I wonder how well FDR rode a bike? How was JFK on stage ramps? Could Lincoln juggle?
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"Requiring a government-issued form of identification to vote is disenfranchisement since getting one is too hard or complicated for black people."
Is that still a Dem position? Is that racism?
Is that still a Dem position? Is that racism?
How about the paragraph below:
Whites were about 45 percent more likely than blacks to sell drugs in 1980, according to an analysis of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth by economist Robert Fairlie. This was consistent with a 1989 survey of youth in Boston. My own analysis of data from the 2012 National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows that 6.6 percent of white adolescents and young adults (aged 12 to 25) sold drugs, compared to just 5.0 percent of blacks (a 32 percent difference).
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that is interesting. I will have to try to read it later. I wonder how that splits rural v urban...police in cities have far more resources to combat crime than rural.
If no other racism existed, would people have rioted over George Floyd?
Americans want desperately to believe the just world fallacy, that any one of us can get ahead by hard work. We do not like it when we discover that is not entirely true.
Where we differ is the rioting. If I point to My Lai and say all US military are murderers, that would be crazy (and there is more than My Lau, I do not want to create a list). But some people riot and the argument is all protesters are rioters. I certainly do not think anyone here has said, "I hope they loot and burn more".
In that way it is like the police. Some have problems, it is unfair to say all. We know in a few cases that some protesters turned on the looters. Not enough, but some. In the police question, how often does one cop report on another? Is the blue wall of silence a myth? Does anyone have numbers on how often police report on police for misbehaviour?
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But that’s where you’re missing the forest for the trees. My Lai is part of the reason we lost the war. Those small incidents destroy hearts and minds, they don’t win them. The riots are causing the Cause to take an L, they won’t get the W because of them.
In Baghdad, I would go apeshit on contractors or other units that would come into my battlespace and mess it up with their overly harsh tactics. A month of good work we’d do to work with the community would all be lost if Blackwater came in and had one bad shoot. That’s what is happening with BLM.
on edit: rioting may be entirely justified when it is justified. This rioting, of people resisting arrest that ends with their deaths, is not. Again, Ahmaud’s death, clear cut racist behavior of ex police and with a potential cover up, is lost in all the noise of a doped up Floyd and a post sexual assault, knife wielding Blake. There should be a referendum on police in Ahmaud’s Georgia community. There shouldn’t be rioting in Minnesota.
You're trolling COH with this, aren't you?
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We won’t even agree on what “this” is but you know I’ve got it wrong. Marv’s post was too ambiguous and perhaps I took it the wrong way. It was full of dog whistle accusation but never explicitly made.
Early in the clip heard a fan who was anxious to get the game started yell, "play ball".
Then the chorus of booing was mixed with applause from what I could tell.
Starting a game with a sign of unity is hardly keeping with football tradition. Shaking hands after a game is more keeping with tradition.
All in all, having a hard time reacting to this event.
Some think those weren't even boos, but people saying "Chiefs!" in unison as is (supposedly) common there. It didn't sound like that to me, but ears can be deceiving and I have no historical context for cheers in Kansas City.
Walking and riding a bike are the only things you can compare Biden and t-rump on.
Who are the players and coaches protesting about? It's about racism right? So, I am imagining myself sitting there and seeing all these people locking arms. Who are they locking them against? It's the fans right? What is going on is these fans don't like being called racists to their faces. It's why they booed. Also this protest is political in nature and most sane people don't want politics mixed in with their sports.
It makes sense if you think about it. Who are they protesting? They are protesting the country saying the country is racist from her founding. Who is sitting in the stands? It's the country. It's those people who love America. Now if you think the country is racist from its founding. If you don't believe in the American system of government and laws and believe it to be inherently evil then don't get angry if you are showing it publicly and others who disagree show it publicly too. This is what happened.
Did the players get angry? I didn't see that.
(PS -You get dumber everyday.)
(PSS - The Bible has all kinds of stories about people who were upset about Jesus and his protests. You fit right in.)
Hey Libs 2 police officers were shot last night in LA! Lets celebrate!!! Block the emergency route! Death to the police! BLM!
