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Yeah I'd get the hell outta dodge. I'd rather regret dealing with traffic and paying for a couple nights in an overpriced hotel room than the possible alternative. But I don't live in Florida, so I don't have to deal with this ever. My sister in law lives in Tampa and they never leave either.
Supposedly Tampa hasn't had a direct hurricane hit since the 1920s
 
Too bad that's not Murt's spot on the flag, he could just shag himself...problem solved!

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Supposed to be a 3, possibly 4, by the time it hits land.

It's bigger now because it's over really warm water.
I’d still go east even just for a night. Call though don’t wait. Shit books fast
 
I’d still go east even just for a night. Call though don’t wait. Shit books fast
Definitely will. We belong to the Hilton Vacation Club and they don't have vacancies around Miami. But they do in Orlando - right in the path of the hurricane. lol Still, it would be away from the surge. I could go cross country to get to Orlando, although the traffice through there would be insane.

I'll have the wife check out Ft. Lauderdale. Maybe an AirBnB since my friends are down here for the month and we could all go over there. I hope this shit is over by Saturday - we're flying up to Atlants for the ELO concert Saturday night.
 
Definitely will. We belong to the Hilton Vacation Club and they don't have vacancies around Miami. But they do in Orlando - right in the path of the hurricane. lol Still, it would be away from the surge. I could go cross country to get to Orlando, although the traffice through there would be insane.

I'll have the wife check out Ft. Lauderdale. Maybe an AirBnB since my friends are down here for the month and we could all go over there. I hope this shit is over by Saturday - we're flying up to Atlants for the ELO concert Saturday night.
Or Miami - there will be availability there
 
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Well, I was at the Ashville Airport on the Monday after and there were Army Chinook after Chinook taking off loaded with supplies. You're just wrong on that point. I wasn't at the airport on Sunday, so I can't tell whether or not they were there or not. The effort everyone put out was extraordinary.

I appreciate the kind wishes and I hope the same for your family. This was a major disaster.
Best wishes for your family.

Did your family have any warning how bad it could be?
 
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You’ve already seen 1 major distinctions, look at the data and you’ll find the other two.


This is the WaPo lie based upon Mayorkas head fake. I’ve explained the difference.

As far as FEMA running short is concerned, that is a Mayorkas quote. But I’ll give you that he is as dumb as a box of rocks.
One of the huge differences, Congress voted to move the money in one scenario. In the other, the president did it himself. This is the first time you have ever argued for a president circumventing Congress and doing it himself.
 
Saw them at Gainbridge last month...greatness.
Yeah, my buddy was supposed to get a ticket for me for that but then forgot. I got bounced for his floozy.

Next closest was Atlanta, so I got tix for that.
 
One of the huge differences, Congress voted to move the money in one scenario. In the other, the president did it himself. This is the first time you have ever argued for a president circumventing Congress and doing it himself.
Wrong. You have fallen for the Mayorkas head fake. You do know there are TWO FEMA funds. . You are talking about the wrong one.
 
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Wrong. You have fallen for the Mayorkas head fake. You do know there are TWO FEMA funds. . You are talking about the wrong one.
And you are falling for the "Trump said it so it must be true" head fake

 
And you are falling for the "Trump said it so it must be true" head fake


They are lying to you. Maoyorkas spent emergency funds on migrants, not just money from the food and shelter program congress created in 2022. That emergency money is . . . . .gone! It doesn’t make any difference that Congress backfilled by deepening the national debt.
 
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I am sick I didn’t get tickets for that concert.
Was sitting at BCC drinking with one of our local ice cream restauranteurs day of show when his HS kid talked us into going. He's an old soul. Went to America at Brown County and sang every song at 15. He kept pulling up songs on his phone while we were sitting on the patio killing Whitehavens with the wives, and basically tripled dog dared us not to go.

Pulled up Stubhub, found 6, and off we went. 😄
 
@DANC 75 looks awful. I’d go south hit alligator and stay in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami
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Yeah, if we go, I'll go to Ft. Lauderdale. I've scoped out some AirBnBs.

Thing is, the storm is still headed to Tampa, which is 120 miles away. The storm itself is 160 miles wide, which means it's 80 miles south. We're about 120 miles from Tampa. So, while I know there will be storm surge, I don't think the wind will be that bad (predicted 50mph GUSTS) and the surge won't affect our immediate area. Ian surge came about a mile west of us.

The thing I'm worried most about - and I'm not that worried - is flooding. It's been raining - HARD - for DAYS. The ground is super saturated. I don't want my car to float away.

But I'll see how it is Tuesday morning.
 
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Was sitting at BCC drinking with one of our local ice cream restauranteurs day of show when his HS kid talked us into going. He's an old soul. Went to America at Brown County and sang every song at 15. He kept pulling up songs on his phone while we were sitting on the patio killing Whitehavens with the wives, and basically tripled dog dared us not to go.

Pulled up Stubhub, found 6, and off we went. 😄
I hope you took the kid to the concert!
 
The thing I'm worried most about - and I'm not that worried - is flooding. It's been raining - HARD - for DAYS. The ground is super saturated. I don't want my car to float away.

