Doing the opposite of Trump has consequences
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Please make that "Scream Team" from now on. They have nothing in common with the true Dream Team.😬
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The people wanting abortions can carpool to another state with people that want gender affirming care
It’s complicated. My daughter has a friend that hasn’t come out as identifying as a boy but dresses like a boy has a boy’s haircut and my daughter says she’s thinking about switching. She has two moms. One is the main nurse at the school. I’m a good judge of people and kids. I carpool her etc. of all of my daughter’s crowd this kid is the smartest. But at 23 she’s still so so young. They’re still babies even tho they’re technically adolescents. They cry when things go wrong. Struggle to manage emotions. On and on and on. Have you spent time with adolescents? I know you’re old and I don’t say it to challenge you but perhaps you forget how young they are still
It isn't just blockers, you tout Washington but that is gender affirming. That would be illegal in Ohio when that override happens. Other states may well ban it already. So wouldn't shutting that down be wrong?
I want a public school all feel welcome and allowed to be who they are. If they are a rabid conservative, fine. If they are gay, fine. Straight, fine. Black, fine. White, fine.
Sometimes we misconstrue celebrating gay as being accepting. Gays should not have to hide who they are any more than you or I.
As to your question, look at Matt's post. I have known 2 people who came out as gay as adults after being married. Back in the day we beat the crap out of gay kids, gays played the game and lived the lie. Is that what we want?
Will you delete your account if I show you the spike in this issue that coincided? Or is this going to be like no Dems support blm then I show you cori bush. Over and over again. Go. Away. You never add anything but yabbuts that always wrong
Being comfortable being gay and dressing how you want us a far cry from medical intervention with children
I have seen multiple sites say exactly that
Ohio House overrides governor Mike DeWine's veto of gender-affirming care ban
The law would ban types of gender-affirming care, such as surgery and hormone therapy, for those under 18 and also bars transgender girls and women from playing on women's sports teams.
www.google.com
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Gender affirming care and puberty blockers is also a far cry from permanent surgery as well but don't let that get in the way of a good rant
You keep changing the subject. You brought in your daughter's school celebrating gays. You brought in cults.
Yes the woke cult. You keep changing the subject. Explain the spike. How many times do you need to be asked?
Thank you for playing the game and providing data. See, if there is much more data like this (one study is always iffy), then it seems there is not a need for that type of care.Sounds like the suicide rate is similar with or without op...just flawed mentally due to whatever.
Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
Context The treatment for transsexualism is sex reassignment, including hormonal treatment and surgery aimed at making the person's body as congruent with the opposite sex as possible. There is a dearth of long term, follow-up studies after sex reassignment. Objective To estimate mortality...journals.plos.org
I know one "trans kid" personally. Daughter and her were playmates at Gymboree, and even played soccer together at 4 in Dallas. She now calls herself a he/him and dresses like one of those emo kids in black with blue hair and the cat-lady glasses. No surgery yet, not sure about hormones.
Kid's dad (Purdue guy) came out as gay when she was about 6. Parents got divorced. Dad now bangs dudes. Mom's been married 2 times since then...so the girl's had like 3 different "families" as her mom runs through her dudes...and she's 13.
So...yeah...in this case, probably more of an emotional reaction caused by a fuxked up childhood.
But then again, I'm not an "expert"...not a "pediatrician" that makes money cutting off teenagers racks. I'm just spit-balling.
So in the meantime let’s f with kids.Sounds like the suicide rate is similar with or without op...just flawed mentally due to whatever.
Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
Context The treatment for transsexualism is sex reassignment, including hormonal treatment and surgery aimed at making the person's body as congruent with the opposite sex as possible. There is a dearth of long term, follow-up studies after sex reassignment. Objective To estimate mortality...
I know one "trans kid" personally. Daughter and her were playmates at Gymboree, and even played soccer together at 4 in Dallas. She now calls herself a he/him and dresses like one of those emo kids in black with blue hair and the cat-lady glasses. No surgery yet, not sure about hormones.
Kid's dad (Purdue guy) came out as gay when she was about 6. Parents got divorced. Dad now bangs dudes. Mom's been married 2 times since then...so the girl's had like 3 different "families" as her mom runs through her dudes...and she's 13.
