DeSantis stock goes up
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I feel really good when you call me ignorant, because I know I’m right on target. When a Trumper tells someone else they’ve lost it… well the irony is indeed thick.
The twisting into a pretzel you do to make a point. Governor does an absolutely despicable thing. Anyone with an ounce of character admits this. The place where they are sent welcomes them, feeds them, supports them, and finds them shelter. And you think this reflects dishonesty by Democrats. Get a massage tomorrow to get that pretzel undone. My word.
I’m not sure many if the kids that were forcibly separated from their parents thought they were treated well.
If you want to know why this country is totally fkd beyond repair.... just read this thread.
Nothing exists in govt anymore other than punking your opponent.
We're all fkd
Nothing exists in govt anymore other than punking your opponent.
We're all fkd
This isn’t hard. Fix the border or we’ll bring the border to you!
Ron Desavage
Ron Desavage
Too early. Let it play out a couple weeks (will MA take jurisdiction?) and give some odds (Desantis does have a few inherent advantages).
The welcoming residents of Martha’s Vineyard kicked all of them off the island.
No, they didn't. That's just a damn lie. The residents of the island provided them with emergency shelter and relief, and then the governor of Massachussetts stepped in and coordinated more permanent housing for them.
And food. And temporary shelter. And arranging a mass for them.
Wow! I’m impressed. Did they do those things while taking a break from polishing the chrome on their yacht?
I really doubt very many of those residents own yachts. They do pretty well from tourism, but they are more likely to care for the yachts than own them.
So now it's cause celebre for 'conservatives' to rag on the wealthy?
I will put an end to that.
Let's raise their taxes so we can afford more judges to hold detention hearings quicker
There, now all we will hear is how the wealthy are atruists creating jobs for everyone.
Michael Penix has turned into Michael Vick once he got out of Bloomington
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Whose quality of life? Where? In Florida? Texas? Do you have some links or something to show this destroyed quality of life?
I have a lot of friends in Texas. I'd say about 50% are die-hard Republicans. None have said anything to me about their quality of life being destroyed there. In fact, most are bragging about how great it is and chiding me that I never should have left.
*Phone rings*
A: This is Governor Abbott.
D: Greg, it's Ron. How you doing?
A: Fine, you?
D: Great. But I have a problem. I really want to get on this TV action you've been getting, but Immigration isn't releasing enough migrants in my state for me to round up and ship somewhere. Can I borrow some of yours?
A: You gonna pay for it?
D: Well, the Florida taxpayer is!
*Laughter on both ends*
A: Alright, sure. Send some guys over to arrange it. I'll give them contact info for the best bus companies.
D: Actually, I had something else in mind...
That must have been a nice change of pace after being kidnapped.
Wow you seem jealous of people with money. I thought you guys were all about capitalism ?
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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For the intelligent that might be thinking, "gee, maybe there's something to this kidnapping allegation," there are many reasons that allegation is far-fetched, but here is Florida's statute (shocker--it's not the same as Indiana's because no, not all state criminal statutes are alike):
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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And here is Massachusetts:For the intelligent that might be thinking, "gee, maybe there's something to this kidnapping allegation," there are many reasons that allegation is far-fetched, but here is Florida's statute (shocker--it's not the same as Indiana's because no, not all state criminal statutes are alike):
The 2022 Florida Statutes
Title XLVI
CRIMESChapter 787
KIDNAPPING; CUSTODY OFFENSES; HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND RELATED OFFENSESView Entire Chapter 787.01 Kidnapping; kidnapping of child under age 13, aggravating circumstances.—
(1)(a) The term “kidnapping” means forcibly, secretly, or by threat confining, abducting, or imprisoning another person against her or his will and without lawful authority, with intent to:
