I knew you were wrong when I saw you a sentence with the words "JDB is right".
Cities go through phases, but there's a ton of amazing about St. Louis.
i've lived in many cities. the problem with saint louis is that it spread out. the city is one of only two "major" cities in america that isn't a county. so municipalities popped up like crazy spreading farther and farther west. every single thing you cited is an isolated place that you drive to. there's very, very few areas that are safe and substantial for mixed used walking around. kansas city has power and light district and the plaza. indy has the circle. florida has endless places in just above every city. here there's only a few streets that you can walk and go from shop to shop restaurant to restaurant. it's a city with no usable downtown; no mountains; no beach; very few mixed use walkable areas; and insanely expensive in the desirable places to live. a very old 3 bedroom 3 bathroom 3,000 sq foot house in clayton is a million plus.
i live in the heart of clayton and while it's nice there's actually very little to do here too. i've been to every other city you noted except for milwaukee and i agree with you.
Wait. This is the most profound statement in this thread. An investment class, 3 percenter is a Sox fan? Do tell.
i like the college town of columbus vibe a lot more than saint louis. german village is cool too. too cold though. biggest city in ohio.
Stunned! how about a moment of silence for 9-11 victims instead of criminals being shot??
This is a good post marv. But I also get what ranger is saying. It all really is nuanced. My suburb is super liberal. The joke is it’s all the lawyers who work for the people who live in our neighboring burb and own all the companies. So we have George Floyd posters on our trees. The other day my neighbor goes I’m sick of these posters. I couldn’t care less if George Floyd died. Just like I couldn’t care less if a white meth head armed robbing criminal dies. They’re just shitty people. George Floyd was a shitty person - black or white. And some people don’t care when cops shoot shitty people - and it doesn’t make them racist.
Your point about being clear that there are some people that are incapable of good faith discussion is exactly my point. Those are the sides to which I’m referring. There are three large sides in this:
People aren’t automatically monsters because they want athletes to shut up and play. People pay top dollar to attend events and if they want to just see sport and are irritated when they don’t get that, it doesn’t make them assholes or racists.
Sandra Bland died in jail because she refused to put out her cigarette. That was it. Taylor was asleep in bed. Castillo was pulled over for a traffic stop and shot after telling the police he had a gun he lawfully had. How do we know which of them is a bad person that deserves to die?
But marv there's no evidence race is the causal effect in your first paragraph. because something bad happens to a black person, whether it be intentional or pure dereliction, race doesn't have to be the cause. as i've posted before the shootings involving blacks by cops are no more prevalent than that of whites when you factor in the amount of violent crimes committed. there's a tendency on the part of some, many who knows, certainly many on this board, that because something bad happens to a black person there's an immediate causal relationship.
You can’t prove any of those deaths you mentioned were a result of racism. Terrible policing yes. Daniel Shaver was executed as a white man from terrible policing. Police shot a white teenager with Asperger’s the other day. Does your aforementioned privilege forbid you to understand that sometimes bad policing is bad policing?
So nothing. Thx.I think they diverted funds from the 9/11 first responders health fund...oh wait, no, that was the Trump Administration.
Canaries in the coal mine. For a generation we gave Blacks hard time for crack cocaine and slapped Whites on the wrist for cocaine. Is there any explanation for that but racism?
i 100% believe racial profiling exists, particularly for driving while black. as for racism in the justice system i don't believe it's racism. i believe it's economics. here's an example. dwi's, possession charges under 35 mg etc. the prosecutor doesn't care about the race of the person. they literally have a massive file of cases that they would never even look at the race. it's all the same shit. dwi first offense sis 60 hours of community service, victim impact panel, satop, fine. there's no race involved. as they climb the felony ladder sure you may get a worse outcome if you have a public defender. but is that racism or a lack of $ to get a better lawyer. i have never once seen racism in court. not once. and again that's not to say i have a clue of what goes on in other places, but i have spent a lot of time seeing misd dockets and confined dockets in counties with extremely high crime rates and black populations
so that's disparate impact and a different thing. and i 100% agree with that. but is disparate impact racism? i don't think it necessarily is
Going beyond the justice system, name 10 reasons Blacks are more likely to be poor? Is racism on that list?
without a question it's on that list. loans, credit, employment discrim, on and on. blm with it's message, focus, and supporters are missing a big opportunity imo
I appreciate the links. The HRW entry in particular, reeks of highly biased analysis. The below passage in particular makes a couple of unsupported conclusions after looking at the data. I’ve highlighted them in bold
Look @Marvin the Martian - I’m trying to discuss this academically and from a lens of being disgusted with watching cities burn and citizens killing themselves over media and posse-fueled narratives.
