Archie going with 11 scholarship players
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I like that archie has decided the NCAA set the scholarship limit too high at 13 and he only wants 10 or 11 players.
I also like that Archie realizes that the 11-12-13 players are always unhappy and just cause problems that he doesn’t want to deal with.
I also like that Archie will allow that 11-12-13 scholarship that could help his team w depth or practice or future development to go to waste. Instead maybe that IN HS bb player could get a job at Mother Bears or a local Bloomington establishment to make min wage and graduate full of debt, or maybe forego an unaffordable college experience altogether, rather than living their dream of wearing a D1 uniform, maybe for the school of their dreams and bust their tail as a practice player that may one day become a HS Coach, a trainer, or any other profession that could be a benefit to the IU program.
Archie’s plan that he is now throwing around rapidly and consistently of ‘getting older’ is tough to do when bringing in 2 man classes(plus a walkon) ...and leaving scholarships unused. You know what those scholarships all become next year likely - young freshman...
I also like that Archie realizes that the 11-12-13 players are always unhappy and just cause problems that he doesn’t want to deal with.
I also like that Archie will allow that 11-12-13 scholarship that could help his team w depth or practice or future development to go to waste. Instead maybe that IN HS bb player could get a job at Mother Bears or a local Bloomington establishment to make min wage and graduate full of debt, or maybe forego an unaffordable college experience altogether, rather than living their dream of wearing a D1 uniform, maybe for the school of their dreams and bust their tail as a practice player that may one day become a HS Coach, a trainer, or any other profession that could be a benefit to the IU program.
Archie’s plan that he is now throwing around rapidly and consistently of ‘getting older’ is tough to do when bringing in 2 man classes(plus a walkon) ...and leaving scholarships unused. You know what those scholarships all become next year likely - young freshman...
Jay Wright only uses 11 schollies (as does Chris Mack).
Tim Miles believes 13 schollies is one reason why so many transfer.
B Snow said that when your 12th and 13th guy gets disgruntled over playing time...that's another distraction for a coach to manage seeping into the locker room.
Plus when you give a scholly to a walk on, that counts on your APR score. Cool huh?
Cliff, Jake and Damezi really helped us last year didn't they with our injuries.
Oh and it's a 3 person class of TJD, Hunter and Franklin. Two top 40 guys and a top 100ish. One front court, one wing and one back court.
Where is this dumpster fire I keep reading about?
Tim Miles believes 13 schollies is one reason why so many transfer.
B Snow said that when your 12th and 13th guy gets disgruntled over playing time...that's another distraction for a coach to manage seeping into the locker room.
Plus when you give a scholly to a walk on, that counts on your APR score. Cool huh?
Cliff, Jake and Damezi really helped us last year didn't they with our injuries.
Oh and it's a 3 person class of TJD, Hunter and Franklin. Two top 40 guys and a top 100ish. One front court, one wing and one back court.
Where is this dumpster fire I keep reading about?
Anyone who thinks we’re going to be better than last year after losing Morgan and Romeo is living in fantasy land.
No coach should be able to miss the tournament their first 3 years and keep their job. It should be in the contract. If you’re afraid of that happening we shouldn’t be hiring you.
No coach should be able to miss the tournament their first 3 years and keep their job. It should be in the contract. If you’re afraid of that happening we shouldn’t be hiring you.
I never said I was a better coach. Just that we can find a better one. And it doesn’t take a professional coach to realize the last 2 seasons have been dumpster fires. Everyone in the country saw that.
Yeah, did you?
I saw a lot of undersized guys playing out of position (McSwain, McRoberts, Morgan and Smith) and then watched a team go through a freshman who...didn't have the greatest of seasons while still being undersized.
That team missed the tournament by just one game.
What did you see?
A team with top 10-15 talent in the country, 8 four or five star recruits, a senior all Big Ten Morgan, playing in a down Big Ten.
And laid an egg for 12-13 games and somehow, some way, managed to miss the tournament. An inexcusable collapse as bad as any there’s ever been. And a coach who looked completely lost through all of it.
No poster should be able to post over 7100 times and continue to be as stupid as you and allowed to keep posting the same thing over and over and over and over again
But it was a team you claimed was talented enough to win the Big Ten and make a serious run at the Final Four. You shamefully hide from that now, but you honestly believed that, yet you criticize others for talking up the talent. Face it. You were way, way wrong. Try owning it instead of ripping everyone else.
Anyone who thinks that IU should not have been able to make the tourney last year is delusional. We had everything we needed, I like to stay optimistic, but Archie just didn’t rally the guys last year.
Where do you find that IU missed by 1 game?
The Ohio State game, BTT.
Both of us were on bubble. Virtually a play-in game. Was talked about on NCAA selection reports.
along with about 8-12 other teams playing in their conference tournaments...
Maybe 1 game would have been enough - or maybe IU winning would have got some other bubble team in...and IU wouldve still needed to win another game, or two, who knows.