Wow, pretty despicable to use this tragic event to make some small-minded smarmy post that has no real point. I'm sure you are as proud of yourself as you are really concerned about the victims.
did they block the route? It appears these officers were just monitoring a public trans station.
Pretty bad ambush by one shooter
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That's the Drudge headline, but the article he links doesn't say anything about them blocking access to the hospital.
You know the irony of the Kap situation? The guy talks about inequality but it never personally impacted him. Ever.
Born to a white mother and a black father from Nigeria. Dad bolts. White mom gave him up for adoption and he was immediately accepted into a loving white family who had lost a child due to heart defects. A loving family who gave him a great life. Probably not the ideal guy to talk about privilege.
You’re talking about a kid whose father leaves him and mother gives him up for adoption and you don’t think he’s been impacted by inequality? You need to do a little research into that.
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Seriously, seek help if you think the players were linking arms against the fans. If you don't understand what is
I don't think privilege is going to change until the people that receive it want the change.
The only irony I see is the NFL honoring a dude who resisted arrest for sexual assault, violating a domestic abuse restraining order, and stealing the victim’s vehicle, while wielding a deadly weapon.
Maybe they can put his name patch on a Ray Rice jersey and make a ton of money for NFL properties.
The NFL can’t suck enough.
People didn’t like Ali not because of his skin color. They didn’t like him because he was an arrogant, outspoken prick (an entertaining prick however)..
Hanoi Jane had the same issue and she was a white woman from Hollywood royalty.
The Vietnam War was so divisive regardless of color of skin.
If Ali were alive we could ask him about the interview he gave of returning to Louisville after winning the gold medal and a restaurant still refused to serve him. But yep, no way that had anything to do with race.
Exactly. Those who want to make every disagreement about a social Ill a racist argument are pretty shallow thinkers. Usually liberal thinkers. There are hundreds of issues that are as important to a good life. The systemic racism is not about discrimination as much as it is about easy excuses.
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Maybe he should protest his black father for abandoning him and his white mom for tossing him to the side like garbage.
The fact remains that a living family took him in as an infant and raised him in a loving home.
How exactly does inequality enter the picture? The only life he personally knew was very comfortable.
Protesting inequality when he should protest the decline of the family unit maybe?
I know, I know. That doesn’t fit in with your narrative that every problem in this world is because of skin color.
Nah...systemic racism is about racism. It is one of hundreds of important issues. It is one that we should try to fix. That there are hundreds of important issues doesn't mean we should avoid fixing any of them. Those who can't work on fixing one problem while still being able to acknowledge and work to fix others are pretty shallow thinkers. They are usually thinkers who call themselves conservative but really aren't.
I loved Clay/Ali as a kid. My dad hated him.
Hanoi Jane was/is a traitor...pure and simple.
According to the extremist Water Cooler jury here, if your dad hated Ali....it’s because your dad was a racist and also a member of the Klan and a Trump supporter.
That was one of the complaints about the booing. Predominantly white fans in the stands booing predominantly black players on the field. Telling them to shut up and entertain us basically.
You plagiarize more than Joe Biden. I see why you'll vote for him.
By the time George Floyd and Jacob Blake had their violent police confrontations with the cops; their lot in life was pretty well established. The both had records of violence, both were drug abusers, and while we don't know for sure, I think it's a good guess they didn't do well in school and couldn't hold down good jobs. Maybe the cops, in the final instance, showed racism, or maybe they didn't. But other poor life-choices made these two guys who they were and brought them to the point of being arrested--and not for the first time. Throwing around words and phrases like "institutional racism" is a convenient dodge for mostly white people. That's used because we don't know what to do after 50+ years of civil rights laws and a war on poverty. All that is left is to tell ourselves that all whites are racist and we are infected with a deep institutional racism. I think that notion is bullshit.
You just made up this scenario. You have no idea what booing was about. Again, just conjecture and trying to make it out to be race related.
I just don't think there's much to be gained by talking about something that we can't really understand, no matter how much we think we can or should. I just can't know what it's like to be black, and can't know how that history and life experience would influence how I relate to the world around me. The best thing I can do is listen to those who actually are in that position. I stay out of the abortion discussions for the same reason.
