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It was. Again, we can debate WHY it was an emergency, but an emergency it certainly was.

I think Congress will find the money somewhere.
We don’t have money. All we have is credit.

Being overwhelmed with migrants is not the kind of emergency FEMA is intended to deal with. If that situation requires funds, it should be subject to a different appropriation and congressional debate. But I think we both know that Biden and Mayorkas know that Congress would never approve an appropriation for that, so they took it from weather related emergency funds.
 
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Well, yeah.

Ah great, so Republicans who oppose supplemental FEMA spending will be labeled as not caring about hurricane victims because this administration blew their wad on a bunch of illegals.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

We don’t have money. All we have is credit.

Being overwhelmed with migrants is not the kind of emergency FEMA is intended to deal with. If that situation requires funds, it should be subject to a different appropriation and congressional debate. But I think we both know that Biden and Mayorkas know that Congress would never approve an appropriation for that, so they took it from weather related emergency funds.
I’m not going to argue with this. But our credits still pretty good.
 
You're right...

The office of the President should have coordinated the response with all the tools at his disposal... Instead he worked on his tan...


FEMA:


FEMA is unable to fulfill their roll because they're more concerned with the aid and comfort of illegal aliens then fulfilling their mission to US Citizens...

Think they'll be rushing to put any of these folks up in luxury hotels with free cell phones, free food and internet connectivity... Somehow I doubt it...

FEMA has plenty of available resources for the near term, per Speaker Johnson. The CR passed and signed in the last few days provided something like $20B that became available Oct 1.



They of course will have to do an emergency supplemental, probably in November.... And it will be large... But at this point it's way too soon for passing such a bill as it will take some time before there are even reliable estimates of total damages.

This is a fake news story.
 
But our credits still pretty good.
Is that a benefit or curse? Easy credit doesn’t require Uncle Sam to set spending priorities. When we have the debate about more FEMA funding, do you think making a choice between green energy subsidies and disaster relief will be part of the discussion? Neither do I.
 
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FEMA has plenty of available resources for the near term, per Speaker Johnson. The CR passed and signed in the last few days provided something like $20B that became available Oct 1.



They of course will have to do an emergency supplemental, probably in November.... And it will be large... But at this point it's way too soon for passing such a bill as it will take some time before there are even reliable estimates of total damages.

This is a fake news story.

Not according to Mayorkas:

 
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Is that a benefit or curse? Easy credit doesn’t require Uncle Sam to set spending priorities. When we have the debate about more FEMA funding, do you think making a choice between green energy subsidies and disaster relief will be part of the discussion? Neither do I.
When we look at spending and relate it to the national debt…we’re so for over the Rubicon we’re coming around for lap 3.

There’s no fix. There’s no solve. At least not one that won’t radically change our government and way of life without taking 100 years to solve.

If that sounds merely pessimistic it’s because I still have hope.
 
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Not according to Mayorkas:


All he said was there wasn't enough funding for the remaining hurricane season... Which still has 2 months remaining. Everyone agrees with that.... The cost will be in the tens of billions for Helene alone.

Republican leadership agrees with that.... They just don't think they need to call Congress back for an emergency session before the election.

$600m or whatever for this migrant housing program is a completely different line item in the DHS budget. Most people don't understand appropriation law, but you'd hope these lying Congressmen would. The executive branch cannot reprogram money without congressional approval.
 
All he said was there wasn't enough funding for the remaining hurricane season... Which still has 2 months remaining. Everyone agrees with that.... The cost will be in the tens of billions for Helene alone.

Republican leadership agrees with that.... They just don't think they need to call Congress back for an emergency session before the election.

$600m or whatever for this migrant housing program is a completely different line item in the DHS budget. Most people don't understand appropriation law, but you'd hope these lying Congressmen would. The executive branch cannot reprogram money without congressional approval.

They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything...

I'd call that coming up a bit short...

Maybe if they somehow identified themselves as illegals they'd receive better treatment...
 
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All he said was there wasn't enough funding for the remaining hurricane season... Which still has 2 months remaining. Everyone agrees with that.... The cost will be in the tens of billions for Helene alone.

Republican leadership agrees with that.... They just don't think they need to call Congress back for an emergency session before the election.