But to claim IU ‘just missed out’ after dropping 12-13 games, w an 8-12 conf record, is putting a very wishful fan angle on the situation at the time.
the press was leading us to believe that the IU/OSU game in the B1G tourney was a play-in game. Still not sure we get in if we squeak by OSU then get drilled in the next game. Will never know. Not too many teams can go Oh-for-January and still have any angle at making the big tourney. Just a couple wins during that stretch and this discussion is moot. But something internal was seriously wrong with the squad at that time (and it wasn't injury) that cost them the season.
And I like that you'll bitch both about open scholarships and "wasting" them on players like Gelon, Priller or Fitzner.
Oh, wait: no I don't!
Not ever find me calling out players...
You think Archie wanted to carry these 2 scholarships forward?
He sure was going after Lester, Trendan, and others pretty hard for that to be his plan.
I feel confident that it wasn't his plan IF he could add another piece that made sense and was going to help this COMING year. He has also stated that he doesn't have a problem not using all the scholarships.
I like the fact that he just didn't go out and sign the next Priller for the sake of filling scholarships like the previous coach did.
Hunter's health could be the most important offseason development for IU Basketball.
I don't care if we have 11 or 13 players. Why does it matter if #12 and #13 are players that typically aren't going to play? I heard Archie speak and he seems relieved to have a team that all can contribute and there will be no people complaining.
We will pick up some walk on players or use managers for practice. The players on the bench know they are going to play. Blackmon could be a 12th scholarship player or at least be able to play if needed.
without a doubt. that's why there is such an uneasy feeling around here. and probably will be all summer. I keep coming here daily, looking for some good news...any good news...but starting to think I may need to go enjoy my summer and check back in here come mid August. Every day it's the same....the "Archie needs more time" camp vs the "Archie's in over his head" camp. Something that is not going to be decided, one way or another, over the next several months.
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The press hypes games. It’s how they get people interested in reading their drivel.
A down Big Ten? It’s never good to drink the bong water buddy. Big Ten got 8 teams in the tournament (most of any conference) and all but Wisconsin won at least one game (best in tournament). You’re really not that bright.
It was average at best. Far below the ACC or SEC. Certainly nothing to brag about.
As usual, you're a dumb sh!t.
Team Rankings - Big 12 (1); Big 10 (2); ACC (3); SEC (4).
ESPN - ACC (1); Big 10 (2); Big 12 (3); SEC (4). Big 10 ranked 1st in Top-to-Bottom.
Bleacher Report (Mid-Season) - Big 12 (1); Big 10 (2); ACC (3); SEC (4).
RealTimeRPI - Big 12 (1); ACC (2); Big 10 (3); SEC (4).
Stadium - ACC (1); Big 10 (2); Big 12 (3); SEC (4).
Warren Nolan - Big 12 (1); Big 10 (2); ACC (3); SEC (4).
Far below the SEC? Out of six different rankings the Big 10 was 2nd five times; SEC was 4th in all of them.
ACC? Half of the rankings had them behind the Big 10. While they might be considered better, without question (except in your CDK world
) they are in no way far below.Do you ever get tired of having your a$$ handed to you? You're really not good at this at all.
You're literally on crack.
RPI has the Big Ten ranked 2nd above the ACC and the SEC
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf
Bart Torvik ranks them 2nd behind the ACC and SEC
http://barttorvik.com/trank.php?yea...1&top=0&quad=5&venue=All&type=All&mingames=0#
Kenpom ranks then the #1 confernce
https://kenpom.com/register.php?frompage=1
Big Ten being average at best is hands down the dumbest thing you've ever said on here and that's saying something.
lol ......... you're so clueless .
Illinois has 11. Iowa has 10 with Bohannan expected to be out for a considerable amount of time. Michigan only has 10. Minnesota 11. Nebraska has 13 but 2 are ineligible, giving them 11.Northwestern only has 9, with a 10th sitting out. Rutgers has 10. And Wisconsin has 8.
Not one team in conference has 13 available players for next year. The ones not listed each have 12, with two having 1 ineligible player each.
You are completely FOS and clueless. Which begs the question. Do you often speak when you have no clue what you're talking about? From what I've seen, I'd say yes. You should probably STFU and go sell t-shirts.
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Top to bottom the Big Ten was better and it's not even close. Don't let the ACC being top heavy confuse you. There was a big drop off from UNC to Florida State and an even bigger from Florida State to Virginia Tech. Tech lost Penn freaking State. Michigan beat UNC by 20 and MSU ended Duke's season with 2 of their 3 best players hurt. No one will confuse UVa, Duke, and UNC as 3 of the best teams in the country last year, but as a conference as a whole, no chance the ACC was better top to bottom and there's statistics that back that point.
STOP.BEING.DENSE.
Except three of our 11 players were injured last year so we could be down to 8 at some point. I assume Thompson will be healthy but Davis and Hunter who knows. Davis cannot seem to stay healthy for long periods of time.
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