Democrat Men

[IU_Hickory]

Dems are making this election about the personalities, not the issues. I bet a third of the voting populace doesn’t know the proposed policy differences, but bases their ultimate decision on personality and outward physical appearance. These people will decide the winner. Just the fact that Harris is relatively young, female and has an infectious laugh will garner herself a bunch of extra votes. When Bill O’Reilly worries, I worry. He’s starting to have doubts. He claims the election will be decided by the poll numbers taken 5 days after the debate. If Trump comes across as a vindictive, cranky old man and Kamala a relatable naive, but likable candidate as “one of us”, then the country, as we once knew of it, is screwed for generations to come.

It could easily be said that Trump is making the election about personalities/looks vs the actual issues.

The big issue of the month for Trump is saying Harris isn't black. That's talking about some important issues there lmao.

Now he is whining about being talked about at the DNC. He is laser focused on the issues.

 

[Stuffshot]

How would you like to be Trump’s CPA? Only one client needed!

That's the way it usually works -- but not always:

Trump's accounting firm resigns, saying his financial disclosures should "no longer be relied upon"

Former President Trump's accounting firm cut ties with Trump last week, saying his financial disclosures from 2011-2020 can no longer be relied upon.

abcnews.go.com

And, of course, that one dream client needs to, well, pay you in a timely manner:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/trump-giuliani-begged.html .

 

[mcmurtry66]

America has become soft and gullible and quite frankly they do not pay attention to reality.

Wife has a employee who signed out for a 15 minute break, after an hour they started looking for her. They found her coming up from the cafeteria. They did some investigating, she signed out at 8:45 and back in at 9:07 then left the floor went to the cafeteria ordered breakfast walked past the cashier and sat down and ate. I said wow HR should fire her now for a minimum of stealing. They didn't because she is a minority, how fvcked is that? The softest stance I've ever seen ever.

ha! those are called tote'n wages.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Dont lecture us about party leadership. Trump won primaries. Harris never won any.

So? There is nothing illegal or wrong about switching candidates. If voters don't like the switch, then they can sit out the general election.

Trump is just scared to run against a real opponent.

 

[BradStevens]

I think you are correct with most of this. Of course this has nothing to do with actually being president. Maybe they can pull the job off with Kamala in The Oval with marketing and communication sleight of hand, but I don’t think so. The U.S. is in unmistakable decline.

I'm pegging the date to 2003 and the invasion of Iraq.

 

[Stuffshot]

Yeah - he has his name on a lot of stuff. It's hard saying how much he's a part of all that, especially since he's spent the better part of the last decade campaigning for president and taking up space in the West Wing.

And it's hard telling how deeply he's involved in all those types of deals. A friend in Chicago told me that he doesn't have much to do with the Trump tower there other than his name being on the building. I don't know though.

That said, you could also make three other very distinct lists, probably just as long if not longer:

• the number of businesses he's bankrupted.
• the number of lawsuits he's lost or settled for not paying and/or screwing people over
• and the number of things Paris Hilton and the Kardashians have their names on/tied to.

You can make a lot of money just from naming rights, but we all want to know: (1) does Trump have a significant ownership interest in each of those items on the list? and (2) does each of those items have positive cash flow and significant owners equity?

 

[mattndallas]

 

[mcmurtry66]

You can make a lot of money just from naming rights, but we all want to know: (1) does Trump have a significant ownership interest in each of those items on the list? and (2) does each of those items have positive cash flow and significant owners equity?

he has so much shit through so many various arrangements who knows. he owns the course in miami but international in west palm he doesn't own the land. the county did. he leased it. so who the hell knows considering how much stuff he has amassed

 

[BadWakeboarder]

Then don't respond.

How about giving him something worth responding to or take your circle jerk to Zoom?

 

[snarlcakes]

Whatever the Harris team is doing it's genius. There's never been a presidential campaign launch like this in American history. They've got some highly-skilled strategists, marketing and communications people behind the scenes who, whatever they're being paid, aren't being paid enough. The messaging and delivery have been flawless. The Fiserv/United Center blend the other night was one of the most masterful things I've ever witnessed in politics.

