I had two friends retire from P&G about 53 and both received the same sort of deal. Sounds incredible to me.
Can a person really love their job/career?
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I had two friends retire from P&G about 53 and both received the same sort of deal. Sounds incredible to me.
The only way that makes sense is some kind of early retirement package meant to get rid of the deadwood like @NPT .
Nope.... Where I worked you could retire with 80 points (age + years of service). 90 points was full retirement but you could get reduced retirement plus all benefits at 80 points. You can be sure I was hoping for a package but they didn't offer any. I have a friend that retired 2-3 years ago that got 18 months of salary and just retired with over 90 points.The only way that makes sense is some kind of early retirement package meant to get rid of the deadwood like @NPT .
Know lots of people with humanities degrees who are killing it financially. The ability to think critically is in high demand if you keep adding to your skill set.
Geez. How do you get deals like that? If I retired tomorrow my company would make sure my health insurance was canceled before the digital ink was dry on my resignation letter.
Someone had to be willing to take them on and train them up. That's hard to find these days.
And a bill for the job search to replace me.
I get your point, but I don't see that so much as long as the person is open to different routes to getting to where they'd like to go. Too often we tell young workers that they must do "A, B, and C" in their career if they want to be successful when there are lots of different ways to get there.
A lot of times someone with a humanities degree may have to start at lower salary positions initially, but they can quickly pass some of their peers because of broader critical thinking skills. The modern job market is just skill acquisition and juxtaposition. Vocational training is only valuable as long as the specifics of the training don't change (and technology is making the manner of execution of jobs change at light speed in the current environment.)
Agree with hoos on this one, and the others who chimed in. The focus on skills based learning over the last 20 years has produced tons of finance bros and coders and maybe even finance bros who code. I work in a small(ish) business, in a niche market doing niche things. We started out just looking for college grads, or at least put them at the top of the pile.
But, at least the younger ones.....they can't write. I mean, it's bad. Grammar sucks. Word usage is high school level or lower. Terrible. They're not dumb and the things they know, they know pretty well. But it's not what I would call a well rounded education. Even simple math seems lost on them.
Had one guy who was wicked smahhhht. Actually performed pretty well at the job, was promoted twice in about 18 months. All the while working on his MBA in Mgmt.
But everybody despised him b/c he, of course, knew he was smartest person in the room at all times, that whatever mgmt did could be done differently (his way) and better and that, quite frankly, we were stupid for not realizing this.
Now, he was generally wrong about most things that rose above his level but that wasn't his downfall. His downfall was being an asshole. When he left to be a consultant somewhere I told him that he is going to run into many situations where he is competing for a job, etc with another person. That person may know 90% of what he knows but is much more well liked and willing to work within a team. And they will always choose that person. If they're smart. He didn't seem to understand this. Of course, he was only 23 or so. He'll learn.
Not really. She works for a Marketing firm. She used to be a partner, but we sold all our shares five years ago. Now she just gets a regular salary. But it's still nearly double mine.
For the most part I really like my job (biomedical research).
Everything has its drawbacks, though. My entire salary/benefits and the salaries/benefits of all of my research group is funded entirely by research grants. It's a lot of work, a lot of pressure, and a lot of failure to deal with. You find that you'll write 10 research grants in a year and only one gets funded, if you're lucky. Hopefully 1 or 2 of the 9 (or 10) that got dinged is criticized constructively, so that it has a chance to be next year's winner. You have to generally accept boatloads of defeat.
Everything has its drawbacks, though. My entire salary/benefits and the salaries/benefits of all of my research group is funded entirely by research grants. It's a lot of work, a lot of pressure, and a lot of failure to deal with. You find that you'll write 10 research grants in a year and only one gets funded, if you're lucky. Hopefully 1 or 2 of the 9 (or 10) that got dinged is criticized constructively, so that it has a chance to be next year's winner. You have to generally accept boatloads of defeat.
That fits really well with what I'm talking about. She didn't get an undergrad marketing degree, but she had skills that could apply in a marketing context. Did she end up going back to get an MBA?
You never know where the road is going to take you. 🤷♂️
No, no advanced degree. Funny thing is when we met she was 28, and just worked part time doing freelance work, and made jewelry to sell in small shops. She couldn't have been making more than 25K. Ten years later she was partner in a firm. I don't think her actual degree mattered for anything.
Marketing is fine arts adjacent. Many of the same skills apply in both...although I doubt that anyone ever asked her about her degree.
We weren't retired, but we were low income and under the ACA it cost us about $600/mo.
My wife has been retired for a couple of years and I've been since February. We've got five years till she hits Medicare, six for me. We're just ticking down the minutes. If I was inclined I could do enough handyman work each month to cover the insurance.
We had a handyman in my old neighborhood. We all used him. I guarantee he made well over a $100k a year. I'd see him on a job literally everyday somewhere in the neighborhood. Few things are more valuable than a good handyman
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We're just finishing up our master bath. So in one room I did framing, drywall, plumbing, electrical, flooring, tile and cabinets. My problem is that I'm a bit particular about how I do things and means I'm not very quick.
