Dusty May….
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i unfortunately did... bad showing.. but they did find a way to win. Past years they would have lost.
Your going to fall flat on your face and I will be here to remind you time and time again how Woodson is not a good coach. I already had a go around before the season started we had no shooting ..
It was an ugly game until late in the 2nd half but Galloway has had two games in a row now in double figures and Walker had a season-best game, nearly a double-double with 9 rebounds, that basically won the game for us. A couple of bright spots.
I really like what I am seeing from both Galloway and Walker. Get MM to keep progressing and X to return healthy and we might be cooking with something!
We are currently first place in the Big Ten. Dusty is an after thought presently.
you are welcome to and I will be glad to watch you munch on some crow... you mention that B10 will be difficult for each game... agreed... and here we are at 2-0
Galloway is averaging 11 per game and is 4-8 from 3 the last 2 games. We need him to keep his average at 10-12 and be a threat from 3 to compete in the conference.
Walker plays like what he is: a veteran. Even in the Auburn game he was competing. He's going to be valuable going forward.
This is the upgrade over Geronimo. Hope he keeps it up as well. It's very much needed.
I'm not defending IU and the careless/lethargic first half and even beginning of the 2nd, but I do give them credit for not folding and fighting at the end. I think they were aided by MS cooling off, but they showed some resilience and fight that a lot of Archie and even Crean teams didn't. The guys for the most part do seem to want to play hard for Woody and want to win; Auburn excepted.
Can't disagree. I watched very little. I had a game, recorded it. But knew IU was down at half. So I entirely skipped that shit. Fast forward most of second. Mainly watched last 4-5 minutes. Yes, they could have hung their heads, and called it a night. But didn't. That's encouraging. But th y never should have been in such a position; Morehead is really bad. And well, that's not encouraging. But a win is a win. So far we've avoided that really bad loss. Just get in to conference play, unscathed and let's see what happens.
I also disagree that MS was really bad. They had a lot of pieces: solid PG, scorer, solid 4 role player and a pretty athletic big w good athleticism and size and they are projected to win their conference. We sucked, but they were playing well and making shots in the first half. It would've taken a determined team to beat them/be ahead at half and that wasn't us. I know they got blown out by Bama, PU and Penn St, but I'd also wager they played way better vs us, and of course we helped! But, I don't think that's a bad team and expect they'll win or contend for their conference. Making the tourney for them probably depends on winning the conf tourney, but won't surprise me if they get in.
It's amazing how many teams "play well" against IU. " Just like it's amazing how many players have career 3-point shooting games against IU.
It wasn't Morehead St, it was IU. According to the boxscore, IU shot 39.7% from the field, 18.8% from 3 and 57.1% from the free throw line.
For comparison, in their game against Morehead, Purdue shot 55% on FGs, 35% on 3s, and 79% on FTs.
Anyone who watched the game realized that IU came out flat and didn't play well and missed a LOT of open shots. That's STILL this team's achilles heel after how many years? Same ole' same ole'...
Never disagreed with anything you said, as we did come out flat and definitely contributed to their success. But, I'll also bet that if you ask their coach, he'd say that was the best first half they had all year. The kid who scored all the points made some very tough shots and I thought TG had decent D on him more than once when he drained a 3. My point was, they finally regrouped and played much better for the last 10 minutes or so, and I've seen a lot of recent iterations of IU bball that wouldn't have.
Morehead State is bad. Lost to Purdue by 30...Alabama by 32...And 6-6 Penn State by 23.
They are bad
And, honestly, Morehead State is more responsible for IU's win than IU is. The Eagles s***the bed with frigid shooting the last 8 or so minutes.