$600m or whatever for this migrant housing program is a completely different line item in the DHS budget. Most people don't understand appropriation law, but you'd hope these lying Congressmen would. The executive branch cannot reprogram money without congressional approval.
“A warning by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas Wednesday that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) does not have enough funding to adequately respond to hurricanes came after the agency spent over $690 million this year to assist communities with influxes of migrants.”​
The pressure from local communities for federal migrant financial help was enormous. Politically Congress would never pass new appropriations for that, so Mayorkas did an end run around the appropriations problem.
 
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“A warning by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas Wednesday that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) does not have enough funding to adequately respond to hurricanes came after the agency spent over $690 million this year to assist communities with influxes of migrants.”​
The pressure from local communities for federal migrant financial help was enormous. Politically Congress would never pass new appropriations for that, so Mayorkas did an end run around the appropriations problem.

That's completely false. Hell it said it right in the NYPost article that Congress had allocated money for it. You cannot do an end around. It's blatantly illegal.

DHS allocated $780 million for the migrant crisis last year through the FEMA Emergency Food and Shelter Program, which funds relief not associated with natural disasters, and the FEMA Shelter and Services Program, which was authorized in late 2022 by Congress to respond to the migrant crisis.

See here

 
They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything...

I'd call that coming up a bit short...

Maybe if they somehow identified themselves as illegals they'd receive better treatment...

 
That's completely false. Hell it said it right in the NYPost article that Congress had allocated money for it. You cannot do an end around. It's blatantly illegal.

DHS allocated $780 million for the migrant crisis last year through the FEMA Emergency Food and Shelter Program, which funds relief not associated with natural disasters, and the FEMA Shelter and Services Program, which was authorized in late 2022 by Congress to respond to the migrant crisis.

See here

That’s what Mayorkas said. He has lied before. Is he lying about available funds?
 
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Unrelated to the FEMA $ issue here's another head scratcher:

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-...s1-5138093/helene-asheville-nc-drinking-water

//That's an NPR article so I presume that an "approved" news source...//

Why would Biden not ask Congress for the emergency waivers (or whatever it takes) to allow at least some of the extensive military assets in VA, NC, GA and AL to utilize their equipment and expertise in conducting emergency search and rescue ops, large scale water purification operations, emergency engineering operations, etc..., as needed...

Between the rotary wing assets at the former Fort Rucker and similar assets at the former Fort Bragg, not to mention the logistical assets at Camp Lejune and Robbins AF Base they could make short work of this cluster fvck... If we only had someone in charge who could make this happen 🙄🤔...

They could write it off as an inter-Service training exercise if it's a budget issue...

Geez... Those are American Citizens running out of water, food, and medicine out there...!

Guess they'll need to start flying Ukrainian flags to get the attention of this administration...😡
 
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This may be the next debacle. Allegedly running short on cash for the hurricane response. Spent a fortune on migrant sheltering. Maybe it’s earmarked, dedicated spending etc. We’ll have to see how this plays out. Couple this with the ports and it could be a rough month for Dems
I mean ya know, quit sending billions upon billions to other countries, and maybe when something catastrophic happens, this country could help its own???
 
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This may be the next debacle. Allegedly running short on cash for the hurricane response. Spent a fortune on migrant sheltering. Maybe it’s earmarked, dedicated spending etc. We’ll have to see how this plays out. Couple this with the ports and it could be a rough month for Dems
This might be the final straw for Biden/Harris

 
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You're right...

The office of the President should have coordinated the response with all the tools at his disposal... Instead he worked on his tan...


FEMA:


FEMA is unable to fulfill their roll because they're more concerned with the aid and comfort of illegal aliens then fulfilling their mission to US Citizens...

Think they'll be rushing to put any of these folks up in luxury hotels with free cell phones, free food and internet connectivity... Somehow I doubt it...
This should be the end for Border Czar Harris. Mayorkas should have been gone long ago.
 
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That’s what Mayorkas said. He has lied before. Is he lying about available funds?

Nope. It's what the DHS Appropriation language says. It is CBP funding that Congress authorized to be transferred to FEMA for actual execution. Has absolutely nothing to do with the FEMA disaster relief funds.

A form of this program has appropriated by Congress since 2019. Hmmm....

I'll try once more. At some point, just admit you're wrong and move on.

Here from the Congressional Research Service report.....


Authority, Funding, and Allowable Activities
The DHS Appropriations Act, 2024 (P.L. 118-47, Div. C, Title II) directed Customs and Border Protection
(CBP) to transfer $650 million of its FY2024 appropriation to FEMA for the SSP. The funding is
to support sheltering and related activities provided by non-Federal entities, in support of relieving
overcrowding in [CBP] short-term holding facilities.


