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End DEI

Until you walk in another person's shoes, how in the Hell do you know? It took laws to get our civil rights but yet black men unarmed men our kill by police. We still suffer from red-lining but yet we do have a dept of HUD. We still suffer from voter suppression. They want to ban our books and our history to hide all the shit that was done to us. When we have someone who at least tries to let us ,you have a problem. You got rid of affirmative action because you do not want things equal. The list goes on. Walk in another man's shoes.
Glad to see you back...
 
FL, the DeSantis utopia, has a record shortage of over 7,000 teachers as of this school year. Teachers are leaving the state in droves,and the 2 primary driving forces behind the mass exit is politics and pay...

"Out of all 50 states and the District of Columbia, Florida has one of the lowest average teacher salaries ranking 48th with an average yearly salary of $51,000, according to data from the National Education Association."

If you think those teachers are mainly leaving because they are afraid of performance ratings, you're as lost as the psycho "Moms For Liberty". Rude awakening for the MFL, as candidates after candidate they pushed/endorsed were rejected in key school board races across the country. Particularly in PA,VA and Iowa...


Lots of states are deciding that when it comes to Education, they don't want to be Florida...

That's too bad. Those teacher's are getting out at the wrong time.

Does teacher pay correlate with better students results? I care much less about teacher pay numbers that don't account or cost living than I do about the production of high quality students. So is Florida's lack of pay hurt them with student outcomes?



Nope. Run along now clown.
 
The NRA was founded in 1871. I’d venture to say that more than a few of the members at the time owned guns for self defense.
Some of the most outspoken anti-NRA advocates are one time members dismayed by the shift to a political grift.

Like Ryan Busse, who actually worked in sales/marketing for Kimber America...

 
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That's too bad. Those teacher's are getting out at the wrong time.

Does teacher pay correlate with better students results? I care much less about teacher pay numbers that don't account or cost living than I do about the production of high quality students. So is Florida's lack of pay hurt them with student outcomes?



Nope. Run along now clown.

Hmmm...

Florida coming in at #42 (That's out of 50, just in case you went to school down there.)

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Hmmm...

Florida coming in at #42 (That's out of 50, just in case you went to school down there.)

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You are better than this. What happened? Did you see something that disproved your priors and go to "I'mright.com" in a panic to try and refute it? U.S. News and World Report is the premier ranking agency for schools and education. But you came back with........ Scholaroo?

Scholaroo ventures to discover and evaluate public school rankings in the US, identifying the best and worst school systems across three factors – Student Success, Student Safety, and School Quality.

Those complete and utter horseshit ranking you just shared. And they are horseshit. Rank states across three main criteria with, with sub-criteria underneath those main ones. The heaviest weighted of the main criteria is "Student Safety" with 40 points. Second is "School quality" with with a weight of 35 points. And last is "Student success" with a weight of 25 points.

I must be an ignoramus because I always thought student success was kind of the point of education. But alas, "bullying rate" and "Bullying and Sexual Harassment Prevention" matter far more when judging the quality of an education in Bulk's eyes.

Get ****ing real Bulk. And be better.
 
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You are better than this. What happened? Did you see something that disproved your priors and go to "I'mright.com" in a panic to try and refute it? U.S. News and World Report is the premier ranking agency for schools and education. But you came back with........ Scholaroo?

Scholaroo ventures to discover and evaluate public school rankings in the US, identifying the best and worst school systems across three factors – Student Success, Student Safety, and School Quality.

Those complete and utter horseshit ranking you just shared. And they are horseshit. Rank states across three main criteria with, with sub-criteria underneath those main ones. The heaviest weighted of the main criteria is "Student Safety" with 40 points. Second is "School quality" with with a weight of 35 points. And last is "Student success" with a weight of 25 points.

I must be an ignoramus because I always thought student success was kind of the point of education. But alas, "bullying rate" and "Bullying and Sexual Harassment Prevention" matter far more when judging the quality of an education in Bulk's eyes.

Get ****ing real Bulk. And be better.
So, let’s split the difference between your #1, which you have to know is bullshit, and my #42, which you think is equally bullshit, because of the name of the ranking group (might want to research their process, though).
About 21 or 22? Sounds about right.
Any state that would appoint the clown Tony Bennett as state superintendent is already behind the 8 ball…no matter how long ago it was.

BTW, Florida ranked #42 on "Student Success" part of the ranking, which was a formula based on the following criteria (those things you mentioned were in other categories):

Student Success (25 Points)

High School Graduation Rate: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of graduates High school graduates or higher.

High School Dropout Rate: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of high school dropouts among persons 16 to 24 years old (status dropout rate).

SAT Scores: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the SAT mean scores of High School Seniors.

ACT Scores: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the average ACT score (Composite score: English, Mathematics, Reading, Science scores) of Graduates.

College-Going Rates: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of High School graduates going directly to College.