She will win the election by an electoral vote margin at least equal to Biden's in 2020. I'm sure they're already lining up a top legal team and planning the post-election strategy that will be necessary to combat Trump's "It was rigged and I was robbed!" bullshit including pro-Trump election officials refusing to certify votes at the state and local level.

lol....it's just propaganda and you're easily influenced. I'll bet you she doesn't win more electoral votes.

 

[76-1]

i have no idea the valuations of below but it's a considerable amount of shit - much w/ shared interests etc, but nevertheless

Golf Courses + Resorts Owned & Managed by TRUMP
Domestic:
Trump International Golf Club, Palm Beach
Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter
Trump National Golf Club, Washington D.C.
Trump National Doral, Miami (Hotel + Golf)
Trump National Golf Club, Colts Neck
Trump National Golf Club, Westchester
Trump National Golf Club, Hudson Valley
Trump National Golf Club, Bedminster
Trump National Golf Club, Philadelphia
Trump National Golf Club, Los Angeles
Trump National Golf Club, Charlotte
International:
Trump International Golf Links, Aberdeen (Hotel + Golf)
Trump International Golf Links & Hotel, Doonbeg, Ireland (Hotel + Golf)
Trump Turnberry (Hotel + Golf)
Golf Courses Developed + Managed by TRUMP
Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point
Golf Courses Managed by TRUMP
Trump International Golf Club, Dubai
Trump World Golf Club, Dubai
Indonesia – Coming Soon
Hotel Properties Owned & Managed by TRUMP
Trump International Golf Links, Aberdeen (Hotel + Golf)
Trump International Golf Links & Hotel, Doonbeg, Ireland (Hotel + Golf)
Trump National Doral, Miami (Hotel + Golf)
Trump Turnberry (Hotel + Golf)
The Albemarle Estate at Trump Winery (Hotel)
Trump International Hotel & Tower New York
Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago
Trump International Hotel, Washington D.C.
Hotel Properties Owned in Partnership & Managed by TRUMP
Trump International Hotel Las Vegas – Partners with Phil Ruffin
Hotel Properties Managed by TRUMP
Trump SoHo New York
Trump International Hotel & Tower Toronto
Trump Ocean Club, Panama
Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver – Coming Soon
Trump Hotel Rio de Janiero – Coming Soon
Bali – Coming Soon
Lido – Coming Soon
Commercial Properties Owned by TRUMP
40 Wall Street
Trump Tower
Commercial Space currently occupied by NikeTown
Two shopping centers in NYC
Retail which spans the entire block on Third Avenue btw 61
st – 62
nd Street
Retail on the Corner of Central Park South and Avenue of the Americas
Commercial Properties in partnership with TRUMP
1290 Avenue of the Americas in partnership with Vornado
555 California Street in partnership with Vornado
Commercial Properties Licensed & Operated by TRUMP
The Wollman Rink
The Lasker Rink
The Landmark Carousel, Central Park
Commercial Properties Branded by TRUMP
Trump Towers Rio – Coming Soon
Gurgaon, India – Coming Soon
Additional Properties Owned by TRUMP
Trump Vineyard Estates, Charlottesville, VA
The MaraLago Club, Palm Beach, Florida
The Estates at Trump National Los Angeles
Le Chateau Des Palmiers, St. Martin
Trump Seven Springs, Bedford NY
Townhouses adjacent to Trump Plaza, New York City
Two private homes in Palm Beach adjacent to The MaraLago Club
Two townhouses at Trump National Golf Club, Washington D.C.
Private home in Beverly Hills
The Macleod House, Scotland
Residential Properties Developed/Owned by TRUMP
The properties below were all built or developed by Mr. Trump and remain tremendously successful
today. In most cases, Trump retained ownership of the commercial spaces and/or continues to
manages the properties to the highest levels of luxury. Additionally, Mr. Trump does own sponsor
units in select buildings listed below, however the majority of the condominiums in the buildings have
been successfully sold out.
Trump Tower
Trump World Tower
Trump Parc
Trump Parc East
Trump Park Avenue
610 Park Avenue
Trump Palace
Trump Place
Trump Plaza
Trump International Hotel & Tower New York
Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago
Trump International Hotel Las Vegas
Residential Properties Branded & Managed by TRUMP
Trump Tower at City Center
Trump Plaza New Rochelle
Trump Plaza Residences Jersey City
Trump Parc Stamford
Trump Parc Residences, Yorktown
Residential Properties Branded by TRUMP
Trump Tower at Century City, Philippines
Trump Hollywood, FL
Trump Towers, Sunny Isles, FL
Trump World, Seoul, Korea
Trump Towers Istanbul (Resi, Office + Retail)
Trump Estates, Dubai
Trump Bay Street, Jersey City
Trump Tower Mumbai
Trump Towers Pune
Trump Tower Punta del Este
Indonesia – Coming Soon
Entertainment Endeavors Owned By Trump
Trump Models
Trump Books
The Apprentice & Celebrity Apprentice (owned in partnership with Marc Burnett)
Trump Restaurants
Trump Ice
Miscellaneous Merchandise Licenses
Apparel & Accessories, Eyewear Designs, Fragrance, Furniture, Home, Coffee etc..
Corporate Aircrafts owned by TRUMP
Boeing 757, Cessna Citation X, 3 Sikorsky Helicopter