So...yeah...in this case, probably more of an emotional reaction caused by a fuxked up childhood.
But then again, I'm not an "expert"...not a "pediatrician" that makes money cutting off teenagers racks. I'm just spit-balling.
I explained the spike, you are too angry to read. We stopped beating the crap out of gays so more identify as gay. I said I knew a couple people who married women then came out as adults in their 30s. Matt had a similar tale. You start adding that back in and the spike is far lower. I don't see good numbers for adults coming out the first time.
More adults identify as gay today than ever. Everyone laughed at the Kinsey 10% value. Maybe he was right. Right now 7.1% of adults say they are gay. These aren't 15 year olds wanting to look cool, adults. Maybe the number was always 10% and people lied about who they were not to be beaten, fired, etc.
LGBT Identification in U.S. Ticks Up to 7.1%
The percentage of U.S. adults who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender has increased to 7.1%. This is driven by high LGBT self-identification, particularly as bisexual, among Generation Z adults.
news.gallup.com
What? So that’s how you explain more than 50 percent rise in KIDS? I’m not talking about adults. And Marv I’m not angry in the least. I’m doing multiple things and have a minion on fireI explained the spike, you are too angry to read. We stopped beating the crap out of gays so more identify as gay. I said I knew a couple people who married women then came out as adults in their 30s. Matt had a similar tale. You start adding that back in and the spike is far lower. I don't see good numbers for adults coming out the first time.
More adults identify as gay today than ever. Everyone laughed at the Kinsey 10% value. Maybe he was right. Right now 7.1% of adults say they are gay. These aren't 15 year olds wanting to look cool, adults. Maybe the number was always 10% and people lied about who they were not to be beaten, fired, etc.
LGBT Identification in U.S. Ticks Up to 7.1%
The percentage of U.S. adults who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender has increased to 7.1%. This is driven by high LGBT self-identification, particularly as bisexual, among Generation Z adults.
Yes it does, we undercounted before because people were terrified of finding out they were gay. If 1/2 the gays were scared to admit to being gay and are not now, where is the rise?
Do you think there was a time that is not something many would admit to?
What I think is that a significant portion of this 50-60 percent rise have cultist parents foisting it upon them. I think it’s the current milieu in woke culture. I think the rise is orchestrated not organic
But your answer does not address the rise in adults and mine does. We have always undercounted. Kinsey knew more than many gave him credit for.
BTW, numbers are up around the world and the numbers match Kinsey's 10%
Global survey finds 9% of adults identify as LGBTQ
More than 22,000 adults in 30 countries in the Americas, Europe and Asia were surveyed in February and March.
www.google.com
And if there is nothing wrong with being gay, what difference does it make that numbers are up? I don't care if someone is gay or straight any more than I care if they are left-handed or right. Once we stopped persecuting left-handers I suspect the number of left-handers went up
Born into a right-handed world, ‘lefties’ have faced persecution, struggles and triumphs
In a world dominated by right-handed people, International Left Handers Day, which is celebrated annually on Aug. 13, affords the roughly 10% of Americans who are left-handed a day of recognition. Lef...
I don’t see what connection you’re trying to make. I don’t care about adults. What’s more a rise in adults may correlate to exactly what I hypothesized re a rise in imputing care prematurely to kids. Kids rose nearly 60 percent in the two years of woke hysteriaBut your answer does not address the rise in adults and mine does. We have always undercounted. Kinsey knew more than many gave him credit for.
BTW, numbers are up around the world and the numbers match Kinsey's 10%
Global survey finds 9% of adults identify as LGBTQ
More than 22,000 adults in 30 countries in the Americas, Europe and Asia were surveyed in February and March.
