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I’m very confident we could cut 30% of the government and none of us would notice.

Let's start with firing all the public school teacher leeches. My property taxes are ridiculous and I pay for my kids school out of pocket. I wouldn't notice if they were gone
 
Let's start with firing all the public school teacher leeches. My property taxes are ridiculous and I pay for my kids school out of pocket. I wouldn't notice if they were gone
Have at it. I’d end up making more money doing something else or start up a private business teaching. I’m not scared to compete in a free market. I’d also add I’m for school choice and think it’s ridiculous you have to pay all the tuition out of pocket.
 
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What's funny is your naivete if, in fact, you actually believe what you wrote.

Musk almost certainly negotiated his "keys to the kingdom" (a/k/a DOGE) position in exchange for his $250 million contribution to "Uncle Sam."

I'll say it again. Musk - - unelected, unvetted, not required to make financial disclosures, richest man in the world, biggest US government contractor, biggest Trump donor, no accountability. Trump says he expects Musk to self-report any conflicts of interest. Hilarious.
Musk isn’t the issue. The issue is a bloated, secretive, and corrupt government operated by arrogant, unelected, and unaccountable know-nothings. Making war on Musk is a nothingburger but it’s all you got. The Democrats have nothing.
 
Pollsters don't make predictions.

They tell you the results of a certain sample at a certain point in time.
Ok, what did their polls “tell us” about the Presidential election last year. You know where I’m going, & I know why you’re being evasive. The best case is that their polls are proven to be inaccurate, could be for many reasons. Worst case is that they are intentionally so to push an agenda, narrative, etc. Blows my mind that there are people up in arms about trying to cut bloat & unnecessary spending, but it is typically either the people that benefit from the fleecing or those only focused on the who & not the what.
 
Of course we’re going to see improvement. The U.S. government is the largest institution on the planet ever. It spends 7 f#cking trillion dollars a year and somehow made Nancy Pelosi and the dude below incredibly wealthy.




I’m very confident we could cut 30% of the government and none of us would notice.
No you couldn't. You can't cut 30% without touching SS, Defense, Medicare, or Welfare
 
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No you couldn't. You can't cut 30% without touching SS, Defense, Medicare, or Welfare

It's amazing how out of touch with reality most everyone is on budget matters.

30% cut would basically be the entire discretionary budget. $1.7T.

We're already at all time lows in discretionary federal spending.


In contrast to total spending, discretionary spending has declined since FY1962 as a percentage of
GDP. Discretionary outlays are projected to be 6.3% of GDP, near an all-time low, in FY2024.


Discretionary Spending in 10 Graphs - CRS Reports
 
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It's amazing how out of touch with reality most everyone is on budget matters.

30% cut would basically be the entire discretionary budget. $1.7T.

We're already at all time lows in discretionary federal spending.


In contrast to total spending, discretionary spending has declined since FY1962 as a percentage of
GDP. Discretionary outlays are projected to be 6.3% of GDP, near an all-time low, in FY2024.


Discretionary Spending in 10 Graphs - CRS Reports
So it shouldn’t be looked at with the goal of reducing or eliminating waste & frivolous spending?
 
So it shouldn’t be looked at with the goal of reducing or eliminating waste & frivolous spending?

Sure go for it. It's a massive distraction. But if it makes you feel good

Look over there! We're doing something!

It won't be anything but a rounding error at best.
 
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Sure go for it. It's a massive distraction. But if it makes you feel good

Look over there! We're doing something!

It won't be anything but a rounding error at best.
You prefer doing nothing then, got it. I, however believe that if they can free up billions for programs that help Americans, or eliminate billions in spending, that’s a good thing. What is it costing us?
Do you or the company you work for by any chance receive monies from USAID?
 
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Musk isn’t the issue. The issue is a bloated, secretive, and corrupt government operated by arrogant, unelected, and unaccountable know-nothings. Making war on Musk is a nothingburger but it’s all you got. The Democrats have nothing.

