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Cartels are in real trouble

Exactly….who is given the ability to diagnose and prescribe?
It’s kind of legal shit. Opioid better tracks tobacco where you have salient info concealment and liability predicated on public nuisance. Externality type shit.

Physician sounds in med mal and is just a different animal that can’t really be grouped bc of procedure etc
 
CVS is in some legal trouble again.

Doesn’t make sense but I’m not sure how that company does their documentation. I’m guessing the Feds will try to extort money with a settlement. There’s a key paragraph in the article. Something like all were prescribed by practitioners that were federally licensed (active Dea number) and all prescriptions were for legal drugs.

They just want money but won’t touch the root cause
 
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The ones filing the claims. Without a valid prescription a pharmacist can not dispense. Who writes the prescriptions? Who diagnoses and determines treatment algorithm?
Again it’s just a different scenario process. It would be an individual medical malpractice action. Caps. Proving liability. Just different. I’m sure those cases are out there but not in any grand difference making scale.

The cases that gave rise to settlements are brought by states and political subdivisions (counties and munis) represented by private firms. They were consolidated into an Mdl to include hundreds of plaintiffs. Some have a process if you were an individual you can recover a preset amount. Not much. The amount each political subdivision gets is also preset based on a formula

There’s just no legal process or infrastructure or framework to pursue doctors en masse
 
Again it’s just a different scenario process. It would be an individual medical malpractice action. Caps. Proving liability. Just different. I’m sure those cases are out there but not in any grand difference making scale.

The cases that gave rise to settlements are brought by states and political subdivisions (counties and munis) represented by private firms. They were consolidated into an Mdl to include hundreds of plaintiffs. Some have a process if you were an individual you can recover a preset amount. Not much. The amount each political subdivision gets is also preset based on a formula

There’s just no legal process or infrastructure or framework to pursue doctors en masse
In the article that Lars linked…one of the reasons (the main reason if you read between the lines)….the pharmacy did not properly police the physicians. And yet the pharmacists are not allowed to diagnose or prescribe. It’s ass backwards.
 
BW, do you really believe wiping out the cartels will be as easy as your post sounds?

Cannot help thinking using Tier 1 Special Military Units against the cartels has been under consideration for some time but put aside for good reasons.
Nothing worth doing is easy. But the status quo isn’t working. It’s getting worse.
 
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No they make them in a bunch of combos including all white
How are we feeling about NB

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At a certain point the status quo must be challenged. It’s time. Kill them all.
Question: How many innocents will die as a result and how many are you willing to live with?

I’d love for this to be capable of succeeding without the loss of innocent life. I don’t see a possibility, though, that that can happen.
 
In the article that Lars linked…one of the reasons (the main reason if you read between the lines)….the pharmacy did not properly police the physicians. And yet the pharmacists are not allowed to diagnose or prescribe. It’s ass backwards.
I know drs can go to prison. This guy was a founder of Monroe Hospital.

 
I know drs can go to prison. This guy was a founder of Monroe Hospital.

My guess….the prison sentence had to do with defrauding insurance companies and nothing to do with maintaining an addict. Hell….suboxone probably is #1 in scripts sold. Not pill volume but number of scripts. Norco is probably #2. Who writes all those scripts? Who refers Johnny to a pain clinic at the ripe old age of 33?

It’s a money thing for the states and fed. It’s why Murt said they won’t waste their time on docs. They don’t care about the crisis…they just want to redistribute money under the guise of doing something
 
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Nothing worth doing is easy. But the status quo isn’t working. It’s getting worse.

Agree.

We agree the notion of the Special Military Unit sweeping into Mexico and wiping out the well established cartel is a big challenge. However, being doable may, or may not, be the case.

In terms of preventing the cartel's drug operation from getting worse, consider there is a need to curtail the demand side. This would include helping U.S. addicts and preventing others from becoming addicted.

Also we should remind ourselves the cartel has a presence in our communities capable of cyber- attacks in response to our military operation.

There has to be reasons we haven't taken the Special Military Unit attack in the past. Afterall, our military defense force is constantly evaluating threats and responses. Having said that, a mission of this nature would require a go ahead of the CIC. Trump could be the man.
 
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Question: How many innocents will die as a result and how many are you willing to live with?

I’d love for this to be capable of succeeding without the loss of innocent life. I don’t see a possibility, though, that that can happen.
Policing occasionally results in innocents losing their lives. Violence creates collateral damage. Do you want to disband police forces?
 
Agree.

We agree the notion of the Special Military Unit sweeping into Mexico and wiping out the well established cartel is a big challenge. However, being doable may, or may not, be the case.

In terms of preventing the cartel's drug operation from getting worse, consider there is a need to curtail the demand side. This would include helping U.S. addicts and preventing others from becoming addicted.

Also we should remind ourselves the cartel has a presence in our communities capable of cyber- attacks in response to our military operation.

There has to be reasons we haven't taken the Special Military Unit attack in the past. Afterall, our military defense force is constantly evaluating threats and responses. Having said that, a mission of this nature would require a go ahead of the CIC. Trump could be the man.
*Special Mission Unit
 
Policing occasionally results in innocents losing their lives. Violence creates collateral damage. Do you want to disband police forces?

Seriously? Policing? How good is the US military at policing? And how many boots on the ground does it take to be an effective police force?

Mexico attempted it with about 100k troops and failed. Killed approximately 40k enemies. Arrested over 100k. And lost. Another estimated 300k-400k have been killed in retaliatory violence.

By most estimates, cartels are the 4th or 5th largest employers in the country. They now steal something like $2B/yr in oil from from pipelines in regions they control.

Our capabilities are obviously superior to the Mexican military. But the idea that this would be looked at as some small special ops type situation is ridiculous. We'd be peeling at an giant onion that could easily turn into an epic mess
 
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