Reading Test Scores: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the Average of Scale Scores between 4th and 8th Grade Reading scores.

Math Test Scores: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the Average of Scale Scores between 4th and 8th Grade Mathematics scores.

Science Test Scores: Double Weight (2.27 points)
Note: This metric measures the Average of Scale Scores between 4th and 8th Grade Science scores.

AP Exam Participation: Regular Weight (1.14 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of graduates who took an AP exam during High School.

AP Exam Scores: Regular Weight ((1.14 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of the Class of 2021 scoring a 3 or higher on an AP exam during High School.

Students in Gifted Programs: Regular Weight (1.14 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of public students enrolled in gifted/talented programs.

Class Suspension Rates: Regular Weight (1.14 points)
Note: This metric measures the number of days missed due to suspension (per School).

Expulsion Rate: Half Weight (0.57 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of student expulsions (per school).

Retention Rate: Half Weight (0.57 points)
Note: This metric measures the percentage of 8th Grade students retained (per school).

Student Participation in Sports: Regular Weight (1.14 points)
Note: This metric measures child participates in a sports team or did he or she take sports lessons after school or on weekends, age 6-17 years.
 
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That's too bad. Those teacher's are getting out at the wrong time.

Does teacher pay correlate with better students results? I care much less about teacher pay numbers that don't account or cost living than I do about the production of high quality students. So is Florida's lack of pay hurt them with student outcomes?



Nope. Run along now clown.
You are better than this. What happened? Did you see something that disproved your priors and go to "I'mright.com" in a panic to try and refute it? U.S. News and World Report is the premier ranking agency for schools and education. But you came back with........ Scholaroo?

Scholaroo ventures to discover and evaluate public school rankings in the US, identifying the best and worst school systems across three factors – Student Success, Student Safety, and School Quality.

Those complete and utter horseshit ranking you just shared. And they are horseshit. Rank states across three main criteria with, with sub-criteria underneath those main ones. The heaviest weighted of the main criteria is "Student Safety" with 40 points. Second is "School quality" with with a weight of 35 points. And last is "Student success" with a weight of 25 points.

I must be an ignoramus because I always thought student success was kind of the point of education. But alas, "bullying rate" and "Bullying and Sexual Harassment Prevention" matter far more when judging the quality of an education in Bulk's eyes.

Get ****ing real Bulk. And be better.
Speaking of be better... Your rankings are for last year (2022) and my teacher shortage is for the 2023 school year. So are you going to make the ridiculous claim that the rankings from 2022,which included many of these same teachers who have left are not going to suffer when the schools lose some of their brightest stars, who have moved on?

You tout FLs ranking from last year, and are seemingly unable to comprehend (or at least admit) that 7,000 or so of the teachers who helped to compile that "ranking" will not be a part of the equation this year...
Meanwhile my info comes from a local Tampa Bay news station, discussing with people who have skin in the game regarding the current school year. Not some abstract ranking from US News that reflects the situation last year, before many of the measures teachers are concerned about and exiting over were actually implemented...

 
Speaking of be better... Your rankings are for last year (2022) and my teacher shortage is for the 2023 school year. So are you going to make the ridiculous claim that the rankings from 2022,which included many of these same teachers who have left are not going to suffer when the schools lose some of their brightest stars, who have moved on?

You tout FLs ranking from last year, and are seemingly unable to comprehend (or at least admit) that 7,000 or so of the teachers who helped to compile that "ranking" will not be a part of the equation this year...
Meanwhile my info comes from a local Tampa Bay news station, discussing with people who have skin in the game regarding the current school year. Not some abstract ranking from US News that reflects the situation last year, before many of the measures teachers are concerned about and exiting over were actually implemented...

Maybe he is finding out the hard way that education is important given his troubles figuring out the year in articles
 
On the topic of DEI:


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"The real issue on campuses isn’t antisemitism but the anti-Western ethos that has colonized large swaths of the curriculum. Elite schools once disdained Jews because they were seen as outsiders to Western civilization. Now they are reviled as that civilization’s very embodiment. Students explain that their hatreds come from what they learn in class—that the West is built on white supremacism and oppression. Israel is cast as the Western settler-colonialist oppressor par excellence.

The Columbia University chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine explained that “our classes regularly discuss the inevitability of resistance as part of the struggle for decolonization. We study under renowned scholars who denounce the fact that the media requires oppressed peoples to be ‘perfect victims’ ”—that is, not to commit acts of terrorism—“in order to deserve sympathy.” During a sit-in, a law student at Penn announced: “It was here where I read texts about the history of colonial regimes and the importance of decolonization. . . . I just want the university to try to do part of what it tries to teach us in the classrooms.”