What part specifically is bloated? Be specific.

I already posted the research that shows we're spending less on actual govt than at any point since the early 1960s. 6.4% of GDP in 2024.

So is that really the problem? Bloated govt?

Or is it that we've created a system of massive transfer payments to the general public funded via the national credit card. Voters have bought themselves money and they like it.
 
You prefer doing nothing then, got it. I, however believe that if they can free up billions for programs that help Americans, or eliminate billions in spending, that’s a good thing. What is it costing us?
Do you or the company you work for by any chance receive monies from USAID?

No. What a moronic response.


Quit being a douche canoe.
 
I’ll quit being a douche canoe if you quit being a little bitch about Elon Musk stirring the pot & eliminating waste.

WTF is wrong with you? You'd think I called your wife fat or something saying mean things about Elon. Your comeback is 'do you work for USAID'? How amazingly lame is that....

I said go for it. I also said it's a distraction. Shiny blinking lights for small minded dolts.

You seem to fit the mold. Go away
 
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Don't hold you breath. These are the kind of responses you see to him looking at Medicare.

That will be interesting if they can identify exactly how much Medicare, SS and SNAP fraud there is and implement controls.

I actually have no earthly idea. Is it a billion? 500 billion? No one wants to touch entitlements, but we can all agree with booting the freeloaders.
 
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That will be interesting if they can identify exactly how much Medicare, SS and SNAP fraud there is and implement controls.

I actually have no earthly idea. Is it a billion? 500 billion? No one wants to touch entitlements, but we can all agree with booting the freeloaders.

I know it's been touched on before here... But VA disability is ripe with abuse.

The VA budget is now almost half the size of DOD budget. A lot of it considered 'mandatory' spending that's on autopilot.

But who's ever going to touch that?
 
WTF is wrong with you? You'd think I called your wife fat or something saying mean things about Elon. Your comeback is 'do you work for USAID'? How amazingly lame is that....

I said go for it. I also said it's a distraction. Shiny blinking lights for small minded dolts.

You seem to fit the mold. Go away
It’s not shiny blinking lights at all. It’s accountability and even if it’s part perception so what. I’m amazed by the default gov defense posture by some of you. I have zero doubt it’s bc of trump hate.

Find waste and fraud in mandatory. Great. As for discretionary the third or whatever outside of defense that goes to fund agencies and programs audit the shit out of it. We’re already finding billions devoted to nonsense programs. They’ve been identified throughout threads here.

And no the gov already does this isn’t adequate. We have actual outsiders with a far different ideology and philosophy looking at this shit now.

This is great stuff. And if they come back and say we weren’t able to cut that much or find that much waste great. That will assuage the lousy perception of gov many have today. This is a win win and what we want from gov. Compared to Biden trump and the goose steppers. Mercy.
 
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I know it's been touched on before here... But VA disability is ripe with abuse.

The VA budget is now almost half the size of DOD budget. A lot of it considered 'mandatory' spending that's on autopilot.

But who's ever going to touch that?
Abusive spending isn’t mandatory
 
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It’s not shiny blinking lights at all. It’s accountability and even if it’s part perception so what. I’m amazed by the default gov defense posture by some of you. I have zero doubt it’s bc of trump hate.

Find waste and fraud in mandatory. Great. As for discretionary the third or whatever outside of defense that goes to fund agencies and programs audit the shit out of it. We’re already finding billions devoted to nonsense programs. They’ve been identified throughout threads here.

And no the gov already does this isn’t adequate. We have actual outsiders with a far different ideology and philosophy looking at this shit now.

This is great stuff. And if they come back and say we weren’t able to cut that much or find that much waste great. That will assuage the lousy perception of gov many have today. This is a win win and what we want from gov. Compared to Biden trump and the goose steppers. Mercy
People bitching about something that costs them nothing, claim that nothing will be accomplished or if so will only be a rounding error, but has the potential to do some amount of good, while calling other people dolts is next level irony @twenty02 .😂
 
People bitching about something that costs them nothing, claim that nothing will be accomplished or if so will only be a rounding error, but has the potential to do some amount of good, while calling other people dolts is next level irony @twenty02 .😂
The fcking pentagon can’t pass an audit. No idea where it’s money is going.
 
