting like you do.

As usual, you believe - and parrot - what the media is telling you.

You obviously don't believe in the US legal system, which says everyone is innocent until proven guilty. And he hasn't been charged with shit.

So shut your piehole about calling anyone a hypocrite.
Are you kidding? We know he had classified documents, to include TS/SCI. He shouldn’t have had them and they weren’t secured as they’re required to be secured. This is identical to the HRC situation except in quantity - Trump mishandled even more classified documents and they were clearly marked as well. It’s indefensible, yet you defend it. That’s pure hypocrisy. I honestly don’t understand the hold that Trump has over you. He doesn’t give two shits about you or the country. I don’t get it.
 
Are you kidding? We know he had classified documents, to include TS/SCI. He shouldn’t have had them and they weren’t secured as they’re required to be secured. This is identical to the HRC situation except in quantity - Trump mishandled even more classified documents and they were clearly marked as well. It’s indefensible, yet you defend it. That’s pure hypocrisy. I honestly don’t understand the hold that Trump has over you. He doesn’t give two shits about you or the country. I don’t get it.

Hypocrisy is rampant around here. I'd say it's the calling card on the WC....
 
Hahahaha. Love it. I've been maced at close range. More miserable than any break, anything else. Just hell

I came home once to all my clothes on the curb and when I went inside to ask WTF was going on, she called the police on me. It was my house, BTW. The police seemed quite confused, wished me luck and left...... For some reason I kept at it with her for like another 6 months.... Well, I know the reason.... but holy fk, what a crazy few years those were after that...
 
I came home once to all my clothes on the curb and when I went inside to ask WTF was going on, she called the police on me. It was my house, BTW. The police seemed quite confused, wished me luck and left...... For some reason I kept at it with her for like another 6 months.... Well, I know the reason.... but holy fk, what a crazy few years those were after that...
Ah. Christmas 1997.

 
I came home once to all my clothes on the curb and when I went inside to ask WTF was going on, she called the police on me. It was my house, BTW. The police seemed quite confused, wished me luck and left...... For some reason I kept at it with her for like another 6 months.... Well, I know the reason.... but holy fk, what a crazy few years those were after that...
 
Are you kidding? We know he had classified documents, to include TS/SCI. He shouldn’t have had them and they weren’t secured as they’re required to be secured. This is identical to the HRC situation except in quantity - Trump mishandled even more classified documents and they were clearly marked as well. It’s indefensible, yet you defend it. That’s pure hypocrisy. I honestly don’t understand the hold that Trump has over you. He doesn’t give two shits about you or the country. I don’t get it.
I haven't defended anything, except the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, which is a bedrock of the US judicial system. I guess that doesn't matter to you - you'd gladly destroy the legal system to drag Trump to prison.

Whether he should have had them or not is a matter for the courts, not the media. And you're a product of the media.

You calling anyone a hypocrite is laughable.
 
I haven't defended anything, except the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, which is a bedrock of the US judicial system. I guess that doesn't matter to you - you'd gladly destroy the legal system to drag Trump to prison.

Whether he should have had them or not is a matter for the courts, not the media. And you're a product of the media.

You calling anyone a hypocrite is laughable.
What was your stance on HRC? Did you presume she was innocent? If your answer for either question is different than they are for Trump, you’re a hypocrite.
 
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What was your stance on HRC? Did you presume she was innocent? If your answer for either question is different than they are for Trump, you’re a hypocrite.
My stance of HRC was that the DOJ should have pursued it more, based on known facts.

Did I think she was guilty? Yes. Did I say she should be barred from office or locked up without a trail? No, I didn't. And I based my opinion on the facts present by Comey and the FBI. You are relying on media reports that Trump didn't have a right to have those documents.

I also didn't complain when Bill Clinton hid classified documents in his sock drawer.


Again, you calling anyone else a hypocrite is laughable.
 
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My stance of HRC was that the DOJ should have pursued it more, based on known facts.

Did I think she was guilty? Yes. Did I say she should be barred from office or locked up without a trail? No, I didn't. And I based my opinion on the facts present by Comey and the FBI. You are relying on media reports that Trump didn't have a right to have those documents.

I also didn't complain when Bill Clinton hid classified documents in his sock drawer.


Again, you calling anyone else a hypocrite is laughable.
Uh no, I am not relying on media reports, I’m relying on my knowledge of the requirements for protecting classified information. Apparently, you don’t have much knowledge of the subject.

I also think HRC was likely guilty and that she should have been charged for a clear violation of the law due to gross negligence in handling classified information. The same facts, as we know them, apply to Trump so I also think he is likely guilty. I’m totally consistent and therefore not hypocritical. You aren’t so consistent.
 
Uh no, I am not relying on media reports, I’m relying on my knowledge of the requirements for protecting classified information. Apparently, you don’t have much knowledge of the subject.

