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CBS Election Interference

stollcpa said:
How do we know they release everything?
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I was thinking about that.

Hopefully the footage will have timestamps. If it does, we’ll know for sure. If it doesn’t, we won’t be able to tell.

Even better is if it does have timestamps and can see there are Nixonian missing seconds from the footage.

If I was Trump, I’d insist that the timestamps be on there…before they release it.
 
crazed_hoosier2 said:
I was thinking about that.

Hopefully the footage will have timestamps. If it does, we’ll know for sure. If it doesn’t, we won’t be able to tell.

Even better is if it does have timestamps and can see there are Nixonian missing seconds from the footage.

If I was Trump, I’d insist that the timestamps be on there…before they release it.
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CBS couldn’t care less what Trump thinks or says.
 
stollcpa said:
CBS couldn’t care less what Trump thinks or says.
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They do right now.

But that’s not even the point. The point is to get out ahead of them in the PR battle, in the event that they’re even pondering editing the “unedited” version.

Such that, if it does come out without timestamps, he’ll still be one step ahead of them. Their step would’ve been right into a pile of dogshit.
 
crazed_hoosier2 said:
CBS is releasing the unedited interview footage and transcript.

They really should’ve done this immediately. In fact, I think all news orgs should institute that practice with interviews of political actors.

Have an edited version…but also release the unedited footage online for everybody to evaluate. They really can’t argue “brevity” in today’s world.

Should be interesting to see what this looked like. Somebody’s going to have egg on their faces…and it might not be CBS News.
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Doesn’t it stand to reason that this would have been released immediately if it had been good for Kamala? Certainly before the election.
 
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crazed_hoosier2 said:
I will say this much: CBS being obstinate about releasing it and doing it only under duress would suggest they did have something to hide.
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Perhaps. But it could -- or should -- be their way of telling Trump to go fvck himself. I'm disappointed they buckled under. The lawsuit is meritless on its face and should have been summarily dismissed. (I'll let the shysters tell me how I'm wrong about that.)
 
UncleMark said:
Perhaps. But it could -- or should -- be their way of telling Trump to go fvck himself. I'm disappointed they buckled under. The lawsuit is meritless on its face and should have been summarily dismissed. (I'll let the shysters tell me how I'm wrong about that.)
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Food for thought…

- If CBS releasing the unedited video would’ve blown up in Trump’s face, don’t you think they’d have done that when he first started bitching about it? I would’ve, if I was them in that situation.

- While I totally share your unease with this kind of thing being done under government duress, I think news orgs should release everything voluntarily.

- Media transparency is a really good thing. Don’t you agree with that? They have a huge trust deficit. Doing what I’m suggesting would help them immensely in that regard.
 
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Hoopsdoc1978 said:
Doesn’t it stand to reason that this would have been released immediately if it had been good for Kamala? Certainly before the election.
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It does stand to good reason, yes.

But that doesn’t mean it’s dispositive. We can only determine that from actually seeing it.

So I’m glad we’ll finally get the chance to do that.
 
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Aloha Hoosier said:
I was scratching my head wondering why anyone still cared about this. Seemed like nothing much at the time even. Now I know why people "care:"

deadline.com

Paramount Global In Discussions With Donald Trump To Settle Lawsuit Over Kamala Harris’ ‘60 Minutes’ Interview — Update

Paramount Global is in discussions with Donald Trump's team about settling his lawsuit against CBS over a 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris.
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“But Paramount Global is seeking the greenlight for its sale to Skydance, something that requires the regulatory approval of the Trump administration.”

And there’s the reason for the timing. Which is something I wondered about. That would indicate that CBS isn’t doing this willingly.
 
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Aloha Hoosier said:
I was scratching my head wondering why anyone still cared about this. Seemed like nothing much at the time even. Now I know why people "care:"

deadline.com

Paramount Global In Discussions With Donald Trump To Settle Lawsuit Over Kamala Harris’ ‘60 Minutes’ Interview — Update

Paramount Global is in discussions with Donald Trump's team about settling his lawsuit against CBS over a 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris.
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I think it seemed like a big deal at the time. And I could argue that it’s still a big deal now…but not simply because the merger is in Trump’s hands.

(As an aside, why does the government even have a say in this merger? It doesn’t seem like an antitrust issue. And if it’s about media consolidation, I’d say that it’s obsolete in today’s world. With legacy media companies, anyway. Social media is ruling the roost nowadays.)

If a media organization is doing something to misrepresent an interview with a politician - either to help them or to hurt them - I’d say it’s a big deal and is something people should know about.

Trust and independence in the press was big enough to make it into the 1st amendment. And I think it belongs there.
 
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Sneak peek of the new Harris and Walz campaign documentary is out.
 
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stollcpa said:
All you can do is shake your head. MSM election interference is fine. We’re looking for the Russian boogieman while MSM spends all their time doing it.

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Exclusive | Ex-CBS staffers call for outside probe of ‘60 Minutes’ interview with Kamala Harris amid editing scandal

The long-running news show has come under fire after allegedly cleaning up the Democratic presidential candidate’s answer to a question from “60 Minutes” correspondent Bill Whitak…
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Do you agree that Fox News is part of the "mainstream media"?
 
