I agree with you, but I have not met the child. I don't know the situation. Have you met them, spoken to them?
Virtually any organized group or activity can be labeled a cult so the general term has little meaning. (Trump supporters and enablers love it, though, because it allows for a false equivalence). A cult of personality, on the other hand, is very specific and easily identifiable. Trump leads a dangerous cult of personality, one that is similar in critical respects to what happened in a number of other countries in both this century and the last as they descended into autocracy.
Bc it’s one of those issues states are intervening to protect children from cultists. There are doctors who will do anything. And do I think there are exceptional circumstances where it could make sense. Sure. But I also know numerous insane some parents who would wear it like a virtue signaling badge of honor. So you protect them and counsel the others and if hormone blockers are warranted so be it. But not surgical intervention. I read something like there was a sixty percent spike that coincided with the woke cult emergence
At one time trained professionals swore to the efficacy of lobotomies and bloodletting.
Because it ruins your argument? You say progressives are cultists, then say comparing a true religious cult is apples and oranges.
Because you can learn new and different things as your brain develops. My best friend grew up catholic. 12 years. Now he is Jewish. Sex surgery is irreversible. It hardly ruins my argument. It’s apples and oranges. As I said
Cops always talk more about stopping the serial killer, than the killer does about their crime. So this isn't any different at all.
@Marvin the Martian to this point I think Dems feign as tho it’s some figment republicans concoct. Not unlike “it’s not in schools”
www.medicalnewstoday.com
Blockers have long been used for precocious puberty. That’s materially medically different than surgery. As is a 17 year old getting blockers and a 12 year old wanting gender reassignment surgeryYou are believing mental scars are less serious than physical, I do not know that. And I am not talking normal religion, think Branch Davidians. Think Jonestown.
But to play it differently. Suicide rates among trans teens are far higher among trans? Are suicides permanent?
Trans teens face heightened risk of suicide attempts
A new study shows that transgender adolescents face a 7.6 times higher risk of suicide than their cisgender peers, emphasizing that they need better support.
I don't know that blockers and other treatments will lower that. But if we don't allow those, how will we ever know? Seriously, what would you tell a parent of a 17-year old trans that committed suicide? "Too bad, but blockers would have been worse"?
I think any parent of a trans kid should call mcm for directions prior to any decisionsYou are believing mental scars are less serious than physical, I do not know that. And I am not talking normal religion, think Branch Davidians. Think Jonestown.
But to play it differently. Suicide rates among trans teens are far higher among trans? Are suicides permanent?
Trans teens face heightened risk of suicide attempts
A new study shows that transgender adolescents face a 7.6 times higher risk of suicide than their cisgender peers, emphasizing that they need better support.
I don't know that blockers and other treatments will lower that. But if we don't allow those, how will we ever know? Seriously, what would you tell a parent of a 17-year old trans that committed suicide? "Too bad, but blockers would have been worse"?
You are believing mental scars are less serious than physical, I do not know that. And I am not talking normal religion, think Branch Davidians. Think Jonestown.
But to play it differently. Suicide rates among trans teens are far higher among trans? Are suicides permanent?
Trans teens face heightened risk of suicide attempts
A new study shows that transgender adolescents face a 7.6 times higher risk of suicide than their cisgender peers, emphasizing that they need better support.
I don't know that blockers and other treatments will lower that. But if we don't allow those, how will we ever know? Seriously, what would you tell a parent of a 17-year old trans that committed suicide? "Too bad, but blockers would have been worse"?
physicians.wustl.edu
That is gender affirming care and would have been illegal in Ohio but for DeWine.Transgender Center - Washington University Physicians
The Washington University Transgender Center provides health care for transgender and non-binary people in a welcoming, affirming environment. Services include: The Washington University Transgender Center accepts self-referrals or referrals from physicians and mental health providers. To...
Wash u will focus on education and mental health support with minors. Of course there are exceptions but imo this is the best approach. Dress how you want. Use whatever pronouns you want. At 18 do what you want.
Republicans go too far with everything. Often when things sound wrong to you it’s because they are. That’s where common sense kicks in. Again I’m okay with blockers etc. as with Wash u counseling and education until they are no longer a minor.
Ohio House has voted to override DeWine’s veto and the Ohio Senate will be voting the 24th, I believe.
Somewhere in that thread was a citation for the spike in medical intervention that coincided with woke insanity. So that tells me 1) crazy cultists imputing their bs on kids as a form of virtue signaling and/or 2) kids felt safer to pursue it. Like all things the truth lies in the middle I bet. I would err on protecting those doing irreversible harm while having the rest wait a bit. It’s not that they can’t do it. It’s wait a bit.
You need to stop assuming youngsters and adolescents know what they are doing.
See coh post above re brain development. Re suicides there are many variables so I’m not sure how telling data is. Were they with or without counseling, meds, on and on. What interests me is the spike that coincided with woke hysteria. Why did that happen? Organic or imputed? As for what to do I’d follow Wash U. Education and counseling
Gov intercedes to protect children all the time stupid. Children and family services. Court appointed special advs. schools. Add something of substance or leave. You clutter threads with your vapid shit
So it is fair to assume their parents and their mental health counselors are evil? Can we trust kids to know if they are suicidal ?
I can tell you. Unequivocally l, th
marv you have not responded to my question. Why the spike during woke? A massive spike. I can tell you unequivocally that LGBTQ is lauded at some woke schools. My 13 yr old goes to one. That it’s embraced and celebrated. So what impact does that have on impressionable kids at an impressionable station in life? And what role did that play in the spike
I think I’m okay with blockers but would need to think more about it. See my response above as to why
What month and year did that happen?
Just to be clear, if the law in question were to pass, it would ban not only medical treatment, but also gender-affirming counseling and mental care?
