Perhaps some of the players threatened to quit if DeVries wasn't hired. That has been the criteria in the past.Does well at Drake in a small conference, loses 13 games his first year at W Va...and lands the Indiana job?
Perhaps some of the players threatened to quit if DeVries wasn't hired. That has been the criteria in the past.Does well at Drake in a small conference, loses 13 games his first year at W Va...and lands the Indiana job?
DeVries built the program that McCollum was able to coach this year. In a league that often omnly gets one NCAA bid, DeVries took Drake to 3 NCAA t hasn't any success in the tournament, so that remains to be seen how that will turn out.I don't know that much about DeVries, but McCollum seems to have a little more swagger, possibly. I think we need someone who can "wow" people to IU, possibly convince Mullins to change his mind on UConn. I don't put a whole lot into rumors but when they start firing off from all directions.......
Not an airport. No need to announce your departureOff to a new team. Good luck everyone.
DeVries built the program that McCollum was able to coach this year. In a league that often omnly gets one NCAA bid, DeVries took Drake to 3 NCAA t hasn't any success in the tournament, so that remains to be seen how that will turn out.
I'm going to wait and see. The first step is to build a roster. Sisley has posted a positive statement. I would guess he has reached out to Trent and will be meeting him in the next few days. I'll feel better when we have retained our two recruits and start add to the roster.
The negative people need to chill. Bob Knight wasn't always the coach we knew.
IU has had good teams and never won the BG10 Tournament. There’s something to be said for consistencyIt seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.
I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.
1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.
2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.
3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.
I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?
Almost unbelievable. Some people need to walk away.Some real drama queens and stupid takes in this thread. Apologies in advance if I'm talking to 13 year old girls.
And you’re not the boss so you don’t need to make smart ass comments. Internet made everyone a smart ass 🙄Not an airport. No need to announce your departure
So you were OK with McCollum but not DeVries? Goodman says Dolson talked with McCollum a couple times, and ended up at DeVries. Maybe McCollum took his name out, but I sort of doubt it. DeVries wanted IU over IA, so I would assume McCollum would too. I like what I've heard overnight on After Dark and other podcasts: tireless worker, who will get shooters and who's team will play D. Had his team legit qualified for the tournament with one of his 2 best players playing 8 games, and that guy is coming with him. Everyone loved SD after hiring Cig, I'd say give it a couple weeks and see what the guy does. He has the opportunity right now to make a lot of hay between our roster, WVU's, their recruits and the players who can enter the portal from teams losing their coaches, and a big NIL bankroll to play with. I think like UK and Lville, the roster dominoes are going to start to fall pretty quickly.And you’re not the boss so you don’t need to make smart ass comments. Internet made everyone a smart ass 🙄
As much as many of us set our sights on McCollum....it just may be that McCollum passed on IU....like so many other coaches have. We aren't the end all, be all.....not even close.Ya know, i've seen more than one person post similar sentiment regarding Drake/McCollum/DeVries so I decided to look into that and after a cursory glance I don't think it's the case Bud. This year's 24/25 McCollum led Drake team is nearly 100% turned over from last year's 23/24 Devries led team. DeVries didn't leave anything behind when he left Drake, this year's Drake team is all McCollum.
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Who knows, DeVries may end up a good get for us, but man it sure doesn't seem like it. To me it seems like more of the same.
As much as many of us set our sights on McCollum....it just may be that McCollum passed on IU....like so many other coaches have. We aren't the end all, be all.....not even close.
It’s not just a question of whether or not McCollum used players from DD rosters. The state of the program matters significantly. DD left him a winning culture. Do you think it matters if the prior 6 yrs had a winning % over 70%? Would McCollum have even gone to Drake if it was not a highly successful program? I think IU fans know as well as anyone that culture matters.Ya know, i've seen more than one person post similar sentiment regarding Drake/McCollum/DeVries so I decided to look into that and after a cursory glance I don't think it's the case Bud. This year's 24/25 McCollum led Drake team is nearly 100% turned over from last year's 23/24 Devries led team. DeVries didn't leave anything behind when he left Drake, this year's Drake team is all McCollum.
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Who knows, DeVries may end up a good get for us, but man it sure doesn't seem like it. To me it seems like more of the same.
I was so happy to get rid of archie and we got someone worse last time. Its nice to get rid of woodson but I will not jump for joy until I can see what this guy can do on the court. I learned my lesson last time. If we had hired someone like drew or beard I would be pretty excited but we did not.I'm not a psychic, I have no idea how good we'll be but this less than exciting. He appears to be likeable and safe.
