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You are the second person who posted this idea in the last few hours. Trump affects all of us. I think people who segregate along Trump/no Trump are a problem. Most of those are no Trump. Im voting for him. I guess you need to decide what that means for you.

As far what politicians are voting for him is concerned, I’m in the Haley, Barr, Pompeo (and others) camp. Cheney did a lot of good for the country and we were lucky to have him when we did. He can vote for Kamala, that’s okay. I still would vote for Romney if I could and he hates Trump.
 
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You are the second person who posted this idea in the last few hours. Trump affects all of us. I think people who segregate along Trump/no Trump are a problem. Most of those are no Trump. Im voting for him. I guess you need to decide what that means for you.

As far what politicians are voting for him is concerned, I’m in the Haley, Barr, Pompeo (and others) camp. Cheney did a lot of good for the country and we were lucky to have him when we did. He can vote for Kamala, that’s okay. I still would vote for Romney if I could and he hates Trump.

So, what would the bottom be for you? You like Ted Bundy's policies so you would vote for him? My god, is there anything that would make you think twice about voting for this total scumbag/loser? He is grotesque, a rapist, a felon, a failed businessman in almost everything he's involved himself.You don't think DICK CHENEY of all people isn't conservative enough or well informed?

Wow...

This is why people are saying that to you. We're flabbergasted that a poster who is so well respected who is now no better than Mas, DANC, and all the other weirdos around here. Are you going to start arguing that there are lizard people?

More than anything else, I'm disappointed. Sad. Please don't respond. It will be useless.
 
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I still like you CO. Old dogs can learn new tricks. I'm hoping you can too.
 
So, what would the bottom be for you? You like Ted Bundy's policies so you would vote for him? My god, is there anything that would make you think twice about voting for this total scumbag/loser? He is grotesque, a rapist, a felon, a failed businessman in almost everything he's involved himself.You don't think DICK CHENEY of all people isn't conservative enough or well informed?

Wow...

This is why people are saying that to you. We're flabbergasted that a poster who is so well respected who is now no better than Mas, DANC, and all the other weirdos around here. Are you going to start arguing that there are lizard people?

More than anything else, I'm disappointed. Sad. Please don't respond. It will be useless.
^^^^ Cuckoo ^^^^
 
They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything...

I'd call that coming up a bit short...

Maybe if they somehow identified themselves as illegals they'd receive better treatment...
As usual, facts can't find a place in MAGA brains.

Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery.

Fact:​

This is false.

This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language.


 
As usual, facts can't find a place in MAGA brains.

Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery.

Fact:​

This is false.

This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language.


Poor attempt at a straw man. @76-1 never said FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to suppor their recovery.

He said "They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything.." He never said it was all FEMA would give out.

Little word you left out there. $750 is pathetically small, even for emergency assistance.

Now, try posting honestly next time.
 
Poor attempt at a straw man. @76-1 never said FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to suppor their recovery.

He said "They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything.." He never said it was all FEMA would give out.

Little word you left out there. $750 is pathetically small, even for emergency assistance.

Now, try posting honestly next time.
Dan, he framed it as if $750 was all that victims would receive. That's patently false, as the document from FEMA addressed. It is immediate emergency money. You live in North Carolina as I recall. If FEMA started handing out money unbridled, what would you be saying?

Honestly, what would you find to be the proper amount? This was an unexpected and unprecedented disaster. Just being at the Asheville airport and seeing the mobilization that took place with the National Guard Chinooks with soldiers hanging their legs out the back. and everyone else who was involved. Convoys of trucks trying to get things up and running as soon as possible. Police dealing with looters (?) while trying to do wellness checks on everyone in the surrounding area.

This reminds me of the BENGHAZI!!! whiners. Rescuers take time to mobilize. There needs to be planning and logistics.

What I learned from being on the ground was that as much as we want our government and military to be supermen, it's not possible. We do the best we possibly can. And I was impressed by the area around Asheville. They did their very best.
 
Dan, he framed it as if $750 was all that victims would receive. That's patently false, as the document from FEMA addressed. It is immediate emergency money. You live in North Carolina as I recall. If FEMA started handing out money unbridled, what would you be saying?

Honestly, what would you find to be the proper amount? This was an unexpected and unprecedented disaster. Just being at the Asheville airport and seeing the mobilization that took place with the National Guard Chinooks with soldiers hanging their legs out the back. and everyone else who was involved. Convoys of trucks trying to get things up and running as soon as possible. Police dealing with looters (?) while trying to do wellness checks on everyone in the surrounding area.

This reminds me of the BENGHAZI!!! whiners. Rescuers take time to mobilize. There needs to be planning and logistics.

What I learned from being on the ground was that as much as we want our government and military to be supermen, it's not possible. We do the best we possibly can. And I was impressed by the area around Asheville. They did their very best.