Just saying you might be able to get off cheaper. The ACA subsidies are income based.
Well, women like it better when you take your time . . .
Based off my last year of employment our income was to high to catch a break. After this year we might get a bit closer.
Damn!!! That's big time impressive. You could make a killing as a handyman. I still miss my mine. He was amazing. A six foot six inch black guy, a gangster from the streets, who became a cul de sac cowboy. Guy would work from sun up til sun down on jobs and if he'd catch me on my deck pop up for a couple beers. No advertising. All word of mouth. He made a killing because he would respond faster than any company in town and was reliable.
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There’s a guy like that in Bloomington. Works the professor circuit. Gets invited to play tennis at IU. Works nonstop. You usually have to call him three times before he’ll call back.
Oh yeah there's good money in it. My guy eventually got a little crew going. This is going back a while though. He used his cash to become a country singer lol. He was real neat
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Our guy here is an active fireman who can do anything and is busy as hell every off day. Our Georgia guy is a retired (early) IT and construction company CEO who “got bored.”Oh yeah there's good money in it. My guy eventually got a little crew going. This is going back a while though. He used his cash to become a country singer lol. He was real neat
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Oh yeah there's good money in it. My guy eventually got a little crew going. This is going back a while though. He used his cash to become a country singer lol. He was real neat
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Sounds like autotune, is it?
Fireman can be a pretty sweet gig. Here they work 9 days a month. 24 hour shifts. BBQ. Play basketball. Binge series. Then the cops come over to call em hosedraggers and play poker with them. Like a vacation from the wife. Then they go do whatever their other job is, like you said construction, handyman, all kinds of stuff.
LOL sounds like something. He was no dummy. Whenever you needed something done on the roof all of the sudden wild bill would have a crew. these guys would be higher than shit. finally i told him no more of his "crew." it was only a matter of time before one fell off the roof
Yup. I always thought I'd like a nurse's schedule too. Three 12 hour shifts wouldn't be bad at all
I had a pretty good thing, construction through contacts and antiques . My problem the people I got jobs from were never satisfied and I didn't want employees. Always wanted to do something bigger and bigger. When I was 25-35 I could really do a lot by myself. 35 -40 started going downhill and my body caught up with me.After early 40's time was catching up. Going to auctions was great, no GPS most of us didnt have cell phones. Head out on a Saturday at 4-5 AM with auction paper and a map . Hit 3-5-maybe 6 or 7 in a day , open road, drive a 150 miles one way , not really sure what was ahead, interesting small towns and seeing most of Northern to cental Indiana . Some days were duds , some days were great. That is totally different so not liking either a lot anymore.Online vs stuff being carried out of the nooks and crannies on a foggy spring morning. Having to be able to think on your feet vs look everything up on your phone. You still had to know what you were looking up to a point.
It was fall of 99 I think, they were selling everything. It was out of Southport 65 and 465? Things had changed around this old house. I took a sawzall a cord a rope and an 8 ft stepladder. It was a weekday . I bought the whole porch and all the trim off the house. I went to Menards for some 2x4s . to hold porch up. I had rooms to clean out as well. So I have all the corbels to cut off the house hanging on a rope and a porch. Everything had been sold around the place and golf course and its hitting 5 and some curious people are showing up. I'm out here with bees flying around me and this circle of people with dress clothes watching me. One guy started to inch up to me and ask what are you going to do with this stuff? I said make money. I ended up heading around Indy at 1 am finally stopping to eat and I go in to wash my hands and I am just covered in dirt. American Pickers as I saw in guilty pleasures is so fake . It was the reaction of those people! I made $2500 the first day I priced stuff and another 1000 over a few weeks . May not seem like a lot to some but I sure as hell did love my job that what I wanted to do that day. I was dirty and sweaty and I didnt have to answer to anyone.
the key to loving your job/career, is not having things you're far more passionate about outside it.
Agree. People are busy plus we live in a world where people are lucky if they can change a light bulb.
I work in an office setting. People found out I change my own oil on cars, service my lawnmower, etc. Next thing I know people are asking me about transmission issues on their Toyotas and Hondas. I finally had to explain to them that any moron can change oil. I'm living proof.
I have several friends that are true gear heads. They get a kick out of me being the white collar gear head in the office.
Isn't it really amazing? I admit my car sits really low and I have access to a pit and actually have to drive it up on the curbs or i wouldnt fit, but changing oil is pretty basic. High Schools need to be teaching some more basic living skils to people. I admit I can work on my truck a lot easier than my dumb riding mower with a 1000 safety issues because some idiot backed over their kid somehow. I'm not sure how many people are capable of changing a simple lock or doorknob anymore. Electric? Just make sure its off if you are doing simple 110 volt things. I guess I worked on my own bike as a kid and always had some tools and always fixed stuff on my own.