1. Hold for ransom or reward or as a shield or hostage.
2. Commit or facilitate commission of any felony.
3. Inflict bodily harm upon or to terrorize the victim or another person.
4. Interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function.
Section 26: Kidnapping; weapons; child under age 16; punishment
Section 26. Whoever, without lawful authority, forcibly or secretly confines or imprisons another person within this commonwealth against his will, or forcibly carries or sends such person out of this commonwealth, or forcibly seizes and confines or inveigles or kidnaps another person, with intent either to cause him to be secretly confined or imprisoned in this commonwealth against his will, or to cause him to be sent out of this commonwealth against his will or in any way held to service against his will, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than ten years or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars and imprisonment in jail for not more than two years.Put down the drinks and weed for the rest of the night, you have obviously had more than enough.
The Florida statute is irrelevant. If they were kidnapped, they were kidnapped in Texas. Since they were transported across state lines, federal criminal law might also apply.For the intelligent that might be thinking, "gee, maybe there's something to this kidnapping allegation," there are many reasons that allegation is far-fetched, but here is Florida's statute (shocker--it's not the same as Indiana's because no, not all state criminal statutes are alike):
The 2022 Florida Statutes
Title XLVI
CRIMESChapter 787
KIDNAPPING; CUSTODY OFFENSES; HUMAN TRAFFICKING; AND RELATED OFFENSESView Entire Chapter 787.01 Kidnapping; kidnapping of child under age 13, aggravating circumstances.—
(1)(a) The term “kidnapping” means forcibly, secretly, or by threat confining, abducting, or imprisoning another person against her or his will and without lawful authority, with intent to:
1. Hold for ransom or reward or as a shield or hostage.
2. Commit or facilitate commission of any felony.
3. Inflict bodily harm upon or to terrorize the victim or another person.
4. Interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function.
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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Are you honestly giving credence to this?
F*ck no. Just being a pedant.
FD: I used "perhaps kidnapped" in an early post about this thread, but I meant it in the vernacular, not legal sense.
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Texas law:
Sec. 20.03. KIDNAPPING. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the abduction was not coupled with intent to use or to threaten to use deadly force;
(2) the actor was a relative of the person abducted; and
(3) the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the victim.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree.
Sec. 20.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty, by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the person. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by:
(A) force, intimidation, or deception; or
(B) any means, including acquiescence of the victim, if:
(i) the victim is a child who is less than 14 years of age or an incompetent person and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement or confinement; or
(ii) the victim is a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age, the victim is taken outside of the state and outside a 120-mile radius from the victim's residence, and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement.
(2) "Abduct" means to restrain a person with intent to prevent his liberation by:
(A) secreting or holding him in a place where he is not likely to be found; or
(B) using or threatening to use deadly force.
Sec. 20.03. KIDNAPPING. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the abduction was not coupled with intent to use or to threaten to use deadly force;
(2) the actor was a relative of the person abducted; and
(3) the actor's sole intent was to assume lawful control of the victim.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree.
Sec. 20.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty, by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the person. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by:
(A) force, intimidation, or deception; or
(B) any means, including acquiescence of the victim, if:
(i) the victim is a child who is less than 14 years of age or an incompetent person and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement or confinement; or
(ii) the victim is a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age, the victim is taken outside of the state and outside a 120-mile radius from the victim's residence, and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement.
(2) "Abduct" means to restrain a person with intent to prevent his liberation by:
(A) secreting or holding him in a place where he is not likely to be found; or
(B) using or threatening to use deadly force.
When the wealthy loudly brag that “All are Welcome Here” and further make a big deal out of their 2017 anti-Trump sanctuary policy and then kick a few brown people off their island and out of their midst, you are damned right I’m gonna rag on them. Just who in the hell do they intend to welcome with their fancy wokeness if it’s not these immigrants? They make me sick not only because they kicked out the immigrants, but because they made a big deal out of their virtue which virtue turns out to be a fraud.
Hell I didn’t even see any pro- immigrant protesters urging that these immigrants deserved jobs and should remain on the island.