It's the least they could do, yes.So you want them to issue a retraction for the debate?
It's the least they could do, yes.So you want them to issue a retraction for the debate?
I want them fired. 😂So you want them to issue a retraction for the debate?
Bastard was interfering in the election. He should be prosecuted for misinformation. This is a democrat position afterall.Okey dokey
That’s somewhat addressed in the RCI article.What you need is a list of each time these departments change past reporting, and by how much. Then you could compare across administrations to see if they do it more or less or the same for certain political parties.
I'm surprised at this point no one has reported on that.
Funny ain’t it how these corrections always seem to cut one way? At least politically speaking.Hope you're not expecting a response from the 'crime is down' crowd.
This was as predictable as the jobs report being lowered down.
But they’re unbiased, didn’t you know?Funny ain’t it how these corrections always seem to cut one way? At least politically speaking.
Seaman Aloha has decreed that anything other than an assumption that this was an honest mistake is baseless conjecture and makes one a wing nut conspiracy theorist.Bump
Isn't it amazing how these mistakes, glitches, anomalies, etc always go in one direction?Seaman Aloha has decreed that anything other than an assumption that this was an honest mistake is baseless conjecture and makes one a wing nut conspiracy theorist.
You need something concrete to base it on and you’ve got nothing but baseless speculation. I don’t know if you’re a wingnut but they’re generating a ton of obviously false conspiracy theories these days.Seaman Aloha has decreed that anything other than an assumption that this was an honest mistake is baseless conjecture and makes one a wing nut conspiracy theorist.
They don’t.Isn't it amazing how these mistakes, glitches, anomalies, etc always go in one direction?
Aloha has a real blind spot on certain things. It’s quite striking.Isn't it amazing how these mistakes, glitches, anomalies, etc always go in one direction?
What makes it baseless speculation? The fact that it never happened to this degree before 2022?You need something concrete to base it on and you’ve got nothing but baseless speculation. I don’t know if you’re a wingnut but they’re generating a ton of obviously false conspiracy theories these days.
Talk to me, not about me. I think they should make an inquiry. If there was an actual nefarious plot, you think they’d correct the data before the election? That wouldn’t be very logical, would it?Aloha has a real blind spot on certain things. It’s quite striking.
No rational person can look at what the FBI did here and say there isn’t even a REASON to be suspicious of their motives. And that to do so makes one a wing nut conspiracy theorist.
Especially with the recent history of the FBI.
It’s crazy.
Because it’s baseless. You have zero evidence that anything deliberate or nefarious happened. Zilch. That’s the definition of baseless speculation.What makes it baseless speculation? The fact that it never happened to this degree before 2022?
Or that they tried slipping it in without anyone noticing it?
Or that, as far as I know, they STILL haven’t offered an explanation?
Something must make you say that.
So far all you’ve said is “mistakes are made. Big deal.”
Talk to me, not about me. I think they should make an inquiry. If there was an actual nefarious plot, you think they’d correct the data before the election? That wouldn’t be very logical, would it?
If it’s baseless speculation and there’s ZERO evidence, then why would there be a need for an inquiry?Because it’s baseless. You have zero evidence that anything deliberate or nefarious happened. Zilch. That’s the definition of baseless speculation.
Because it’s worth checking. It’ll probably be an innocent mistake, but maybe not. There is zero evidence it was anything other than a mistake.If it’s baseless speculation and there’s ZERO evidence, then why would there be a need for an inquiry?
You’re not even making any sense.
And I explained my reasoning for why they fixed the numbers now, even though they tried to do so without anyone noticing it.
Plausible deniability. Joe/Kamala had over a YEAR ago campaign on these outstanding crime numbers.
You change them 3 weeks before the election, no one really even notices.
But now they can say, “hey, we released the REAL numbers before the election. We’re totes sorry, ya’ll. It was an honest mistake.”
You really are a man of faith, Aloha. Don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise.Because it’s worth checking. It’ll probably be an innocent mistake, but maybe not. There is zero evidence it was anything other than a mistake.
If it was nefarious, they’d correct it after the election. It would only be logical.