He's got not only my vote for being several hundred times more competent than Commiela (and more importantly: certain to bring a far more competent administration along with him) but now, thanks to you Mac, he has my "sympathy vote" as well... The poor guy has obviously never accomplished anything....😉

The reality is, to me at least, that Trump
is often a moronic sounding asshole, who literally in spite of his personality, has consistently been able to somehow attract very intelligent people to work for him both outside and inside of government... I'm counting on him to be able to do that again...

Kamalas future administration: a disaster waiting to happen, that will more than likely double down on every error Ol'Joes team made and possibly get us into WW3 thru shear incompetence...

The Democrats appeasing Iran at every turn is pretty much all you need to know about their approach to foreign policy...

 

[Harry Hondo]

I’ve seen people like Walz described as HickLibs.

“I own a gun, I have a camo hat, I must share your values”

Like Trae Crowder. He's a comedian known as the "redneck liberal." He's from Tennessee grew up dirt poor, with a mom who was a crackhead.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Like Trae Crowder. He's a comedian known as the "redneck liberal." He's from Tennessee grew up dirt poor, with a mom who was a crackhead.

View embedded media

“Comedian”

 

[abraxis]

It could easily be said that Trump is making the election about personalities/looks vs the actual issues.

The big issue of the month for Trump is saying Harris isn't black. That's talking about some important issues there lmao.

Now he is whining about being talked about at the DNC. He is laser focused on the issues.

Trump made one comment questioning her true ethnicity. I’ve seen photos of her family and if she calls herself black, I’m Mr Pink with my finger on the stink.

Trump’s made thousands of comments regarding the economy, the outrageous price increases resulting from 12 of the last 16 years under liberal leadership. It’s the media you hear constantly harping on the one comment. Do you really think your preposterous claim is “the big issue of the month”? Maybe it is over at MSNBC, merely as fodder for the blind lemmings, the low information voters. Over here in my camp, she’ll always be eggplant to us.

 

[Harry Hondo]

“Comedian”

Well, he has to be a liberal because we all know conservatives aren't very funny.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Trump made one comment questioning her true ethnicity. I’ve seen photos of her family and if she calls herself black, I’m Mr Pink with my finger on the stink.

Trump’s made thousands of comments regarding the economy, the outrageous price increases resulting from 12 of the last 16 years under liberal leadership. It’s the media you hear constantly harping on the one comment. Do you really think your preposterous claim is “the big issue of the month”? Maybe it is over at MSNBC, merely as fodder for the blind lemmings, the low information voters. Over here in my camp, she’ll always be eggplant to us.

And you think dems never talk about issues? Maybe you should be looking at your own propaganda feed before spouting off shit on a forum.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Well, he has to be a liberal because we all know conservatives aren't very funny.

Not on this board. Conservatives are a much more entertaining crowd - would be way more fun out

 

[76-1]

The reality is that Kamala would not be the Democratic candidate if:
(A) she wasn't already part of the Biden/Harris ticket therefore allowing her to legally continue to access the Biden campaign war chest $$$$$$$$$$, and
(B) the media hadn't assured the DNC at some level that they'd not only polish her up and front for her, but become complicit in helping hide her flaws from the general public as a whole...