It’s not just a question of whether or not McCollum used players from DD rosters. The state of the program matters significantly. DD left him a winning culture. Do you think it matters if the prior 6 yrs had a winning % over 70%? Would McCollum have even gone to Drake if it was not a highly successful program? I think IU fans know as well as anyone that culture matters.
What is really ruing college bbal is the NIL. These now are nothing more than paid professionals. There are no longer student athletesI really don't have an opinion on who our coach is..... the bottom line.... INHO.... is that the NCAA (an extension of the NBA) has ruined College Basketball as we used to know it... way back in the day.
I'm the old school fan of college basketball as it was played in the 40-70's
Everybody called it boring... so they instilled the Shot Clock. All that did was force teams to hurry up... so they just took the methodical way of breaking down the defense of the other team.... to be able to score against them. It was called strategy.
The only Strategy that I see in today's game is dribble (excuse me... I meant to say Palm the Ball) around for 20 seconds and then drive the lane to get cheap bumping fouls called. If a person likes this type of basketball... more power to them. Not my Cup of Tea and I have to struggle through it every season.
If you like NBA style basketball.... GO WATCH NBA BASKETBALL,
Ah yes, I'm sure you had all the players' GPA's memorized every year. I'm sure being a student was always so very important to you.What is really ruing college bbal is the NIL. These now are nothing more than paid professionals. There are no longer student athletes
Don't think it was a matter of Beard not wanting to leave Ole Miss as IU wasn't willing to take him.Chris Beard and Scott Drew have everything they need to be successful right where they are at. Any speculation that either would leave for IU (or hardly any other job) was wishful thinking
Don’t like the Devries hire at all. But I wasn’t sold on Cignettii either so maybe it turns out to be a good hire
WTF? You missed an opportunity to say: "Fact is, mister, you start screwin' up this team, I'll personally hide-strap your ass to a pine rail and send you up the Monon Line!"you're only a half step ahead of the tar and feather crowd
Devries?It seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.
I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.
1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.
2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.
3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.
I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?
Maybe he is who knows. We will find out next November
So woodson and his cigars has he left the building yet? I am guessing he will never ever set foot in assembly hall again.Devries?
To borrow an oft- used phrase here over the years:
“All Aboard!!”
And, “What are we drinking tonight?”
Champagne and cigars for me!
It tells me he had a better team early in his first year than Woodson had after 4 years.
Beard would come to IU. Pitino basically said soChris Beard and Scott Drew have everything they need to be successful right where they are at. Any speculation that either would leave for IU (or hardly any other job) was wishful thinking
Don’t like the Devries hire at all. But I wasn’t sold on Cignettii either so maybe it turns out to be a good hire
Beard would have come in two seconds its been reported as such.Beard would come to IU. Pitino basically said so
Yeah drilling into his record a bit more.His metrics numbers seem very up and down. Don't love that. I don't know why I'm letting all these smokey rumors do this to me...but for some reason it does seem like DD might be the guy. And the little I've read up on him today, the packline info you just shared, etc... NOT a huge fan of this hire, if it happens.
The IU prez said the students want to winI fully expect beard will kill it and make a final four in the near future. This was not the hire that is going to excite the fan base after four years of Woodson. Devries will have win and win fast get the fans fully engaged again after the last eight years.
And in four years IU will be in this same position again. DeVries is the ultimate milquetoast hire and shows definitively that IU does not want to win a championship.
I think probably like 22-12 most years. Mostly make the tourney but likely never go super far. He was the safe no skeletons hire which is very important to IU. They may want to win championships but only with guys who have zero baggage.Milquetoast is the word I've been trying to think of. I think he's the 7th best coach in the Big Ten. That's before the weight of the fanbase and all of the resources crushes his soul? Your thoughts?
Nothing like ND football, they’ve won at a high level this century…dumb.we're like ND football but only about 1/10th as self righteous
Go be an Ole Miss fan and take up the righteous cause for Beard. Clearly there was enough on Beard that Dolson was uninterested after looking into him. Beard inherited a better situation than Devries and had a worse outcome in his first year. I'm optimistic.I think probably like 22-12 most years. Mostly make the tourney but likely never go super far. He was the safe no skeletons hire which is very important to IU. They may want to win championships but only with guys who have zero baggage.
I think Woodson's practices were 20 minutes on, 10 off, 20 on.WTF? You missed an opportunity to say: "Fact is, mister, you start screwin' up this team, I'll personally hide-strap your ass to a pine rail and send you up the Monon Line!"
Think he'd say "leave the ball, will you George?