Yeah, I just remember it was a big deal under Reagan and I thought it was a bad decision at the time.The bulk of it happened from mid-60s to late-70s, but Reagan certainly seemed to get that wrong
Yeah, I just remember it was a big deal under Reagan and I thought it was a bad decision at the time.The bulk of it happened from mid-60s to late-70s, but Reagan certainly seemed to get that wrong
Hence my use of the all caps 'MOST PEOPLE'Sane people voted it down in Minneapolis.
I'm sure a social worker was going to talk Ramos down...
He just bought the AR-15s and ammo last week.I'm sure a social worker was going to talk Ramos down...
Beto O'Roarke butted in on the Texas' Governor's press conference today. Acted like a real asshole.
Why don't you bitch about Beto trying to turn this into his political advantage?
By the way, the Governor called him a 'sick sof-of-a-bitch', which is quite accurate.
EDIT: It wasn't the Governor - another official on stage.
Don’t now what happened to the link, but it’s repeated below.
For #1, the casual tossing around of the phrase “toxic masculinity” and the depiction of young men as perverts or causing them to devolve into Incels has become quite a problem. It causes boys to tune out and be disenfranchised. It’s all over the internet, social media and in many homes - especially those of single mothers.
Young Men and Society: We Will Only Get Out What We Put In
When our book Man Interrupted was published in 2016, concern over boy’s and men’s issues, however legitimate, could not have been more unpopular. It’s a new world out there for everybody, yet amidst the shifting economic, social, and technological climates, boys are getting left behind. There...ifstudies.org
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Wasn't Biden going to put Beto in charge of figuring out gun laws?
Reagan pushed for California too close down institutions when he was governor. Jerry Brown carried that torch and decimated the California system.I thought so too but LBJ started the trend.
Don't know yet what Ramos' past was, but if he had any other run-ins with LEO that were non-violent, the social worker could have made an impact earlier in his life so that we didn't get to this point. I also didn't suggest SWs would solve everything....I think I even mentioned non-violent/dangerous situations not necessarily being appropriate.I'm sure a social worker was going to talk Ramos down...
I'm pretty liberal and I've never cared much for Beto. Typical celebrity politician who has never reallly accomplished much.Wasn't Biden going to put Beto in charge of figuring out gun laws?
What the hell does do with my comments to do with Beto O'Roake? I was talking about dead children or is that simply too hard for hard for you to process?Beto O'Roarke butted in on the Texas' Governor's press conference today. Acted like a real asshole.
Why don't you bitch about Beto trying to turn this into his political advantage?
By the way, the Governor called him a 'sick sof-of-a-bitch', which is quite accurate.
EDIT: It wasn't the Governor - another official on stage.
Don't know yet what Ramos' past was, but if he had any other run-ins with LEO that were non-violent, the social worker could have made an impact earlier in his life so that we didn't get to this point. I also didn't suggest SWs would solve everything....I think I even mentioned non-violent/dangerous situations not necessarily being appropriate.
Your response is disingenuous to the hilt.
You get what you pay for. If it were a priority to us, we'd find ways to make changes. Just like everything else. Not a quick fix, necessarily, but progress towards a solution.We can't even get proper mental and behavioral health professionals at medical facilities. The idea that we're going to get SWs that can address serious issues in high-stakes circumstances is ignorant.
You are probably right. It takes special and skilled people to fully understand illness of all kinds. Hell we pay excellent wages and still can’t find skilled or unskilled laborers. It’s great in a perfect world though.We can't even get proper mental and behavioral health professionals at medical facilities. The idea that we're going to get SWs that can address serious issues in high-stakes circumstances is ignorant.
Easy buttons.You get what you pay for. If it were a priority to us, we'd find ways to make changes. Just like everything else. Not a quick fix, necessarily, but progress towards a solution.
Or just do nothing. We're good at that.
number of other cities across the US are either putting together or considering similar programs.
You seemed to miss a letter.A three member team for one of the largest cities in the country... that'll do it.
I guess that kinda kills the "let them have fistfights to blow off some steam" theory from a few pages back.
No, if read the news that’s what was being reported. That’s what Paul Gosar was tweeting.19 children and two teachers are dead, and you try to be funny. Most of your posts are harmless but this one is really tasteless.
