Lol. You don't know any more about capitalism than your boy Biden does.
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Ok, if I trick or basically force people to get into a vehicle and transport them to another state, then there is nothing wrong with that? There definitely is in Indiana and under the federal statute. Perhaps it is unlawful restraint under Texas?
Sec. 20.02. UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly restrains another person.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the person restrained was a child younger than 14 years of age;
(2) the actor was a relative of the child; and
(3) the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the child.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that the offense is:
(1) a state jail felony if the person restrained was a child younger than 17 years of age;
(2) a felony of the third degree if:
(A) the actor recklessly exposes the victim to a substantial risk of serious bodily injury;
(B) the actor restrains an individual the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is lawfully discharging an official duty or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant; or
(C) the actor while in custody restrains any other person; or
(3) notwithstanding Subdivision (2)(B), a felony of the second degree if the actor restrains an individual the actor knows is a peace officer or judge while the officer or judge is lawfully discharging an official duty or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a peace officer or judge.
(d) It is no offense to detain or move another under this section when it is for the purpose of effecting a lawful arrest or detaining an individual lawfully arrested.
(e) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the person restrained was a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age;
(2) the actor does not restrain the child by force, intimidation, or deception; and
(3) the actor is not more than three years older than the child.
(1) "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty, by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the person. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by:
(A) force, intimidation, or deception; or
(B) any means, including acquiescence of the victim, if:
(i) the victim is a child who is less than 14 years of age or an incompetent person and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement or confinement; or
(ii) the victim is a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age, the victim is taken outside of the state and outside a 120-mile radius from the victim's residence, and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement.
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Your praising a FL governor using state $$ to fund an airline to take 50 Venezuelans from Texas and drop them on an island in MA?
And then ragging on the people that live there? (Most of the people that live on MV aren't really rich..... the people who own homes there, don't live there). After Labor Day.... like most rich enclaves, it's a ghost town of empty mansions. The full time residents actually have one of the lowest incomes of any country in the state of MA. As it's a bunch of service workers and shop owners.
Why do you think the Venezuelans are OK with being stuck on a small island off the coast of Boston, anyway? Guessing that isn't in their long-term plan, to live happily ever after on fkn Martha's Vineyard
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-rancher-finds-migrants-hiding-property-invaded
Mayor of Texas border town: Illegal immigrants hiding in resident homes, backyards
The mayor of Texas border town told “America Reports” on Monday that illegal immigrants have been hiding in the homes, backyards and patios of residents.
Per the migrants lawyer, it's been accused that they were all purposely given nonsensical addresses and told to use because it would immediately flag them and cause them to be deported.https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-rancher-finds-migrants-hiding-property-invaded
Mayor of Texas border town: Illegal immigrants hiding in resident homes, backyards
The mayor of Texas border town told “America Reports” on Monday that illegal immigrants have been hiding in the homes, backyards and patios of residents.www.foxnews.com
Even low life piece of shits say that's a hateful, low life piece of shit thing to do.
I know MAGA republicans hate immigrants but wow, you guys REALLY hate immigrants even more than you hate being called racist. 😉
Its been accused? The link you provided shows an obviously Hispanic mayor talking about what a problem this is for home owners and legal residents. I bet you haven't even seen a migrant in the last week in person but you are just so upset by all of this and swearing and wringing your hands. Go do something then. Go to the border and take a family in, bring them back to your home and be responsible for them.
Go do it!
That's COH's link, I was just replying.
Here's the video of the migrant's attorney.
In it she states they were purposely given wrong addresses to use because that will flag their paperwork.
Hilarious.
OMG THE HUMANITY! The outrage!!!.
So they called in 125 national guard troops. To handle this. Guarantee that woman didnt give a sh*t until they were in her backyard.
What about all the citizens in this country born here that struggle? Why don't you light a torch for them?
The liberal hypocrisy about this is mind numbing
Really, you guarantee that?
I do have sympathy for those who are struggling by no fault of their own.
I definitely don't fvck with them by lying and try to sabotage them to try cause them more grief, then brag about it to my friends at the country club.
You don’t even belong to a Country Club.
So what have you done to help any of these people? You never answer. You know for sure some video of an outraged lawyer from Marthas Vineyard that as I said likely speaks or reads not a word of Spanish but got an opportunity to be on TV is gospel right? Because we all know there has never been a Lawyer born that would try and take advantage for personal gain.