How about they match whatever they're giving an illegal alien for starters and work up from there...

Nobody needs a full f...king week to mobilize... Especially when you have multiple major military bases within a range of 4 to 8 hours of flight time to the diasaster area...

The deployment standard for the Marine Corps and Army Airborne troops is under 24 hours.. Its under 48 for their civilian support contractors for gosh sakes...

This type of response was supposed to have been addressed by the Katrina After Action Report... My guess is the Democrats have either never read it, or wouldn't consider implementing the lessons learned because it was based on observations from a republican administration...

In the meantime people have drowned due to lack of helicopter rescue response and support aircraft on site...
 
Dan, he framed it as if $750 was all that victims would receive. That's patently false, as the document from FEMA addressed. It is immediate emergency money. You live in North Carolina as I recall. If FEMA started handing out money unbridled, what would you be saying?

Honestly, what would you find to be the proper amount? This was an unexpected and unprecedented disaster. Just being at the Asheville airport and seeing the mobilization that took place with the National Guard Chinooks with soldiers hanging their legs out the back. and everyone else who was involved. Convoys of trucks trying to get things up and running as soon as possible. Police dealing with looters (?) while trying to do wellness checks on everyone in the surrounding area.

This reminds me of the BENGHAZI!!! whiners. Rescuers take time to mobilize. There needs to be planning and logistics.

What I learned from being on the ground was that as much as we want our government and military to be supermen, it's not possible. We do the best we possibly can. And I was impressed by the area around Asheville. They did their very best.
Giving money when there is nothing to buy is an insult. The Red Cross is always first on the scene in disasters with relief supplies. They give them away. The Red Cross is good at this. They provide food, water, blankets whatever. This was an unusual situation because of no access. If FEMA was trying to imitate the Red Cross, which is an okay thing to do, but going into the heart of the devastation with $750 checks, that you have to apply for, is tone deaf. FEMA did the same thing in Maui, you’d think they would learn.

FEMA used to be better at this. It seemed to go down hill after 911 when the Ivy League know-it-alls put FEMA under the new Homeland Security agency. Homeland Security under this administration is all about immigrants and migration. FEMA is a victim of mission creep and mission dilution.
 
Biden should roll into Asheville and throw rolls of paper towels- be blindly partisan but be accurate and balanced brother. Then look up Puerto Rico during Trump years. Federal government is big brother or do we want individual responsibility? Which is it, big government when it helps you, and screw it at every other time? Seems not congruent to my view.
Dems care more about sending billions to countries that hate us rather than taking care of our own citizens. How anyone hasn't figured that out by now is impossible to believe.

 
Dan, he framed it as if $750 was all that victims would receive. That's patently false, as the document from FEMA addressed. It is immediate emergency money. You live in North Carolina as I recall. If FEMA started handing out money unbridled, what would you be saying?

Honestly, what would you find to be the proper amount? This was an unexpected and unprecedented disaster. Just being at the Asheville airport and seeing the mobilization that took place with the National Guard Chinooks with soldiers hanging their legs out the back. and everyone else who was involved. Convoys of trucks trying to get things up and running as soon as possible. Police dealing with looters (?) while trying to do wellness checks on everyone in the surrounding area.

This reminds me of the BENGHAZI!!! whiners. Rescuers take time to mobilize. There needs to be planning and logistics.

What I learned from being on the ground was that as much as we want our government and military to be supermen, it's not possible. We do the best we possibly can. And I was impressed by the area around Asheville. They did their very best.
No, he never said that - that's your interpretation.

I have no doubt the military is involved now. But where were they on Monday, days after the weather moved through?

When were you there?

I suggested the 82nd Airborne drop troops and supplies in those hard hit areas, which they're FINALLY doing after a week. They're 3 hours by vehicle alone. They are close by at Ft. Freedom (Bragg). Biden could have easily mobilized them yet he didn't. People around Charlotte are collecting incredible amounts of aid and taking it themselves there. Why can't the military do that? I realize they are now, but they weren't on the ground right afterwards.

PS I hope your family is OK and doing well there
 
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No, he never said that - that's your interpretation.

I have no doubt the military is involved now. But where were they on Monday, days after the weather moved through?

When were you there?

I suggested the 82nd Airborne drop troops and supplies in those hard hit areas, which they're FINALLY doing after a week. They're 3 hours by vehicle alone. They are close by at Ft. Freedom (Bragg). Biden could have easily mobilized them yet he didn't. People around Charlotte are collecting incredible amounts of aid and taking it themselves there. Why can't the military do that? I realize they are now, but they weren't on the ground right afterwards.

PS I hope your family is OK and doing well there
Wonder how many people died in the immediate aftermath (within 2-3 days) due to inaction?