I’m fond of facts.You really are a man of faith, Aloha. Don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
Good grief. 😂
Aloha, anyone with any sense could have looked at these incorrect numbers, surveyed what was happening across the country and said “hell this makes no sense, we better review this again before publishing”. That obviously didn’t happen. Therefore they’re incompetent assholes or it was intentional. Both speak very lowly of the FBI.Because it’s worth checking. It’ll probably be an innocent mistake, but maybe not. There is zero evidence it was anything other than a mistake.
If it was nefarious, they’d correct it after the election. It would only be logical.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Nothing wrong with that. I prefer to wait for facts to come out first.Aloha, anyone with any sense could have looked at these incorrect numbers, surveyed what was happening across the country and said “hell this makes no sense, we better review this again before publishing”. That obviously didn’t happen. Therefore they’re incompetent assholes or it was intentional. Both speak very lowly of the FBI.
You’re a 🍆Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Nothing wrong with that. I prefer to wait for facts to come out first.
He's a dollar tree Mark Cuban.You really are a man of faith, Aloha. Don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
Good grief. 😂
The fact that they did not offer some explanation immediately, and rather tried to make this change as quietly as possible is a basis for questioning their motives. This is clearly not completely baseless, as you state.Because it’s baseless. You have zero evidence that anything deliberate or nefarious happened. Zilch. That’s the definition of baseless speculation.
We’re all just MAGA conspiracy turds to Aloha. There is no basis to question anything.The fact that they did not offer some explanation immediately, and rather tried to make this change as quietly as possible is a basis for questioning their motives. This is clearly not completely baseless, as you state.
I didn’t call you turds. Be fair. 😉 Conspiracy theories rarely prove true. Right now you only have a theory and I wouldn’t put money on it proving true. You could get lucky though.We’re all just MAGA conspiracy turds to Aloha. There is no basis to question anything.
Not even something as CLEARLY messed up as this.
You know very well we will never find out the facts. EVER!Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Nothing wrong with that. I prefer to wait for facts to come out first.
Is violent crime up or down?I didn’t call you turds. Be fair. 😉 Conspiracy theories rarely prove true. Right now you only have a theory and I wouldn’t put money on it proving true. You could get lucky though.
I don’t know that.You know very well we will never find out the facts. EVER!
Why do you ask? We can both see the numbers.Is violent crime up or down?
We didn’t need the numbers to see that.Why do you ask? We can both see the numbers.
If you say so. I’m not capable of guessing the national numbers from Dayton, OH area. I don’t collect the data.We didn’t need the numbers to see that.
Stoll is such a lib, he just "feels" it.If you say so. I’m not capable of guessing the national numbers from Dayton, OH area. I don’t collect the data.
They didn’t loudly announce they missed by 6.6%. 6.6% Aloha. How damn bad is that? Are they really that incompetent?!? -2.1% compared to 4.5%.Because it’s worth checking. It’ll probably be an innocent mistake, but maybe not. There is zero evidence it was anything other than a mistake.
If it was nefarious, they’d correct it after the election. It would only be logical.
It's such a bogus report anyway. New York and other major cities didn't even report.Aloha, anyone with any sense could have looked at these incorrect numbers, surveyed what was happening across the country and said “hell this makes no sense, we better review this again before publishing”. That obviously didn’t happen. Therefore they’re incompetent assholes or it was intentional. Both speak very lowly of the FBI.
The % miss on this “mistake” is staggering.It's such a bogus report anyway. New York and other majoe cities didn't even report.
And the FBI knows this and yet puts out bogus data.
But no, there's no reason to doubt them..... you have to be a real moron to believe anything they put out today.
Census Reports requesting balance sheet and income statement numbers on companies are a joke. On occasion I’ve called their offices requesting extensions. The Census employees have told me to just estimate/guess and send them in.As usual they'll be plenty of inquiries after the fact on this and why the variance. As there should be.
The Feds are terrible with large data compilation, always have been. I don't know the mechanism that local agencies use to report this data.... But I'm highly suspect there is a uniform data structure.
Very little incentive to get things both accurate and quick in the public sector. It usually gets reported right, eventually... But may be months or years later.
I've never put much stock in these national numbers and nor should anyone else. Better to look at trends reported by state and local officials.
I can think of three rather substantial ones that turned out to be true just in the last few years.I didn’t call you turds. Be fair. 😉 Conspiracy theories rarely prove true. Right now you only have a theory and I wouldn’t put money on it proving true. You could get lucky though.