And if there is nothing wrong with being gay, what difference does it make that numbers are up? I don't care if someone is gay or straight any more than I care if they are left-handed or right. Once we stopped persecuting left-handers I suspect the number of left-handers went up
Born into a right-handed world, ‘lefties’ have faced persecution, struggles and triumphs
In a world dominated by right-handed people, International Left Handers Day, which is celebrated annually on Aug. 13, affords the roughly 10% of Americans who are left-handed a day of recognition. Lef...www.durangoherald.com
How am I not explaining this well enough. It became socially acceptable to tell someone one is gay, so numbers went up. In the old days many gays waited until they could no longer lead the lie to come out. There is far less pressure to lie so more kids AND more adults come out and overall numbers go up. If we go back to firing people for being gay, adult numbers will go down.
IU is about to play Caitlin Clark University so I am out
I don’t know that answer. I do know that in some jurisdictions, a provider can be subject to suspension for counseling against transitioning.
We need to cut off the freebies because WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY!In the midst of Trump’s aggressive immigration enforcement and deportations, Denver was among the first to respond to Trump by enacting sanctuary city laws and presenting itself as a welcoming city.
In the first days of his term, Biden did a 180 on Trump’s immigration policy by ending remain in Mexico, ending the wall, ending the agreements with the Northern Triangle countries, and restarting catch and release. He also stopped enforcing the public charge rules about immigration. This is after promising during the campaign to provide health care and other benefits to illegal immigrants.
We now have millions of poorly educated, unskilled and dependent immigrants. The Democrat mantra during the Trump era that immigration is a net benefit to the United States seems like a bad joke.
Well, how does the Biden/Democrat immigration policy look now? In Denver it’s a disaster. Other cities are similar.
The Denver Budget is a wreck. It’s getting worse. Democrat officials are pleading for federal help, meaning federal money. Not federal efforts to stop the flow or send them back. (That request would be illegal under the sanctuary ordinances.). Leading Democrats have even commented that being a welcoming city has consequences.
This whole thing is a disaster at every level of government. A massive failure of policy. A failed policy based on TDS. The damage looks to be irreparable. Trump is no angel. But he had immigration right.
The sad story is in the link. Read the whole thing.
FWIW, a second source
DeWine has banned surgery through executive action, after vetoing the main bill. So clearly gender affirming was his issue.
And I believe feeling safe played A part but I also believe that the current celebratory environment and purple haired crazies push some kids and absent extreme circumstances I would limit care to counseling and education until they’re adults and I would outright ban surgeries. Cognizant of Matt’s stats above
There is no such thing as crazy parents? There aren't women out there who had a son but really wanted a daughter and now feels their desires are warranted and ethical? You can talk kids into things as an adult. It's why pedophiles are sick.
Are there religious cults we should pull kids out of?
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So because you may be able to find some sick parents, it is ok then to punish all legitimate trans kids?
Your what if also requires a failure in a Dr performing said procedure. Let's not forget that in the debate. Your fear setting requires multiple points of failure
I don't believe there are legitimate trans kids. If an adult wants to make that decision then that is one thing, but not kids. Some Doctors will perform all kinds of procedures which are not good for people. Look at these women who look horrendous after they get too much plastic surgery. Did any of those doctors say, "It is my advice that you should not get this done"? No, they take the money.
How is it possible for there to be legitimate trans adults, but no legitimate trans kids?
Spot on pastor per usual. How about buccal fat surgery. Has anyone actually looked better after a Brazilian butt lift? And don’t get me started on bleaching private areas
Might not be a bad topic for tomorrow’s sermon
Sermon is already done. I just missed a great opportunity. You know from a pastoral perspective my heart aches for people who don't accept themselves. The suicide rate for trans people is that 40% attempt it. This is whether they get surgery or not. So the real issue is far deeper. These people were created by God to be male or female at birth. They weren't assigned their gender/sex. They were created in the womb to be one or the other. The fact they can't accept themselves is very tragic. But chopping off body parts and taking drugs that changes their bodies and also their moods is not the answer.
Neither are legitimate in that they are doing the right thing. But at least the adults can be held responsible for their choices. I don't see how a 12 yr old can be. And who is going to pick up the pieces when these kids who are allowed to make life changing decisions regret it? How do you come back from chopping off body parts or taking hormones that forever changes things for your reproductive health. And don't tell me that if they get off the hormones they will go completely back to normal. That is a bunch of bunk because they have not done long term studies where it happens.
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