Stuffshot said:
Do you agree that Fox News is part of the "mainstream media"?
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Stuffshot said:
Does "cnn msnbc etc" as you posted include FoxNews?
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Of course they are. That said, you do realize that ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, NBC and MSNBC all predate Fox News hitting the airwaves right? They likely wouldn't exist at all, or at the very least skew so far to the right, if not for the others having leaned so far left for so long.
 
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All4You said:
Of course they are. That said, you do realize that ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, NBC and MSNBC all predate Fox News hitting the airwaves right? They likely wouldn't exist at all, or at the very least skew so far to the right, if not for the others having leaned so far left for so long.
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It's all your fault! You made me do it!!!
 
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All4You said:
Of course they are. That said, you do realize that ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, NBC and MSNBC all predate Fox News hitting the airwaves right? They likely wouldn't exist at all, or at the very least skew so far to the right, if not for the others having leaned so far left for so long.
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Not to mention that, in this case, we’re talking about 60 minutes, the preeminent news magazine in all of television history, blatantly lying to their viewers.

This isn’t Fox News channel we’re discussing here.
 
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Hoopsdoc1978 said:
Not to mention that, in this case, we’re talking about 60 minutes, the preeminent news magazine in all of television history, blatantly lying to their viewers.

This isn’t Fox News channel we’re discussing here.
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It’s sad. I don’t watch any network television other than sports. Not one thing. Haven’t seen snl in 25 years. No late night talk shows. None of it
 
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Baller23Boogie said:
Not network, but for those with Peacock, we've been pulled in by Traitors.

We don't watch reality TV, but that show is legit.
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We got snagged by 90210 working at the DG house at IU. Right about when we (the waiters) were done dishwashing on either Wed or Thur nights (remember it on both for some reason), we'd get pulled into the TV room with the girls to watch. Did it first, for the chicks, but after awhile...we actually got into it. So much so, that when you'd see one of your fellow waiters/bros out on campus, you could simply yell/sing the first seven notes of the opening 90210 theme, and your target would simply respond with two "claps"...

 
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BradStevens said:
Last network show I regularly watched was Modern Family.
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Yeah, "linear" television is dead. It's one of the reasons the proposed Paramount merger has dragged on.

To put things in perspective....Paramount Global is being valued at $8B. That includes most of CBS Entertainment (it excludes some CBS properties like BET, which they're seeking to spin off). It also includes Paramount Pictures -- which includes not just their feature film properties and studio, but also some prominent cable networks like Comedy Central and MTV.

So $8B for most of Paramount Global.

Little tiny Evansville, Indiana has had two companies in the past year purchased for more than this: packaging company Berry Global for $8.4B and Fiber-to-the-premise carrier Metronet for $10B.

I don't know how much longer linear TV will remain a thing. But (a) what does remain will be smaller than it's been since the advent of television, and (c) it won't outlive me...and I'm no spring chicken.
 
Hoopsdoc1978 said:
The old Looney Tunes in its entirety is now on Max. I’ve been watching the sh*t out of that. Yosemite Sam is the bomb.
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Is it really there in its entirety? I doubt that, but I don't subscribe to Max.

There has been a lot of censorship of the Warner Bros. Merrie Melodies/Looney Tunes catalog over the years. The most famous is what's known as the "Censored Eleven" cartoons. But even with titles that have remained available, there have been many cuts made.

Most of the censorship has had to do with racial stereotypes and stuff. One of the most famous of the "Censored Eleven" is a cartoon called "Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs". Kid you not. And it's about what you'd expect it to be. Really, even if you overlook the racism, it's not all that good of a cartoon. Bob Clampett was my least favorite WB director.

One great cartoon that's often been censored for cultural sensitivity is Friz Freleng's "Which is Witch" -- the one with Bugs and a Witch Doctor in "Darkest Africa".

But some other censorship involved cartoon violence. For example, if you're familiar with "Ballot Box Bunny" (where Yosemite Sam is running for mayor promising to rid the town of "every last rabbit"...and Bugs decides to run against him), the cartoon ends with Sam playing Russian Roulette. This ending is often cut out of TV broadcasts of the short.

FWIW, I have all of the WB cartoons on my Plex server -- unedited. But if you're right that they actually have *all* of them on Max, then good for them. I'd like to think most adults are mature enough to see them, all of them, in their unedited form.
 
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crazed_hoosier2 said:
Yeah, "linear" television is dead. It's one of the reasons the proposed Paramount merger has dragged on.

To put things in perspective....Paramount Global is being valued at $8B. That includes most of CBS Entertainment (it excludes some CBS properties like BET, which they're seeking to spin off). It also includes Paramount Pictures -- which includes not just their feature film properties and studio, but also some prominent cable networks like Comedy Central and MTV.

So $8B for most of Paramount Global.

Little tiny Evansville, Indiana has had two companies in the past year purchased for more than this: packaging company Berry Global for $8.4B and Fiber-to-the-premise carrier Metronet for $10B.

I don't know how much longer linear TV will remain a thing. But (a) what does remain will be smaller than it's been since the advent of television, and (c) it won't outlive me...and I'm no spring chicken.
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Define linear TV.

If you’re saying episodic TV will cease to exist, I disagree. We just lived through the golden age of that, and as cinema has retrenched, I can’t see TV stopping. Humans love stories.
 
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