The woman is a babbling moron whose only known accomplishment was maneuvering thru California politics by using any means necessary...

In my opinion, anyone who wants to trust the Leadership of the nation to Kamala in these trying times is either a fool, or..., somewhere deep down, at some level, actually hates themselves and the rest of the country as a whole...

 

[abraxis]

And you think dems never talk about issues? Maybe you should be looking at your own propaganda feed before spouting off shit on a forum.

At the DNC, for three nights all they’ve spouted out is the “joy” she brings. How can they talk about needing to address policy changes when her party has been in charge 80% of the last two decades of decadence?

 

[Harry Hondo]

Not on this board. Conservatives are a much more entertaining crowd - would be way more fun out

Are you kidding me? Would you have more fun at the DNC in Chicago this week or the RNC in Milwaukee last month? I'm betting the hot spots in Chitown are rockin this week. You think the music industry and Hollywood crowd doesn't know how to party?

Btw, only you guys think you're more entertaining. The rest of us find it to be sophomoric most of the time.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Are you kidding me? Would you have more fun at the DNC in Chicago this week or the RNC in Milwaukee last month? I'm betting the hot spots in Chitown are rockin this week. You think the music industry and Hollywood crowd doesn't know how to party?

Btw, only you guys think you're more entertaining. The rest of us find it to be sophomoric most of the time.

If given the choice between partying with The Hulkster, Dana White and Kid Rock or Oprah, Keenan Thompson and Spike Lee. I think most would make the correct decision.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Are you kidding me? Would you have more fun at the DNC in Chicago this week or the RNC in Milwaukee last month? I'm betting the hot spots in Chitown are rockin this week. You think the music industry and Hollywood crowd doesn't know how to party?

Btw, only you guys think you're more entertaining. The rest of us find it to be sophomoric most of the time.

I would love a night out with Dana white and hulk hogan. No comparison

 

[mcmurtry66]

If given the choice between partying with The Hulkster, Dana White and Kid Rock or Oprah, Keenan Thompson and Spike Lee. I think most would make the correct decision.

Dana white!

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Dana white!

I believe the Hulkster is sober these days unfortunately.

 

[hoosboot]

Harris is good at something, and that was setting herself up in California politics; and we know she just didn’t use her mind in that effort.

That's a sad and small comment by you, but it's not just that...it's also completely wrong.

I understand people disagreeing with her policy positions, but these claims that she didn't actually do important jobs and do them well are in no way connected to reality.

 

[hoosboot]

i know lawyers personally who worked on the trump international development. they met with him and he was involved. of course he has an army of support and he isn't driving the bus on all of that but i do know/believe in his prime years the guy was a workaholic and involved. he's a teetotaler and strange. and yes he had a massive war chest. that makes things more doable.

i have ownership interests in six businesses. all enjoying varying degrees of failure. i'm actively involved in 2. sort of involved in 2. and just contributed money in two. i am on my phone 16 hours a day. it's why i can check here constantly. i'm never not looking at my phone. so what i have have is a drop in the ocean to his and it still takes tons of support and of course he couldn't do it without an army of support and wealth. but he has still amassed an incredible amount of shit. and as evidenced by his inability to procure a surety he's not very liquid

People who say someone like Trump is dumb are just fooling themselves. Sure, he says stupid things, but most people say stupid things. Harris and Trump are not dumb. Like most people, there are things that they are good at and things they are bad at. Personally, I don't find the things that Trump is good at to be a good fit for the United States Presidency, but I get that mileage varies for different people.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

That's a sad and small comment by you, but it's not just that...it's also completely wrong.

I understand people disagreeing with her policy positions, but these claims that she didn't actually do important jobs and do them well are in no way connected to reality.

I know a little about how attorneys in large government offices work. While there are some variations, those official attorneys don’t do any particular job. Highly competent professionals do the job and the official attorneys sign the press releases. We all watched her performance as VP and it was highly insignificant.

 

[mcmurtry66]

People who say someone like Trump is dumb are just fooling themselves. Sure, he says stupid things, but most people say stupid things. Harris and Trump are not dumb. Like most people, there are things that they are good at and things they are bad at. Personally, I don't find the things that Trump is good at to be a good fit for the United States Presidency, but I get that mileage varies for different people.