 
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This may be the next debacle. Allegedly running short on cash for the hurricane response. Spent a fortune on migrant sheltering. Maybe it’s earmarked, dedicated spending etc. We’ll have to see how this plays out. Couple this with the ports and it could be a rough month for Dems

Good job starting a bullshit thread based upon a lie and let the normal rabid dogs attack
 
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Again I don’t know what dollars are restricted etc but if they aren’t and that’s where they went and appropriations aren’t fast this will get ugly
@twenty02 if you are able to read with a hint of discernment, including appropriations, and all the “may” in the original post, there are quite a few disclaimers.
 
Good job starting a bullshit thread based upon a lie and let the normal rabid dogs attack
It's not a lie if you believe it. You have facts. They're just presenting alternative facts.
I’m not sure that matters. They’re short on money. They need the money now. For those states and shit another one could hit tomorrow. We’ll get to it in nov?

A billion dollars has been spent in the last two years on ssp. The fact that it’s a separate appropriated grant program is of no moment. . A congressional decision was made for that after letting in 10 million people and doubling the non confined docket. Immigration blunders by Biden/Harris in the name of wokeness. You’ve loss the forest for the trees on a technicality. Money to one always impacts money to another. Gov. 501c3 programs. Everywhere.
 
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so funds aren’t being redirected. I’m not sure that matters. They’re short on money. They need the money now. For those states and shit another one could hit tomorrow.

A billion dollars has been spent in the last two years on ssp. The fact that it’s a separate appropriated grant program is of no moment. . A congressional decision was made for that after letting in 10 million people and doubling the non confined docket. Immigration blunders
I do agree dems messed up the border situation. We have failures of leadership all over our country.

It's convenient and despicable to try and tie these two things together. But it happens.

I'm guessing logistics is a much larger problem than funding at this point. Hopefully, these people get what they need asap.
 
I do agree dems messed up the border situation. We have failures of leadership all over our country.

It's convenient and despicable to try and tie these two things together. But it happens.

I'm guessing logistics is a much larger problem than funding at this point. Hopefully, these people get what they need asap.
i don't think it's despicable at all. we should be very critical of matters like this. fema short funding is completely absurd. everything is tied together. we opened the border and created a new obligation so monies were appropriated; monies that could have gone to other things, and now we have a shortfall. another hits tomorrow we're in trouble. as you said we have failures of leadership all over our country. fema short on money is one of them.
 
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As much as I hate this administration, I can't fault them for the $750 FEMA payout. That is both sides of the aisle's fault. That amount should have been changed long time ago. I understand that FEMA is not supposed to be a long term fix for disasters of this magnitude. But this amount is ridiculous especially for families.
 
@twenty02 if you are able to read with a hint of discernment, including appropriations, and all the “may” in the original post, there are quite a few disclaimers.

Yes, your post had your own disclaimers. But it was just red meat for the dogs on here. Look at the responses.

I expect nothing less from this hell hole, so no big deal.
 
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Department Of Transportation Orders Citizens To Stop Using Drones To Help With Hurricane Helene Rescue Efforts


Whether it's the Helene response, the wildfires out west, the border or other random issues it seems we have failures across multiple federal agencies under this administration and stories like these, even if they aren't to blame, are at best bad optics.
 
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Yes, your post had your own disclaimers. But it was just red meat for the dogs on here. Look at the responses.

I expect nothing less from this hell hole, so no big deal.
Fema is short-funded. There isn't enough money. If something happens, in hurricane season, it would be a literal and figurative disaster until nov
One billion dollars was spent in the last two years providing shelter services to migrants because the border was opened.

That's worthy of a thread and criticism. That monies weren't redirected is a distinction without a difference
 
Fema is short-funded. There isn't enough money. If something happens, in hurricane season, it would be a literal and figurative disaster until nov
One billion dollars was spent in the last two years providing shelter services to migrants because the border was opened.

That's worthy of a thread and criticism. That monies weren't redirected is a distinction without a difference

There's not going to be any shortage of FEMA money. Good grief. How ridiculous.

Mayorkas is a moron for coming out and wording things like he did... Maybe he thought it was good politics to try to blame the GOP Congress.

This entire topic is total kabuki theater. Silly season. Fake.
 
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