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Just because you'd respond that way doesn't mean others would.
The policies are inhumane and harmful….that have led to the current crisis. The people who support them simply didn’t care about the consequences….until they were affected. Oh yeah..and it had political implications. Then they cared.
And stunt or not, everyone has noticed.
I am going to be a dick. Saying that up front.
He has done what most liberals have done, voted to allow something to happen with someone else's resources. He has also let everyone know how very interested and caring he is, just like the good people of MV did with the signs about "everybody's welcome". He has spent time in forums like this letting anyone know who has a position that the type of immigration we have is unsustainable and that we need to do something about it that they only hold that position because they are racist assholes.
He is a good person.
If they showed up in his little town like happened at MV, he would provide a few dollars to a GoFundMe that would set up an endowment in case any more folks show up. For the current batch they got some clothes and blankets and such and then they were found a place to stay that wasn't here. And oh they got to rail against anyone who would send these people to a place like MV that entertains the rich and famous every summer as evil, despicable, disgusting humans who are lower than low. They quote scripture at you. "Look at the good deed we did. We are so much better than you." They dropped their nickel in the plate and passed it down the pew. "We're so good...we did the bare minimum." Something that gets done everywhere, in greater numbers, by those with less means. Then they passed them to the state to handle like a good liberal does.
They get praised for this as good people so it is of great consternation to them when you think they are hypocritical gas bags who are full of shit. Like the people on MV.
It really is incredible , every liberal poster on here is using this for a justification to be outraged about it. Did anyone die? Like Citizen Joes withdrawal from Afghanistan ? Where was the outrage then? A few people got a vacation and I seriously doubt any of them were in danger. They should have given them first class on the government bill and it would have all been just fine.
Wish I had written that!
The left doesn’t care about illegal’s being sent to MV. They are using this as a character assassination of Desantis.
Trump truthed this article yesterday. He's definitely running.
www.businessinsider.com
Running against Trump is more of a risk for DeSantis than peaking too soon, said a GOP strategist who was betting big on the Florida governor
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is the most buzzed-about Republican besides Trump, but one GOP insider said running against the former president would be a mistake.
www.businessinsider.com
That's the same for "Christians". They don't really believe in Jesus, heaven and hell. They just use that stuff for character assassination.
I'll put you down as another person who can't justify what DeSantis did as a policy decision. There's no "stunt or not", Spartan. It's obviously a stunt and the people of MV obviously cared about the people involved because they cleaned up the DeSantis mess with empathy and care. They treated the migrants DeSantis couldn't give two shits about as human beings. It's something that a few of my conservative brethren here could learn a lesson from.
I'm sick enough and honest enough to admit that were I a Pub who defended and supported anything a Pub did or said, I'd have absolutely loved what DeSantis has done in Martha's Vineyard and Abbot in DC at Harris' front door. I mean you have to admit, it's an epic pwn. I'll also admit that if a Dem had done anything equivalent (can't come up with an example off the top of my head, but whatevers) to TX or FL or MT I'd love that too.
That said, after getting my initial jollies, I'd hope that I'd take a more measured view, and understand that no matter how badass the stunt was, it really wasn't right and it was actually harmful to the situation overall, and in hindsight, after the hilarity of it all wore off, I'd come to regret my reaction and be willing to condemn the action. Not saying I would, just saying I hope I would. YMMV.
There is a right way and a wrong way to address complicated issues, and people should always be treated like human beings. There are immigration laws and a process, and they have always been around, whether Trump or Biden is the President. People like Trump and DeSantis like to pretend that they can "solve" every immigration issue, but they can't and they are just playing politics. Unfortunately, DeSantis is playing politics with human beings, which is repugnant and didn't solve anything.
I'm sure DeSantis would not like his Italian immigrant ancestors to be treated the way he has treated the people he shipped like cargo.