Agree re trump’s skill set and a poor fit.

 

[hoosboot]

I know a little about how attorneys in large government offices work. While there are some variations, those official attorneys don’t do any particular job. Highly competent professionals do the job and the official attorneys sign the press releases. We all watched her performance as VP and it was highly insignificant.

With all due respect, what you watched about "her performance as VP" gives you as much insight into her skills as what watching Murder She Wrote gives you into how to produce a television show.

 

[Ohio Guy]

How about giving him something worth responding to or take your circle jerk to Zoom?

Eh...I was making a point of how I thought Trump came to political prominence. Him being and idiot and being followed by morons is sort of baked into the equation, as far as I'm concerned. Sorry if that hurt people's feelings.

 

[dr.jb]

Perhaps, but if you actually look at her stances and policies, she is a WORSE candidate from a Democratic perspective. She's wildly left of Biden, who's Administration already operated further left than Joe did his entire senatorial career. On top of that, she hasn't said a substantive thing in her life.

Dems are rallying around her because: 1) she's a female, 2) she's a POC and 3) she's less pro-Israel than Biden and other potential candidates (though not enough for many protestors).

4). she's not trump

 

[CO. Hoosier]

With all due respect, what you watched about "her performance as VP" gives you as much insight into her skills as what watching Murder She Wrote gives you into how to produce a television show.

If that true, she needs to fire her entire public relations staff.

 

[abraxis]

Harris is good at something, and that was setting herself up in California politics; and we know she just didn’t use her mind in that effort.

Biden picking her bor VP is nowhere near an accomplishment. Biden sticking it out until he was exposed as senile is not her accomplishment. She is where she is because of circumstances beyond her control The Democrats (all of them) have settled on “joyfulness” to win the election. Thats the best they got. She has no record or demonstrable skills to be president.

You focus too much on money to measure Trump. His occupation requires the ability to make decisions, manage complicated endeavors, negotiate, and use creativity and imagination to accomplish anything. He has some very successful and beneficial projects in his background. Others not so much.

Harris’ early “connection” with Willie Brown to jumpstart her political career certainly lends credence to the old saying, “Once Black, Never Back!” I bet she bowed down on bended knees before him in worship of his schlong at 8” long, thick as a brick. What woman, Black, White or Eggplant wouldn’t?

 

[hoosboot]

If that true, she needs to fire her entire public relations staff.

I'm quite certain that it's true and it has zero to do with public relations staff.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

It’s all very odd. Just six months ago people were saying Biden should switch out Harris. She’s a liability on the ticket. Now same person, no major interviews, no debates, nothing, is suddenly this exciting inspirational candidate. Bizarre

It really is just age. She presents the alternative to Trump voters crave, but she's not already half in a coffin.

Any other opponent, she'd be getting smoked right now. There's nothing inspirational about her.

 

[hoosboot]

Harris’ early “connection” with Willie Brown to jumpstart her political career certainly lends credence to the old saying, “Once Black, Never Back!” I bet she bowed down on bended knees before him in worship of his schlong at 8” long, thick as a brick. What woman, Black, White or Eggplant wouldn’t?

Trying to fill the role vacated by DBE?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I'm quite certain that it's true and it has zero to do with public relations staff.

Ok. I guess one thing she learned from her VP experience is that she isn’t competent enough to meet the press in an unscripted open-ended manner.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Harris’ early “connection” with Willie Brown to jumpstart her political career certainly lends credence to the old saying, “Once Black, Never Back!” I bet she bowed down on bended knees before him in worship of his schlong at 8” long, thick as a brick. What woman, Black, White or Eggplant wouldn’t?

You certainly have a unique prose.

 

[hoosboot]

Ok. I guess one thing she learned from her VP experience is that she isn’t competent enough to meet the press in an unscripted open-ended manner.

Well...that's what you would guess, but that has a lot more to do with you than with her.

 

[Harry Hondo]

Ok. I guess one thing she learned from her VP experience is that she isn’t competent enough to meet the press in an unscripted open-ended manner.

I'm willing to give her a several week grace period. It was just a month ago she learned that she'd be the nominee. Most get several months to prepare for the position and aren't thrown into service just three months from the election. After the convention she'll need to start talking to the press.