I also think HRC was likely guilty and that she should have been charged for a clear violation of the law due to gross negligence in handling classified information. The same facts, as we know them, apply to Trump so I also think he is likely guilty. I’m totally consistent and therefore not hypocritical. You aren’t so consistent.
I held a Top Secret - Cryptological Clearance, so I know quite a bit about it.

I also know that you don't know whether or not Trump legally held those documents and I also know what was done to previous ex-Presidents who illegally held classified documents.

You also thought he was guilty of colluding with Russians and were proved wrong about that, so pardon me if I laugh at your presumptions. You've been on the wrong side for the last 6 years.

You're fooling no one with your biased opinion. You have selective outrage and you calling anyone out for hypocrisy is laughable.

Obama trucked millions of documents to Chicago and promised to work with the National Archives to digitize them - 6 years ago. Where is your outrage about those records being outside the National Archives?

 
Are you kidding? We know he had classified documents, to include TS/SCI. He shouldn’t have had them and they weren’t secured as they’re required to be secured. This is identical to the HRC situation except in quantity - Trump mishandled even more classified documents and they were clearly marked as well. It’s indefensible, yet you defend it. That’s pure hypocrisy. I honestly don’t understand the hold that Trump has over you. He doesn’t give two shits about you or the country. I don’t get it.
Except for one big difference, Hillarys were on an electronic device while she was in an active position vs old papers stored in a house in a gated residence. Hackers had no way to get to them. You think Hillary or Biden even give one shit about you or this country?
 
Except for one big difference, Hillarys were on an electronic device while she was in an active position vs old papers stored in a house in a gated residence. Hackers had no way to get to them. You think Hillary or Biden even give one shit about you or this country?
Another fact @Aloha Hoosier leaves out is that Hillary wasn't President.

Presidents have ultimate authority over classified documents - he likes to ignore that fact.
 
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I held a Top Secret - Cryptological Clearance, so I know quite a bit about it.

I also know that you don't know whether or not Trump legally held those documents and I also know what was done to previous ex-Presidents who illegally held classified documents.

You also thought he was guilty of colluding with Russians and were proved wrong about that, so pardon me if I laugh at your presumptions. You've been on the wrong side for the last 6 years.

You're fooling no one with your biased opinion. You have selective outrage and you calling anyone out for hypocrisy is laughable.

Obama trucked millions of documents to Chicago and promised to work with the National Archives to digitize them - 6 years ago. Where is your outrage about those records being outside the National Archives?

I still hold a TS clearance. How many years ago did you have one? Decades? In any event, your posts indicate that you aren’t current on requirements.

Paragraph two is irrelevant since there is no evidence that any President has mishandled classified documents in a similar manner.

Para 3 is totally false. While it’s clear, as reported by a Republican led Senate committee, that Russia interfered in the election with a misinformation campaign meant to assist Trump, I never said Trump colluded with the Russians in the process.

My opinion on mishandling classified information has been consistent for nearly 40 years. I’ve punished Sailors on a couple of occasions for it. My take on the HRC and Trump situations is entirely consistent - as it was with Petraeus. I had hoped for Petraeus running for President too. Your take isn’t consistent because you can’t bring yourself to criticize Trump for anything at all. You are so invested in him (Lord knows why because he’d rather piss in you than do anything for you) that you just aren’t capable of criticizing him for anything at all. It is fair to call you hypocritical.

Your last paragraph is also false - that story has been entirely debunked. Think, man. Escape the cult.
 
Except for one big difference, Hillarys were on an electronic device while she was in an active position vs old papers stored in a house in a gated residence. Hackers had no way to get to them. You think Hillary or Biden even give one shit about you or this country?
As much as I despise HRC and couldn’t, and didn’t vote for her, yes I think she cares more for the country than Trump. So does Biden. Of course I don’t agree wit much of what Biden has done, I don’t doubt his patriotism. Trump is clearly not a patriot IMO, he’s just duped some to believe he is. Trump cares about himself and just about everyone else can go to hell as far as he’s concerned.
 
Another fact @Aloha Hoosier leaves out is that Hillary wasn't President.

Presidents have ultimate authority over classified documents - he likes to ignore that fact.
No I don’t ignore it. First, he’s not President. Second, even the President can’t just waive his magic Presidential wand and say, “I hereby declare everything declassified. That’s not how the process works. You seem to want a King, not a President - as long as it is King Donald I.
 
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I still hold a TS clearance. How many years ago did you have one? Decades? In any event, your posts indicate that you aren’t current on requirements.

Paragraph two is irrelevant since there is no evidence that any President has mishandled classified documents in a similar manner.

Para 3 is totally false. While it’s clear, as reported by a Republican led Senate committee, that Russia interfered in the election with a misinformation campaign meant to assist Trump, I never said Trump colluded with the Russians in the process.