It’s not shiny blinking lights at all. It’s accountability and even if it’s part perception so what. I’m amazed by the default gov defense posture by some of you. I have zero doubt it’s bc of trump hate.

Find waste and fraud in mandatory. Great. As for discretionary the third or whatever outside of defense that goes to fund agencies and programs audit the shit out of it. We’re already finding billions devoted to nonsense programs. They’ve been identified throughout threads here.

And no the gov already does this isn’t adequate. We have actual outsiders with a far different ideology and philosophy looking at this shit now.

This is great stuff. And if they come back and say we weren’t able to cut that much or find that much waste great. That will assuage the lousy perception of gov many have today. This is a win win and what we want from gov. Compared to Biden trump and the goose steppers. Mercy.


It's bullshit because we've already done this shit many, many, many times. About every ten years this comes up.

We know where the money is going. We know why we have debt problems. This isn't a difficult problem to actually finding the answer. It's a very difficult problem to do anything about.

If this makes you feel good, good for you. My position on Elon hasn't changed since this was announced.

I'm done. This board is literally become a hotpot of complete stupidity.
 
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Rounding errors…
I understand the immensity of the numbers and all the separate department financials etc but it’s our money. Our view to gov should be critical. I love seeing what’s going on. And again if they say all the money is mandatory and we didn’t uncover much waste and as for the discretionary with agencies and programs not much there either then great. We know
 
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It's bullshit because we've already done this shit many, many, many times. About every ten years this comes up.

We know where the money is going. We know why we have debt problems. This isn't a difficult problem to actually finding the answer. It's a very difficult problem to do anything about.

If this makes you feel good, good for you. My position on Elon hasn't changed since this was announced.

I'm done. This board is literally become a hotpot of complete stupidity.
Nonsense we’ve already done this. That’s like the regulators in bed with Boeing. The relationship and bent matters.

And trust me I know what little is actually up for review compared to all that is mandatory. I get your point and it’s right. It’s not going to be a great big number we’re shining a light on but so what. Every penny counts when it’s ours

Let’s see the outcome then make a determination.
 
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People bitching about something that costs them nothing, claim that nothing will be accomplished or if so will only be a rounding error, but has the potential to do some amount of good, while calling other people dolts is next level irony @twenty02 .😂

Your reading comprehension is as terrible as your posts.
 
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Nonsense we’ve already done this. That’s like the regulators in bed with Boeing. The relationship and bent matters.

And trust me I know what little is actually up for review compared to all that is mandatory. I get your point and it’s right. It’s not going to be a great big number we’re shining a light on but so what. Every penny counts when it’s ours

Who cares. I'm done. You all have a good one.
 
What part specifically is bloated? Be specific.

I already posted the research that shows we're spending less on actual govt than at any point since the early 1960s. 6.4% of GDP in 2024.

So is that really the problem? Bloated govt?

Or is it that we've created a system of massive transfer payments to the general public funded via the national credit card. Voters have bought themselves money and they like it.
Wow! All of it is bloated. All of it suffers with mission creep.

Start with this video. It only goes to 2013.




Specifics?

Let’s look at criminal justice applied to the George Floyd, Chauvin was put away for life under state law. Along come the feds and do it again. That’s duplication and that is bloat. Congress passed the George Floyd law. All of that is bloat The point is we are federalizing more and more crime which have been state law issues. Why? Because Congress needs to feel like they are making a difference when all they do is pile crap higher and higher to campaign about.

If you wanna see more duplication and bloat look at road and bridge construction, the environment, education, social services.and more. The only place where there isn’t bloat is the armed services, which is a fundamental reason why the states created the federal government in the first place.
 
How should I interpret you saying “I’m done” & then posting this?😉
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