A Harvard student posted on social media: “how have i read frantz fanon in no less than four classes here (writing on the violent algerian decolonial movement!!!) and yet you all side with the colonizer?” Another Harvard student: “what is WRONG with EVERYONE! This is literally a decolonization struggle before our eyes. like all of those places we learn about and have historicized and sympathize with now—algeria, south africa, haiti, more.”

Gerrymandering Jews into an “oppressed” class for DEI purposes wouldn’t do anything to prevent this classroom propaganda—which college leaders are at pains not to address. Since Oct. 7, presidents and faculty have routinely spoken of the “interconnectedness” of antisemitism and Islamophobia. A Nov. 16 lecture at Cornell University by Ross Brann, a professor of Judeo-Islamic studies, was titled “The Intersectionality of Antisemitism, Islamophobia and Racism.”

Who is found at that intersection? White supremacists, former Trump administration officials, evangelical Christians and white opponents of mass immigration from Muslim countries, to judge by Mr. Brann’s PowerPoint slides. None of these supposed oppressors play a significant role in pro-Hamas campus protests. The actual protesters—Muslims, Black Lives Matter activists, Queers for Palestine, socialist groups and proponents of the anti-Israel boycott, divest and sanctions movement—went unmentioned in the lecture. (Mr. Brann did briefly mention Louis Farrakhan as an antisemite.)

. . .

Solving the problems of higher ed requires rejecting this victim ideology wholesale. “Universities need to abandon the concept that they have a central role in moral education,” Lawrence Summers, a former Harvard president, told me. Donors and alumni should demand changes in governance and curricula to counterbalance the anti-Western ideology that undergirds the anti-Israel coalition. Every identity-based bureaucratic sinecure should be eliminated. Trustees and presidents should be chosen based on their determination to support humanistic learning and academic excellence, not “inclusion.”

Efforts to impose such changes will be fought tooth and nail. On their success hangs a civilization.
 
Per usual, moderate liberals are too late. They created and supported the runaway DEI nonsense.



You reap what you sew.
LOL at someone calling Ackman "brave" for his tweets now, years after the fact. What a narcissistic tw*t. And he only woke up (see what I did there?) when this irrational, illiberal mob started going after "his" people.

That said, the substance of his tweet is refreshing.
 
LOL at someone calling Ackman "brave" for his tweets now, years after the fact. What a narcissistic tw*t. And he only woke up (see what I did there?) when this irrational, illiberal mob started going after "his" people.

That said, the substance of his tweet is refreshing.

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LOL at someone calling Ackman "brave" for his tweets now, years after the fact. What a narcissistic tw*t. And he only woke up (see what I did there?) when this irrational, illiberal mob started going after "his" people.

That said, the substance of his tweet is refreshing.

Interesting commentary

 
Interesting commentary

I agree with a lot of what he says, except the part about leading academics taking the presidency spots. That's not a natural fit and there's no evidence it would produce better results. Administrators simply don't have the same job responsibilities as academics and research skills don't necessarily translate.

Also, the number of papers, in general, is not as important as the quality of papers. Someone who published 10 papers a year on the same subject, refining it a bit each time, isn't as valuable as someone who takes a year to publish a paper, but publishes something truly groundbreaking and original.
 
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the three presidents are really getting dragged. penn had an impromptu trustees meeting apparently. donors at the schools saying F off. how far removed from reality are these people, leaders of schools, that they are so indoctrinated in pc bullshit that they've forgotten how to just speak. these are the people you want teaching your kids....
 
the three presidents are really getting dragged. penn had an impromptu trustees meeting apparently. donors at the schools saying F off. how far removed from reality are these people, leaders of schools, that they are so indoctrinated in pc bullshit that they've forgotten how to just speak. these are the people you want teaching your kids....

Here we go...

 
We grant too many PhDs in too many areas that aren't worthy of the degree.
We grant too many degrees from associates up to PhD that aren't worthy.

I value education but not everyone is college material. That doesn't mean they don't have value. Everyone has a role to fill.
 


Can we all agree pronouns in bio is a sign of a mental illness?

Pronouns: he/they/awesomedude

Had a recent deal where my geographic contact at our lending partner had preferred pronouns in their email signature (Cali dude).

Client saw that, and immediately opted for option B, which actually had slightly inferior structure. 😄
 
Had a recent deal where my geographic contact at our lending partner had preferred pronouns in their email signature (Cali dude).

Client saw that, and immediately opted for option B, which actually had slightly inferior structure. 😄
Good decision by your partner.
 
I know it’s not right, but I am going to enjoy watching white liberal women become disposable to the left over the next several decades. They actually deserve it. Maybe DEI and all the white guilt nonsense was a bad idea.
They're not marriage material either so maybe they fade away over time.
 
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I know it’s not right, but I am going to enjoy watching white liberal women become disposable to the left over the next several decades. They actually deserve it. Maybe DEI and all the white guilt nonsense was a bad idea.
There are some things that do not deserve an answer.
 
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