I don't understand that statement at all. You think a person should follow a party blindly? What needs to be gotten rid of is those people that blindly follow Trump.
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Call me Snake.
(I think TMP used this line a few years ago. It means nothing, just thought I'd throw him a bone).
I agree you don’t have to follow them blindly. I haven’t voted for Trump. I want people who are not fiscally conservative to leave the party. You can’t claim to be fiscally conservative and vote for Biden. Whether you call them RINOs or something else, I want fiscally irresponsible and big government Republicans gone.
I’d rather lose the next 10 elections and have a party of Ron Pauls than continue the trend of an ever increasing federal government. It’s the biggest risk to America’s future in my humble opinion.
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ehhhh ... That is ONE of names that they are referred too.
My god. Replace the American flag with BLM and paint the White House rainbow. Reparations and gender reassignments 1A and 1B for issues facing America.
Tell Pose hold the line
Biden seems strong. That might have been a cheap fake debate. Let’s keep him
I don't see Harris/Pete being a successful ticket. Oddly I could see Harris/Whitmer winning.
She's top 1% dancer for a politician.
That's a great argument in Trump's defense.
But it has no relevance to my post or dbmhoosier's lying about when Stormy Daniels received the money.
If you’ve been around you would remember my battles with the libs about fiscal matters. I’m a fiscal conservative. It’s one of my biggest concerns. The choice was between to fiscally irresponsible candidates. One of them is totally unfit for the office so I voted against him - and for all the other Republicans on the ballot.
If Trump would have been in office there would be somewhere between 3-5 trillion less in government. Not to mention the 100s of billions in student loan forgiveness.
I would agree with all of that IF it was always a choice between a fiscally conservative candidate and candidates like Biden but it's not. Trump was not fiscally conservative at all. And to me character does matter but I think how a lot of candidates appear in public doesn't really reflect the true person. However, in the end I'll vote base on policies because they are what's most important to me BUT I'm not gonna criticize anyone because they put character above policies. And let me be clear... character is not based on looking good in the public's eyes. RMK could be an AH in public but I think he was a good man.
Gotcha. I answered Aloha above on spending. Electing Biden added 3-5 trillion more debt/spending that wouldn’t have happened if Trump was President. Those polices and spending are much more detrimental on 10s of millions of people’s lives, so we’re going to disagree on putting character above policy. It’s not even close in my opinion. Also, I don’t think Biden is a good person either.
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We don’t know Trump would have spent less. He enjoyed the stimulus bill he signed - and the checks that were sent out. Didn’t buy enough votes for him. If he’d won he probably would have done some additional costly stimulus. Just different. Maybe he’d have finally gotten through the infrastructure he promised. The expensive student loan forgiveness for deadbeats was struck down. I railed against that bull crap. Another vote buying effort. Search “deadbeats” and enjoy.
Can you imagine her and Pete and them both announcing their pronouns everywhere they go? Lol.
First, Aloha has never said he's gonna vote for Biden this time, he's just said he will not vote for Trump. Yeah, like you I put policies above character even though I don't trust Trump at all. Like you, I think Biden is not a good person either. Aloha puts more weigh on the fact that Biden and Pence willingly gave the classified documents back than I do but I respect his opinion. To me, it's kinda like robbing a bank and if you get caught the penalty is more if you don't willingly give the money back. I don't want to drive people like Aloha away from the Republican party but I'll guarantee you he's not gonna be one of those (like a few others on the forum) where they say they used to be a Republican but then support every liberal policy.
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GIMME THAT PARDON OLD MAN. SICK A WAITIN. I NEED THAT PARDON
I hadn't thought about that. I was thinking more about the loss of his ability to sell access. Gotta keep revenue up.
You have accused me if this and I come down about 50-50
-with the GOP on cutting spending
-with the GOP on avoiding foreign wars
-with the GOP on (what used to be) their stance on support of free trade
-with the GOP on more border security
-with the Dems on higher tax burdens on the wealthy and / or fewer loopholes
-with the Dems on extending the runway on social security by the rich paying on more of their income
-with the GOP on raising the retirement age, gradually, to cut spending, perhaps automatically aligned with life expectancy stats
-with the Dems on better funding of basic research, especially in health care
-with the Dems on most of the issues with respect to environment
-with the GOP on a higher commitment to nuclear
-with the Dems on LGBTQ rights
-in the middle on abortion. Say, none after 20 weeks except for rape, incest, and health of mother
I have a hard time believing that a candidate cannot get off of any state ballot for being unable or unfit to run.
You’re being disingenuous. We do know. ARP Act passed with zero votes from Republicans in the Senate and added 1.9 trillion. The Inflation Act added another trillion with no support from Republicans. Neither would have passed if Trump was President. That’s 3 trillion. The Infrastructure Bill might have passed because it did have bipartisan support.
Ahh the good old days of decency and restraint in journalism. How I miss them.Same game different name ... Divide and conquer. The last time it didn't gain much traction.
We really don’t know. We can only guess. IMO Trump showed no spending restraint and enjoyed doling out cash during COVID. I don’t know that he would have shown any restraint in a second term, and if Trump proposed big spending bills, do you think Republicans in congress would buck him? They rollover like dogs for the guy. However, your opinion could be right and he may have pushed for less. Maybe the infrastructure finally getting done would have been enough. We’ll never know.
He's not a Republican. He's wishy-washy. He used to be a Democrat and then jumped on the Reagan train and voted Republican. Do we know whether he voted for Clinton or not? He's never said, as far as I know. My bet is, he voted for Bush Sr. and then Clinton for a second term, but I don't know.
He was duped, like many of us, into voting for W. I don't blame him for that, but look who W was running against?
Did he vote for Obama? I don't think we know.
He claims he voted for Trump in 2016. What changed between 2016 and 2020? Well, in 2020, he voted for a clearly declining Biden, after he'd voted for Trump in 2016? Did he think Biden was going to be better?
Aloha is one who leans with whatever side the media - and his military superiors - leans. Ask him if he thinks the Russian Collusion investigation was warranted?
I've got no respect for a supposed Republican who can't bring himself to criticize a Democrat more than he does a Republican.
Well, Hunter is the smartest man Joe knows. Why would he let all that intelligence go to waste?
You’re an idiot. I’ve voted this way - Reagan, GHWB, Dole, GWB, GWB, McCain, Romney, Johnson (couldn’t vote for Trump or HRC), Biden (Trump is unfit).
I NEVER said I voted for Trump. I was adamantly against him from the day he announced for the GOP primary. You’re a liar and should apologize.
Fact is that you’re a simpleton. You’re a Trump loving fool. I would prefer you stop thinking you’re a Republican. I’m a Republican and you’re simply a Trump sycophant. You’re dbm with fewer links to Trumpster Twitter Twits. I laugh at your idiocy.
Not often, but never from DANC. He’s a bad faith poster. He lies, changes the questions, moves the goal post and is an asshole 24/7/365. Otherwise he’s a peach of a guy. 😉