No, it's part of an actual strategy but the right keeps deflecting from it while offering nothing but platitudes and prayers.The gun lobby is a.problem but not the biggest problem. The Democrats push stupid stuff that are only political talking points. The best example is licensing and registration. That doesn’t do a damn thing. As I said, the first order of business should be the dangerous consumer products. But democrats keep wanting to regulate people because that’s what they do.
We do produce more nuts than we used to. And you’re exactly right it begins in Elementary School. Why wouldn’t young kids from unstable families be confused? Look at the social bull we start teaching at a young age. Hell they don’t even know if they’re a boy or girl.Nuts are a big issue. But not just with guns. Nuts push people off of the subway platform into the path of a train. We seem to produce nuts. It begins in elementary school. Kids who don’t have stable families are very vulnerable. I think schools fail vulnerable boys and the problem is getting worse.
I don’t know how we keep nut jobs separated from guns. I’d start with simply taking ultra-hazardous guns out of commerce. I’m talking about semi-autos with high velocity ammo.
That seems like an excellent approach but NOT at the expense of police boots on the ground. And that’s exactly what morons were calling for in 2020. A lot of morons. Many in here.Operating for more than three decades, the Crisis Assistance Helping Out on the Streets program in Eugene, Oregon, dispatches a medic and a crisis worker instead of a police officer to non-violent calls involving mental illness, homelessness and addiction. In Dallas, three-person teams made up of a paramedic, a social worker from a local hospital and a police officer are dispatched to mental health calls in the south central part of the city. A number of other cities across the US are either putting together or considering similar programs.
one success story from Kentucky
Ignorant? hardly.
The US police department that decided to hire social workers
In 2016, the Alexandria, Kentucky, police chief talked the city into hiring a social worker – and four years on, the current chief sees the program as indispensablewww.theguardian.com
This is the problem. This is where - and we see it time and again in these shootings and in terrorism - they’re known offenders to police but they cannot “do” anything about it. That has to change.
He just bought the AR-15s and ammo last week.
No reported criminal record previously and reportedly only posted on FB 30 minutes before that he would shoot his grandmother and then 15 minutes before that he was going to shoot up the school.
He also dropped out of school during the pandemic. Many of us said at the time that this would cause social upheaval.
Precisely - at a minimum. And then start to go after the military grade hardware.Seems some common sense solutions would be at a minimum.... to implement what Florida did after the Parkland shooting. Red flag laws and age 21 minimum to purchase a gun.
How dare Beto O'Rourke turn a political event into a political event.Beto O'Roarke butted in on the Texas' Governor's press conference today. Acted like a real asshole.
Why don't you bitch about Beto trying to turn this into his political advantage?
By the way, the Governor called him a 'sick sof-of-a-bitch', which is quite accurate.
EDIT: It wasn't the Governor - another official on stage.
Flag em. Put em on a list.This is the problem. This is where - and we see it time and again in these shootings and in terrorism - they’re known offenders to police but they cannot “do” anything about it. That has to change.
Access to guns is one thing, but these nut jobs were always going to try to kill people.
No it doesn't.I guess that kinda kills the "let them have fistfights to blow off some steam" theory from a few pages back.
Yeah this list helps debunk the concept that guns equal safety.That’s a scary ass list. Should be the safest place on the planet.
No, if read the news that’s what was being reported. That’s what Paul Gosar was tweeting.
I go back to my story about how my biggest gun zealot friend once struck out swinging in a critical moment in a weekend, beer league softball game because he was too nervous and amped up.You raise some interesting points. Shows you that even professionals have trouble taking down a person with a gun wearing body armor.
I think about this everytime someone suggests arming teachers. Fwiw, my wife is an elementary teacher and I own several guns for hunting.
I don't think arming teachers is the answer. In fact I think there would be more deadly accidents having teachers with guns than actual lives saved.
Now there's a reliable source.No, if read the news that’s what was being reported. That’s what Paul Gosar was tweeting.
Put ‘em in a ****ing institution.Flag em. Put em on a list.
No guns for you until you get off the list.
Paul Gosar needs to be voted out as fast as @The Vid can do the GIF.Paul Gosar also deleted the tweet because it was a insanely stupid thing to tweet.