Father in Law is on oxygen. If the power goes out he's got a battery backup and a tank. Anything longer than 30ish hours and he'd be in trouble. I'm sure there are plenty of people in that situation. Any meds that need refrigeration are gone within a day or two.

What a shit show and POTUS is saying "Oh, that storm". We're slowly devolving into a 3rd world banana republic. I wonder how long it will take.
 
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Wonder how many people died in the immediate aftermath (within 2-3 days) due to inaction?

Father in Law is on oxygen. If the power goes out he's got a battery backup and a tank. Anything longer than 30ish hours and he'd be in trouble. I'm sure there are plenty of people in that situation. Any meds that need refrigeration are gone within a day or two.

What a shit show and POTUS is saying "Oh, that storm". We're slowly devolving into a 3rd world banana republic. I wonder how long it will take.
8 years of Harris
 
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8 years of Harris
When I was younger and my kids were little, I thought that if things were ever gonna go to hell, I hope it's while I'm still young enough to protect them in some way and help them adapt. 9/11 and later the financial crisis. Now they're adults and I'm getting too old to really do much about anything if it all went to hell. I feel bad for what they'll have to go through without me 25 years from now. Hopefully, they'll be able to help their kids.

We seem to be accelerating as the cliff approaches. Depressing as hell if you'd let it get to you, I suppose.
 
They've only allocated $750.00 in emergency assistance to people who've lost everything...

I'd call that coming up a bit short...

Maybe if they somehow identified themselves as illegals they'd receive better treatment...
And people that apply online, when they have connectivity (most don’t) are being quickly denied. The government sucks
 
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FEMA has plenty of available resources for the near term, per Speaker Johnson. The CR passed and signed in the last few days provided something like $20B that became available Oct 1.



They of course will have to do an emergency supplemental, probably in November.... And it will be large... But at this point it's way too soon for passing such a bill as it will take some time before there are even reliable estimates of total damages.

This is a fake news story.
There is currently a fake story going around saying FEMA is refusing to allow Musk to set up starrling connections for use by affected people.
 
Wonder how many people died in the immediate aftermath (within 2-3 days) due to inaction?

Father in Law is on oxygen. If the power goes out he's got a battery backup and a tank. Anything longer than 30ish hours and he'd be in trouble. I'm sure there are plenty of people in that situation. Any meds that need refrigeration are gone within a day or two.

What a shit show and POTUS is saying "Oh, that storm". We're slowly devolving into a 3rd world banana republic. I wonder how long it will take.
Time is of the essence in these situations. Government is not nimble enough for these situations.

However, the active military is geared for quick reaction (most are, anyway, especially combat units like the 82nd and 101st). Marines, of course. And they have the heavy equipment necessary to get in there and move what needs to be moved.

The National Guard is fine, but it's also relatively slow moving to get them involved.

If Trump gets elected, I hope he puts JD on a mission to transform FEMA into a more nimble operation that can work with state and local government for quick reaction.

Situations like this make me want to be a prepper. So many things can go wrong in a hurry - should have learned my lesson during Covid. At least I have 2 years of toilet paper now.
 
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Didn’t use the word assistance. Ukraine is a bottomless money pit.
The term is Security Assistance. I’ll use the proper terminology. As a moonbat pretending to be MAGA wingnut you wouldn’t have a clue.
 
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No
Biden and Harris gave them billions.
No US funding went to Iran. Trump administration allowed Iran access to $10B of their own funds in 2019 in a deal that allows Iraq access to Iranian energy. As part of a hostage release deal the Biden administration unfroze Iranian access to $6B additional Iranian funds. Both deals restrict spending to humanitarian uses. Because of restrictions, very little from either of those decisions has been spent. Additional restrictions have been put on the $6B so that it’s essentially frozen again. So bottom line is Trump and Biden administrations allowed Iran access to $16B of their own funds which had been frozen and Iran has spent very little of it. The funds sit in banks in Oman, and I believe UAE or Qatar.
 
No they weren’t. The airspace was not shut down to aid and rescues. But we understand why you need to believe it
Musk posted videos of his helicoptor not being allowed to land by FEMA on the ground.

But we understand why you would deny video evidence.
 
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Musk posted videos of his helicoptor not being allowed to land by FEMA on the ground.

But we understand why you would deny video evidence.
Being denied access to an active gov landing spot is a very different story than the crap you are spewing Good way to get shot down. Try entering one of those Nat Grd trailers without permission.

What is you man Robinson telling to you say about this.
 
Being denied access to an active gov landing spot is a very different story than the crap you are spewing Good way to get shot down. Try entering one of those Nat Grd trailers without permission.

What is you man Robinson telling to you say about this.
I'm not spewing anything. Musk's helicoptor was denied clearance to land and contacted Bootyjudge directly and got permission to land.

lmao Did they think the Russians were invading? North Koreans?
 
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