Darian DeVries Thoughts
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I’m packing away my Dads IU Letterman’s jacket and ring as we speak. All IU action photos of him playing are coming down today too. IU basketball is now back where it was the day they fired RMK in my household. I was having serious considerations of setting up a scholarship at IU in my Dads name and funding it by donating the majority of his estate… ( retired as senior VP at John Hancock ) that’s over too. I will be reaching out to Dolsen to give a piece of my mind. What an incompetent joke for the last 30 years
Wishful thinking.
I warned this forum about this. Dolson was never in the know. He had tunnel vision and thought he had him locked up.
Every hiring cycle is the same. I actually think many of the rumors are always true, that is if you listen to IU. Our admin never has their pulse on reality and does a late casting of a net and scramble.
My son is the video replay official at UE. He has seen DeVries many times. He mentioned DeVries early but speculation was if DeVries left WVU it would be for Iowa as many expected McCaffrey to be fired. My son set his hopes on McCollum with DeVries likely going somewhere else.
My opinion is he is a good college coach. Same question as Archie, can he recruit? Can he be the elite college coach we want. He did beat Gonzaga and played UL close after we got killed by those two teams in the same tournament in his first year. It tells me he had a better team early in his first year than Woodson had after 4 years.
Perhaps some of the players threatened to quit if DeVries wasn't hired. That has been the criteria in the past.
DeVries built the program that McCollum was able to coach this year. In a league that often omnly gets one NCAA bid, DeVries took Drake to 3 NCAA t hasn't any success in the tournament, so that remains to be seen how that will turn out.
I'm going to wait and see. The first step is to build a roster. Sisley has posted a positive statement. I would guess he has reached out to Trent and will be meeting him in the next few days. I'll feel better when we have retained our two recruits and start add to the roster.
The negative people need to chill. Bob Knight wasn't always the coach we knew.
Not an airport. No need to announce your departure
Ya know, i've seen more than one person post similar sentiment regarding Drake/McCollum/DeVries so I decided to look into that and after a cursory glance I don't think it's the case Bud. This year's 24/25 McCollum led Drake team is nearly 100% turned over from last year's 23/24 Devries led team. DeVries didn't leave anything behind when he left Drake, this year's Drake team is all McCollum.
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Who knows, DeVries may end up a good get for us, but man it sure doesn't seem like it. To me it seems like more of the same.
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IU has had good teams and never won the BG10 Tournament. There’s something to be said for consistency
Some real drama queens and stupid takes in this thread. Apologies in advance if I'm talking to 13 year old girls.
And you’re not the boss so you don’t need to make smart ass comments. Internet made everyone a smart ass 🙄
So you were OK with McCollum but not DeVries? Goodman says Dolson talked with McCollum a couple times, and ended up at DeVries. Maybe McCollum took his name out, but I sort of doubt it. DeVries wanted IU over IA, so I would assume McCollum would too. I like what I've heard overnight on After Dark and other podcasts: tireless worker, who will get shooters and who's team will play D. Had his team legit qualified for the tournament with one of his 2 best players playing 8 games, and that guy is coming with him. Everyone loved SD after hiring Cig, I'd say give it a couple weeks and see what the guy does. He has the opportunity right now to make a lot of hay between our roster, WVU's, their recruits and the players who can enter the portal from teams losing their coaches, and a big NIL bankroll to play with. I think like UK and Lville, the roster dominoes are going to start to fall pretty quickly.
As much as many of us set our sights on McCollum....it just may be that McCollum passed on IU....like so many other coaches have. We aren't the end all, be all.....not even close.Ya know, i've seen more than one person post similar sentiment regarding Drake/McCollum/DeVries so I decided to look into that and after a cursory glance I don't think it's the case Bud. This year's 24/25 McCollum led Drake team is nearly 100% turned over from last year's 23/24 Devries led team. DeVries didn't leave anything behind when he left Drake, this year's Drake team is all McCollum.
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Who knows, DeVries may end up a good get for us, but man it sure doesn't seem like it. To me it seems like more of the same.
Considering this is coach number 7 for the 2000's, it's been painfully obvious we aren't the end all/be all regardless of who got the job.
It’s not just a question of whether or not McCollum used players from DD rosters. The state of the program matters significantly. DD left him a winning culture. Do you think it matters if the prior 6 yrs had a winning % over 70%? Would McCollum have even gone to Drake if it was not a highly successful program? I think IU fans know as well as anyone that culture matters.Ya know, i've seen more than one person post similar sentiment regarding Drake/McCollum/DeVries so I decided to look into that and after a cursory glance I don't think it's the case Bud. This year's 24/25 McCollum led Drake team is nearly 100% turned over from last year's 23/24 Devries led team. DeVries didn't leave anything behind when he left Drake, this year's Drake team is all McCollum.
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Who knows, DeVries may end up a good get for us, but man it sure doesn't seem like it. To me it seems like more of the same.