My opinion on mishandling classified information has been consistent for nearly 40 years. I’ve punished Sailors on a couple of occasions for it. My take on the HRC and Trump situations is entirely consistent - as it was with Petraeus. I had hoped for Petraeus running for President too. Your take isn’t consistent because you can’t bring yourself to criticize Trump for anything at all. You are so invested in him (Lord knows why because he’d rather piss in you than do anything for you) that you just aren’t capable of criticizing him for anything at all. It is fair to call you hypocritical.

Your last paragraph is also false - that story has been entirely debunked. Think, man. Escape the cult.
Debunked by liberal media only - which you believe without question.

Yeah, I held it a long time ago. Tell me what's changed since then.

Oh, you never believed in the Russian Collusion Hoax? That will be news to everyone here who has read your posts.

You're fooling no one. You are like the mob in the French revolution - accusations are the same as convictions to you.
 
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No I don’t ignore it. First, he’s not President. Second, even the President can’t just waive his magic Presidential wand and say, “I hereby declare everything declassified. That’s not how the process works. You seem to want a King, not a President - as long as it is King Donald I.
He was President and he declassified many documents before he wasn't.

You have no idea what information those documents contained, so don't claim you do.

You'd rather submit the country to 4 years of destruction rather than 4 years of mean tweets.
 
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He was President and he declassified many documents before he wasn't.

You have no idea what information those documents contained, so don't claim you do.

You'd rather submit the country to 4 years of destruction rather than 4 years of mean tweets and abject incompetence. FIFY
 
Except for one big difference, Hillarys were on an electronic device while she was in an active position vs old papers stored in a house in a gated residence. Hackers had no way to get to them. You think Hillary or Biden even give one shit about you or this country?
You think grifter Trump cared about this country? He wouldn't even bow out graciously when he lost. In fact, he had his loser followers attack our country
 
Debunked by liberal media only - which you believe without question.

Yeah, I held it a long time ago. Tell me what's changed since then.

Oh, you never believed in the Russian Collusion Hoax? That will be news to everyone here who has read your posts.

You're fooling no one. You are like the mob in the French revolution - accusations are the same as convictions to you.
Para 1 - nonsense.

Para 2 - there’s no evidence that you remember any requirements from whenever you held a clearance.

Para 3 - made up nonsense.

Para 4 - ridiculously false nonsense.
 
He was President and he declassified many documents before he wasn't.

You have no idea what information those documents contained, so don't claim you do.

You'd rather submit the country to 4 years of destruction rather than 4 years of mean tweets.
There is no evidence he declassified any of these. There is a process and a record required for declassification. Besides, it’s one of four or five ridiculously stupid and conflicting explanations provided by Trump. That’s the extent of your “evidence.” You apparently can’t see it, but Trump is a bigger liar than Bill Clinton, and he was a serial liar.

We don’t need to know what the documents contain - they’re classified. That’s the frickin’ point.

Claiming “mean tweets” as if it’s his only flaw is stupid. Super stupid.
 
Para 1 - nonsense.

Para 2 - there’s no evidence that you remember any requirements from whenever you held a clearance.

Para 3 - made up nonsense.

Para 4 - ridiculously false nonsense.
Sentence 1 - non-response because you have no argument

Sentence 2 - there have been no significant changes, so your argument I don't know the requirements is false. You got called on it and now you try to deflect.

Sentence 3 - non-response because you have no argument

Sentence 4 - non-response because you have no argument
 
There is no evidence he declassified any of these. There is a process and a record required for declassification. Besides, it’s one of four or five ridiculously stupid and conflicting explanations provided by Trump. That’s the extent of your “evidence.” You apparently can’t see it, but Trump is a bigger liar than Bill Clinton, and he was a serial liar.

We don’t need to know what the documents contain - they’re classified. That’s the frickin’ point.

Claiming “mean tweets” as if it’s his only flaw is stupid. Super stupid.
One point to make, he did not claim to declassify in January, nor in June when served a subpoena. One would think he wouldn't wait until the 3rd FBI visit to pull out the "I declassified everything" line.
 
There is no evidence he declassified any of these. There is a process and a record required for declassification. Besides, it’s one of four or five ridiculously stupid and conflicting explanations provided by Trump. That’s the extent of your “evidence.” You apparently can’t see it, but Trump is a bigger liar than Bill Clinton, and he was a serial liar.

We don’t need to know what the documents contain - they’re classified. That’s the frickin’ point.
Claiming “mean tweets” as if it’s his only flaw is stupid. Super stupid.
There's no evidence he didn't declassify them. You know so much - what document does he file with..... himself. He IS the Executive Branch.

You follow a process. He doesn't. Read the article I linked.

You're boring me with your repetition of the Democrat/media narrative. Your faux outrage at Trump for having any classified documents is laughable when I've given you instances of past Presidents who have done the same thing. Not to mention Sandy Berger and Hillary Clinton who got off scot-free when discovered with classified documents.
 
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