We're gonna have to have a pretty stout B10 season or tourney run for there to be a March for this team unfortunately, most likely. Blew a golden opp with KU.
says the guy who admitted he didn't watch much or any of the half in question? Is NU bad, the version that got beat by Chicago St? What about the version that beat PU? How about MSU that got beat by Nebraska but then boat-raced Baylor by 20+? What about IU vs Auburn, and vs KU? I'm telling you, MS had a lot of good pieces who played well on the floor in the first half Tuesday night, and I know how they fared vs Bama, PU and PSU. They have a lot of new pieces so maybe it's taken awhile to start gelling. The center they said was a Xavier transfer and the kid who went off I think xferred from UTEP and Weber said they were eyeing or offered him at KSU. I know they had bad outings vs those other teams, but they played well in the first half Tuesday and I'm pretty sure they said are predicted to win their conference, which has produced some solid mid-major teams (OVC).
The whole shared opponent thing is always a dumb trap to fall in to. I do it a lot, most people do.
There's enough to worry about with this team, and our own comps, patterns, bad habits, etc... we don't need to introduce other examples in.
Our team has struggled against some pretty poor teams this season. MS might not end up being viewed as a poor team, but Army will, Louisville will, FGCU will... We've struggled against some really bad teams, and Morehead State, in Assembly Hall... it isn't a good look. And it naturally brings out comparisons.
I don't need to watch 40 minutes to see that Morehead State is bad. Maybe you do? I don't. Ok , Morehead State had lots of good pieces..Sure. Were they missing those same pieces when PENN STATE beat them by 23? I'll answer..
No.
Or when Purdue beat them by 30? Or when Alabama beat by them by 32?
They are not very good. Their best win is 223rd ranked Bellarmine.
This isn't hard. They looked good because..
IU isn't very good. Sugarcoat all ya want. Pick to win the or compete in the OVC. Awesome. Yeah OVC had some good teams...Ok. Name me the last one not named Murray State.
I'll wait.
And btw, I tried to be nice here. But you couldn't just let it go. And FTR, I watched tons of CBB. Just not IU, or whatever is on ESPN. Morehead State is a bad basketball team.
Transitive property is useless in sports. Me using scores of how bad MSU has been whooped, isn't a comparison...it shows how bad they are. Which is bad.
Will need to win at least 12 conference games..and those wins HAVE to include OSU, Purdue, Illinois, MSU, Wisconsin..can't just beat up on Minny, MD, or the Michigan's of the B10
Woody has a better record through his first two season than Weasel Face did at Duke. K had losing records in year 2 and again in 3 ...
It was probably due to poor roster construction, bad half time adjustments, horrible substitution patterns, not valuing shooting or guard play., Plus uncaring players without pride with bad facial expressions and him not understanding how to coach big time college basketball ...
By year three it was obvious he was not the one to lead them back to prominence and was in over his head, right? There were Duke fans just like you calling for his head on a spike.
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i would not draw that comparison at all
.. more delusional thinking on your part
Oh, we definitely have issues and play (down most often) to the level of our competition, I've never said otherwise. But, I think Morehead State was not terrible when we played them, regardless if they got thrashed by those teams. This happens to mid-majors every year and I think they'll have steady progress rising in Kenpom when they get in conference and will be right there to win it and be in the NCAA. They looked better to me than anyone we've played save for UCONN, KU and Auburn. They may have a better shot at the tourney than we do at this point!
How old was coach K and how long had he been a head coach? Woody needs to win fast, clock is ticking on his career
You seem to have this blind faith and tell everyone to watch and learn, it’s not hard to see that woody isn’t taking this program anywhere anytime soon.
True ... but still hard to gauge a coach's ability in a few seasons.
Plus after two losing seasons and missing the tourney for 3 years with a new mid major level coach who inherited a team that went to the final four previous to the year he was hired, I doubt Duke fans GAFF how old he was and probably claimed lack of experience as an issue why he was destroying the program.
It's not like Woody's 80 ... there's been quite a few successful 70 year olds .
His job is to right the ship and rebuild IU culture ... then pass it on to the next coach. If he leaves the program in a better state than it was, that's success and progress. The last few coaches failed to do this..
Let the coach, coach.