Chris Beard and Scott Drew have everything they need to be successful right where they are at. Any speculation that either would leave for IU (or hardly any other job) was wishful thinking
Don’t like the Devries hire at all. But I wasn’t sold on Cignettii either so maybe it turns out to be a good hire
Don’t like the Devries hire at all. But I wasn’t sold on Cignettii either so maybe it turns out to be a good hire
It would be really interesting if we would know all the ins and outs of how this panned out. Who did SD reach out to? Who did he actually talk to? Who was interested and who wasn't? Did SD want someone in place before the portal opened up or was he willing to wait on others to finish their season?
Most of the time, we don't get the advantage of knowing these things, other than rumors.
Most of the time, we don't get the advantage of knowing these things, other than rumors.
I'm not a psychic, I have no idea how good we'll be but this less than exciting. He appears to be likeable and safe.
I was so happy to get rid of archie and we got someone worse last time. Its nice to get rid of woodson but I will not jump for joy until I can see what this guy can do on the court. I learned my lesson last time. If we had hired someone like drew or beard I would be pretty excited but we did not.
With IU basketball as the case study and the last 25 years as the teacher, the lesson that we all should've learned by now is that "culture" travels with the HC. It doesn't get left behind as some sort of magical talisman or heirloom for the next HC. IU has spent the last 25 years and 5 coaching searches "settling" after their first several options fell through, all the while watching whatever "culture" that existed falling by the wayside.
When McCollum leaves Drake, will his ghost and the ghost of DeVries lure another coach who can match their success or will they revert back to being just another small program going through the perfunctory motions in the MVC? I reckon it will be the latter.
I really don't have an opinion on who our coach is..... the bottom line.... INHO.... is that the NCAA (an extension of the NBA) has ruined College Basketball as we used to know it... way back in the day.
I'm the old school fan of college basketball as it was played in the 40-70's
Everybody called it boring... so they instilled the Shot Clock. All that did was force teams to hurry up... so they just took the methodical way of breaking down the defense of the other team.... to be able to score against them. It was called strategy.
The only Strategy that I see in today's game is dribble (excuse me... I meant to say Palm the Ball) around for 20 seconds and then drive the lane to get cheap bumping fouls called. If a person likes this type of basketball... more power to them. Not my Cup of Tea and I have to struggle through it every season.
If you like NBA style basketball.... GO WATCH NBA BASKETBALL,
I'm the old school fan of college basketball as it was played in the 40-70's
Everybody called it boring... so they instilled the Shot Clock. All that did was force teams to hurry up... so they just took the methodical way of breaking down the defense of the other team.... to be able to score against them. It was called strategy.
The only Strategy that I see in today's game is dribble (excuse me... I meant to say Palm the Ball) around for 20 seconds and then drive the lane to get cheap bumping fouls called. If a person likes this type of basketball... more power to them. Not my Cup of Tea and I have to struggle through it every season.
If you like NBA style basketball.... GO WATCH NBA BASKETBALL,
What is really ruing college bbal is the NIL. These now are nothing more than paid professionals. There are no longer student athletes
Ah yes, I'm sure you had all the players' GPA's memorized every year. I'm sure being a student was always so very important to you.
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My thoughts:
Welcome to Bloomington!!! (you poor bastard)...
NCAA Final in year 1 or you're only a half step ahead of the tar and feather crowd...
No Pressure (at least you've been made aware of the standards and expectations)
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Welcome to Bloomington!!! (you poor bastard)...
NCAA Final in year 1 or you're only a half step ahead of the tar and feather crowd...
No Pressure (at least you've been made aware of the standards and expectations)
🍺🏀🍺
😎
Don't think it was a matter of Beard not wanting to leave Ole Miss as IU wasn't willing to take him.
WTF? You missed an opportunity to say: "Fact is, mister, you start screwin' up this team, I'll personally hide-strap your ass to a pine rail and send you up the Monon Line!"
Think he'd say "leave the ball, will you George?
Devries?
To borrow an oft- used phrase here over the years:
“All Aboard!!”
And, “What are we drinking tonight?”
Champagne and cigars for me!
So woodson and his cigars has he left the building yet? I am guessing he will never ever set foot in assembly hall again.
Beard would come to IU. Pitino basically said so
Yeah drilling into his record a bit more.
The good news about this hire is his adherence to McDermott's offensively philosophy which is consistently in the top % but that he's also shown he's better defensively.
So expect teams than can shoot, will shoot and with more transition threes. Hopefully his one year at WVU was a outlier, like you pointed out his metrics are very up and down but at Drake leaned offense and where he had some good shooting teams. He's shown his team can D up at this level, hopefully the offense follows.
Though yesterdays disappointment still lingers, I'm warming up to the hire. The main thing I hate is that stupid f*cking canned defense but it really depends how much of the Bennett rules he uses. From what I'm seeing, he doesn't geld them like Miller and Bennett did by not allowing transition threes above the FT line extended.
The best thing about this hire is it's not Chris Beard. Of that I'm highly grateful.
Milquetoast is the word I've been trying to think of. I think he's the 7th best coach in the Big Ten. That's before the weight of the fanbase and all of the resources crushes his soul? Your thoughts?
I think probably like 22-12 most years. Mostly make the tourney but likely never go super far. He was the safe no skeletons hire which is very important to IU. They may want to win championships but only with guys who have zero baggage.
Nothing like ND football, they’ve won at a high level this century…dumb.
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