But I'll see how it is Tuesday morning.
Eff the car, don't you float away. Be safe.
 
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This is crazy because she started the video when I arrived in Asheville. Sep 25th. Perfectly documented. We went out to dinner on the 26th and after that the nightmare started.



This is much better:

 
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Yeah, if we go, I'll go to Ft. Lauderdale. I've scoped out some AirBnBs.

Thing is, the storm is still headed to Tampa, which is 120 miles away. The storm itself is 160 miles wide, which means it's 80 miles south. We're about 120 miles from Tampa. So, while I know there will be storm surge, I don't think the wind will be that bad (predicted 50mph GUSTS) and the surge won't affect our immediate area. Ian surge came about a mile west of us.

The thing I'm worried most about - and I'm not that worried - is flooding. It's been raining - HARD - for DAYS. The ground is super saturated. I don't want my car to float away.

But I'll see how it is Tuesday morning.

I all too well remember Ian that was tracking towards Tampa until it turned a bit south. Your going to be on the dirty side of the storm no matter what, it's just to what degree.

Our family's place on FMB is just now ready to be back open, 2 years later. And this is setup to be possibly as bad. Obviously very different for you inland and you'll probably be fine. But being without power for prolonged period your probably biggest issue.
 
Yeah, if we go, I'll go to Ft. Lauderdale. I've scoped out some AirBnBs.

Thing is, the storm is still headed to Tampa, which is 120 miles away. The storm itself is 160 miles wide, which means it's 80 miles south. We're about 120 miles from Tampa. So, while I know there will be storm surge, I don't think the wind will be that bad (predicted 50mph GUSTS) and the surge won't affect our immediate area. Ian surge came about a mile west of us.

The thing I'm worried most about - and I'm not that worried - is flooding. It's been raining - HARD - for DAYS. The ground is super saturated. I don't want my car to float away.

But I'll see how it is Tuesday morning.
And what if it dips South? I would go.

 
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I all too well remember Ian that was tracking towards Tampa until it turned a bit south. Your going to be on the dirty side of the storm no matter what, it's just to what degree.

Our family's place on FMB is just now ready to be back open, 2 years later. And this is setup to be possibly as bad. Obviously very different for you inland and you'll probably be fine. But being without power for prolonged period your probably biggest issue.
This is the exact same scenario for my co-worker. She was flying down Friday to give the last payment to her contractor. She was a real joy to work with yesterday
 
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They are lying to you. Maoyorkas spent emergency funds on migrants, not just money from the food and shelter program congress created in 2022. That emergency money is . . . . .gone! It doesn’t make any difference that Congress backfilled by deepening the national debt.
I'm fairly certain you're simply wrong on this one. They are separate funds, as you said, but none of the money in the disaster relief fund was transferred to migrant services.

 
I'm fairly certain you're simply wrong on this one. They are separate funds, as you said, but none of the money in the disaster relief fund was transferred to migrant services.

I’m not talking about the disaster relief fund. I’m talking about the Emergency Food and Shelter Fund. Look at the KJP statement I linked and then look at the FEMA denial. The conclusion is obvious.
 
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I’m not talking about the disaster relief fund. I’m talking about the Emergency Food and Shelter Fund. Look at the KJP statement I linked and then look at the FEMA denial. The conclusion is obvious.
Never mind. I went back and reread this thread and twenty clearly and without ambiguity demonstrated that you're plain wrong on this last week. It doesn't affect you. I think your hatred of Democrats had made it difficult for you to discriminate reality from fantasy.
 
The emergency food and shelter fund is irrelevant to this debate. It has nothing to do with disaster relief.

I think the confusion is two similarly named programs. There once was a Emergency Food and Shelter Program. In 2023 Congress renamed it and specifically tasked it to help migrants.


The Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023 (P.L. 117-328) directed the establishment of a new grant program—the Shelter and Services Program (SSP).89 Specifically, the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2023 (Div. F, Title II of P.L. 117-328), transferred $800 million from CBP to FEMA “to support sheltering and related activities provided by non-Federal entities, including facility improvements and construction, in support of relieving overcrowding in short-term holding facilities of [CBP].”90​
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Through the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2023 (Div. F, Title II of P.L. 117-328), Congress made funding available for FEMA to implement the EFSP-H in a different manner than EFSP-H had previously been authorized. Instead of appropriating a set amount of funding directly to FEMA for the EFSP-H, Section 211(a) stated that a portion of the $800 million—specifically, up to $785 million—may potentially be used to provide shelter and supportive services to migrants encountered by DHS through EFSP-H.92 Although it was initially unclear how much, if any, funding would be provided for the EFSP-H, FEMA awarded grants of $75 million and $350 million of the potentially available $785 million (totaling $425 million) for the EFSP-H.93​
So there you have it, the money was properly spent in immigrants, end of story. No money from disaster relief was spent, end of story.

Except it won't be because - POLITICAL GAIN!.

I don't know why CO is so angry that the executive branch spent the money exactly as congress intended.

Now, let's see if he provides a link proving the Congressional Research Service is wrong.
 
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