Yeah and that experience I shared about my visit today at IU Health. Just a couple of quick questions asked - no temps being taken. I could have easily lied my way into that place.
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I will confess that I bought a significant amount of beer on Tuesday. A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. And a box of elbow macaroni, since it seemed wise. I can’t recall when I last bought a box of elbow macaroni. I’m not sure what we’ll do with it.
We all know you’re making fun of him but he probably thinks you finally “get it”.
This is my favorite Hank post in quite some time, and that's saying something.
Fantastic article from the Toronto Star about how "ignorant accidental hero" Rudy Gobert saved America:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/2020...it-up-and-take-notice-of-the-coronavirus.html
But one giant Frenchman acted like the virus was a flu, or a hoax, or just another report on the evening news that become the TV in the diner in the first reel of the disaster movie, if you thought about it. And he got the virus, and sports went kablooie, and so many other things followed.
By denying reality, Rudy Gobert forced reality onto centre stage, and closed Disneyland. He probably saved lives.
By denying reality, Rudy Gobert forced reality onto centre stage, and closed Disneyland. He probably saved lives.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/2020...it-up-and-take-notice-of-the-coronavirus.html
Yes, Pelosi is selfishly pushing for free testing. Damn her and her partisan hackery!
You know damn well that isn't the only thing she's pushing for. Stop being a partisan hack for once in your life.
I know nothing of the sort, and I laugh at you calling me a partisan hack. I'm a partisan for sure, but you know damn well I'm not a hack.
Trudeau in self-isolation; his wife tested positive.
This whole planet is poised to just shut down for a month.
This whole planet is poised to just shut down for a month.
Sounds about right. They all said it was expensive. A big group of the girls weren’t in bed but at the bars, so you can imagine the level of hysteria of drunk girls going home to pack and get to the airport.
Of course not. You’re clearly the only one who does. The entire planet is taking steps to mitigate the spread of this but you’re absolutely certain that none of it necessary.
Read the response/update of the SG PM from a couple of days ago. (Its also an election year here)
https://www.gov.sg/article/pm-lee-hsien-loong-on-the-covid-19-situation-in-singapore
Spot the diff.
And I dont particularly like the overall job he has done since coming into office. But in a crisis...
This is essentially WWIII. With regards to the degree in the change in normalcy. May lead to the next generation of baby boomers.
As of this past Tuesday people who sit within earshot were still calling COVID-19 the flu. I worked from home on Wednesday and got a message that one of the people in the conversation was hacking, coughing and talking to people. I ended up talking to the Director of IT; I'm working from home indefinitely unless there are meetings that I absolutely have to attend (there aren't).
Oh, this is at the University of Cincinnati.
What is crazy is how Republicans that know better ate ignored. DeWine in Ohio is far from a liberal Democrat, yet he was one of the first governors to pull the plug on "life as normal".
I heard this morning how the lack of testing is breeding a lot of this. Elected officials have to assume a worst case scenario. Indiana has 100 tests, as of yesterday they have used 64. It is very difficult to get a test in Indiana because of the triage required by the lack of tests. I assume the rest of the country is similar.
Our unwillingness to confront this early on makes it harder to confront it now.
Trump has been obsessed with keeping numbers low. HHS is run by lackeys looking to please Trump above all. This is a disaster because this is how the Trump administration is run. I hope leaders like DeWine can do work at local levels to dull the impact. There is no leadership at the top.
Here is a recent example:
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My assumption is that these are girls in the 18-23 age range, but they are a view into the difficulty there is in controlling the spread without almost enforcing a complete lockdown of the country. They are in Europe, some you said in Italy, which are basically areas at, or approaching, the peak curve of the virus and they were out drinking in a bar.
I said earlier in the week that there is a little bit of mass hysteria going on right now. My wife stopped by the grocery to pick up a few things last night and it was a madhouse.
Our system is broken. People will always look at the Presisent as being the problem. I am starting to view that much more differently. Congress is the biggest issue and our completely unserious media is right up there with them. They are the constant. People do not trust either of them and they both continue to fail us.
Stay home as much as possible, if you are young, avoid contact with the sick and elderly as much as possible. And lord help us when we are being run by 500 some odd people who cannot get together to address a public health crisis without playing stupid politics with the bill. There is no such thing as adult governance in this country anymore, not at the Federal level. If you believe otherwise or think it is solely or majorly the fault of those guys, you are dead wrong too. We're a country of morons run by idiots.