The "crime" would have actually occurred In Texas, so you might want to research their law rather than Florida's...For the intelligent that might be thinking, "gee, maybe there's something to this kidnapping allegation," there are many reasons that allegation is far-fetched, but here is Florida's statute (shocker--it's not the same as Indiana's because no, not all state criminal statutes are alike):
The 2022 Florida Statutes
Title XLVI
CRIMESChapter 787
KIDNAPPING; CUSTODY OFFENSES; HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND RELATED OFFENSESView Entire Chapter 787.01 Kidnapping; kidnapping of child under age 13, aggravating circumstances.—
(1)(a) The term “kidnapping” means forcibly, secretly, or by threat confining, abducting, or imprisoning another person against her or his will and without lawful authority, with intent to:
1. Hold for ransom or reward or as a shield or hostage.
2. Commit or facilitate commission of any felony.
3. Inflict bodily harm upon or to terrorize the victim or another person.
4. Interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function.
Not saying it qualifies as "kidnapping", but these folks came from detention centers in Texas...
Which brings up a point that might be relevant to FL law, and you might check that...
Specifically the FL legislature approved $12 Million in appropriations for a fund to allow DeSantis to relocate immigrants from Fl to another area/state. But the question is does that extend to using FL taxpayer funds (American Rescue Plan funds) to move immigrants from Texas to MA?
Well the Mayor of Martha's Vineyard did make a move to actually help the underprivileged in Florida.
What DeSantis did WAS a legitimate policy statement and action and decision.
By sending immigrants to claimed "sanctuaries" for immigrants, he GRAPHICALLY pointed out the "unfairness" of expecting 4 states to shoulder the burden of broken, politicized federal immigration policy - especially illegal immigration - while liars in government elsewhere criticize these states without helping, and while virtue signaling and falsely claiming they would serve and protect illegal immigrants FROM HIM and all other Deplorables.
Which 4 states are you talking about? I do not see more recent official numbers, here are numbers from 2019:
Illegal immigrants in the U.S., by state | Statista
In 2019, California had the highest population of unauthorized immigrants, at around 2.74 million.
www.statista.com
Florida, Texas, Arizona and CaliforniaWhich 4 states are you talking about? I do not see more recent official numbers, here are numbers from 2019:
Illegal immigrants in the U.S., by state | Statista
In 2019, California had the highest population of unauthorized immigrants, at around 2.74 million.
That link worked when I went to it, but since has been paywall blocked.Which 4 states are you talking about? I do not see more recent official numbers, here are numbers from 2019:
Illegal immigrants in the U.S., by state | Statista
In 2019, California had the highest population of unauthorized immigrants, at around 2.74 million.
ImmigrationRoad.com - Green Card, Visa, Citizenship
ImmigrationRoad.com is a resource center for immigrants seeking to study, work or live the US.
immigrationroad.com
Top states with undocumented aliens
| California | 2,200,000 | 5.60% | 20% |
| Texas | 1,600,000 | 5.70% | 33% |
| Florida | 775,000 | 3.80% | 18% |
| New York | 725,000 | 3.60% | 15% |
| New Jersey |
This idea isn't new, it was used in 1962.
Not you also Crazy using this, I'm sorry but sub dumb argument (where it's not just dumb, it's beyond dumb....it's sub dumb).
First off I don't know what I'd do if there was massive amounts of immigrants coming down from Canada. I might actually let them stay in my house if the current immigration facilities were out of space.
I actually might.
Saying 'why don't you move to Texas and go help' is the equivalent of telling someone to go to Ukraine, grab a gun and join the fight when they say they are pissed about Putin attacking Ukraine and bombing hospitals.
Also please let me know if any lib that has thrown any shade for someone not offering their private residence to foster immigrants.
That's a very stupid expectation which blows up the nonsensical hypocrisy claim you guys are trying to make.
Sorry man.
I am assuming the people who made the list didn't actually read the books.
Then why couldn't he corral enough immigrants in Florida to fill the plane? My guess is his state's employers (eg, agriculture) needed those who were there. You should add Desantis to your list of government liars.
Being an asshole to and using the less fortunate is never a good look. It is incredibly selfish and displays poor character to do anything you want to in order to make a "statement." I don't pretend to buy homeless people lunch or give them money and then tell them to go get a job.
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Just another baseless stretch to call Republicans racists.
Figiured you were better than that.
Sometimes the job requires you to be an asshole. This was one of those times.
You aren't reading between the lines very well. If one is going to do a political stunt that carries no real value, checking to see if racists/nazis/communists have done it before. Just pointing out he did not consider those optics.