You don’t think a POTUS who lies constantly and has no credibility is an issue?
Martha is probably in deep dodo with Fox for asking those questions; she's not keeping with the party line.
It was subliminal. Bending the elbow is slang for drinking a lot, and you bought a "SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT" of beer. Your brain knew you were planning to bend the elbow, and saw the macaroni and knew it had to have it.
Yep, we're operating in the dark without widespread testing (and we probably could have really slowed this thing if we had been properly prepared.).
And just saying "whelp, don't get tested unless you're sick enough to have to go to the hospital" will probably seed more panic.
But we needed a businessman in Washington and a change from the norm. And then there was that bitche’s emails.
I saw that being replayed this morning. Vera at least got in her mandatory Trump praising.
The girls at the bar weren’t in Italy, they were Barcelona. The Italy girls were already home. But they were the ones that should have been tested at the airport, or at the very least their temps taken. Not for their health but for spreading it. Trump said everyone coming into the country was being tested, but a big group comes in from Italy and no one is even asked a question? And there is definitely mass hysteria at stores. But then again, it happens every time we are expecting an inch of snow.
Don't worry, Jared asked Karlie Kloss' dad (Karlie's married to Kushner's brother and Karlie's dad is an ER doc) to get him recommendations
Why are these people flying around attending security meetings in person, and having photo ops? Have they never heard of video conferencing?
Good news on the testing front
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...e-for-coronavirus-test-that-s-10-times-faster
The U.S. and much of Europe have been criticized for testing their populations too slowly, allowing the virus to proliferate. Roche’s cobas systems, launched in 2014, are widely available globally, with 695 of the 6800 instruments and 132 of the 8800 systems already installed.
There are 110 of these tools in the U.S., and Roche has installed a “significant amount” of new ones in key locations in the U.S. in recent weeks, Schinecker said. Roche declined to specify how many of those units are 8800 and how many are 6800 models.
“We definitely extended the capacity of the testing significantly throughout the U.S,” Schinecker said.
The cobas 8800 system can test patients about 10 times faster than Roche’s existing test for the coronavirus, which runs on its MagNA Pure 24 and the LightCycler 480 devices. While those instruments require more human attention, there are more of them in labs and hospitals around the world. They’ll continue to play a crucial role in testing people, especially outside the U.S., Schinecker said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...e-for-coronavirus-test-that-s-10-times-faster
The U.S. and much of Europe have been criticized for testing their populations too slowly, allowing the virus to proliferate. Roche’s cobas systems, launched in 2014, are widely available globally, with 695 of the 6800 instruments and 132 of the 8800 systems already installed.
There are 110 of these tools in the U.S., and Roche has installed a “significant amount” of new ones in key locations in the U.S. in recent weeks, Schinecker said. Roche declined to specify how many of those units are 8800 and how many are 6800 models.
“We definitely extended the capacity of the testing significantly throughout the U.S,” Schinecker said.
The cobas 8800 system can test patients about 10 times faster than Roche’s existing test for the coronavirus, which runs on its MagNA Pure 24 and the LightCycler 480 devices. While those instruments require more human attention, there are more of them in labs and hospitals around the world. They’ll continue to play a crucial role in testing people, especially outside the U.S., Schinecker said.
That raises an interesting question, how recent. I was about to post this link to a Max Boot column. He says in it that the US ran 6 tests on Tuesday. 6 tests, how is that possible if we have all this capability? Boot also said this:
Who could have predicted that Trump would be such an incompetent crisis manager? Pretty much everyone, actually. Yet nearly 63 million Americans voted for him anyway — and the Republican-controlled Senate refused to convict and remove him in January for his impeachable conduct. The entire country is now paying for those colossally irresponsible decisions as we face the worst crisis since 9/11 under the bungling leadership of the worst president in modern times.
Great, so we are back to complaining about the failed impeachment process. Do you want to seriously discuss this or not?
I don't know who the hell Max Boot is, but perhaps he is looking at the CDC-only test data, which gets updated for several days before it becomes final (gray box data subject to changes). It does not account for private lab tests.
Boot has been copy / pasting his articles for 4 years now. But you're right. Trump should learn from this and go ahead and start manufacturing tests for the next virus we don't know exists yet.
South Korea is testing 10,000 per day. Why are they able to do that and not us.
If you Google it, you will see we turned down WHO test kits because we thought we could do better. Then our kits did not work. So we spent a couple weeks doing nothing,,then we built kits. We are way behind the rest of the world.
