Alec Baldwin fired prop gun that killed woman on film set of Rust
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I can guarantee this, when the guy handed Baldwin that gun & told him it was "cold"/wasn't loaded, in the eyes of the law/legally, Baldwin is still guilty, just as much as if the guy handing it to him said it was hot/loaded.
Bottom line here, Baldwin pointed the gun at her, & Baldwin pulled the trigger. Now she's dead, & another person injured. More than likely, her family will settle out of court on a compensation dollar number, & the other person who was injured will do the same.
Obviously if it went to criminal court, Baldwin would plead to involuntary manslaughter/criminal negligence, which is what he would be charged with, if charges were brought, which they won't be.
Guns don't kill
Idiots & criminals do
As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about and just pulling "facts" from your ass.
And the safety of weapons on a film set isn't the responsibility of the actors but rather the movie's armorer.
Film crew voiced complaints before fatal on-set shooting
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fired a fatal gunshot from a prop gun that he had been told was safe, seven camera crew members for the movie he was filming walked off the job to protest conditions and production issues that included safety concerns
Maybe he doesn't examine every post like you do, Vidiot.
You're as much of a ****ing dumbass as Baldwin.As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about and just pulling "facts" from your ass.
And the safety of weapons on a film set isn't the responsibility of the actors but rather the movie's armorer.
Film crew voiced complaints before fatal on-set shooting
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fired a fatal gunshot from a prop gun that he had been told was safe, seven camera crew members for the movie he was filming walked off the job to protest conditions and production issues that included safety concernsabcnews.go.com
You don't point a guy - loaded or otherwise - at a person unless you mean to shoot them. Anyone who is familiar with weapons knows that.
Really - take a gun safety class sometime and you won't be as ignorant.
No, they both have a mother and father that were married!
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Anyone familiar with movies, can you answer this question: Why do filmmakers need a prop gun that shoots anything?
In this day and age, I'm dumbfounded that they use guns that have the ability to shoot live rounds at all in these films. I had always assumed the guns were completely inert and then they added the sound effects, etc. in through editing.
In this day and age, I'm dumbfounded that they use guns that have the ability to shoot live rounds at all in these films. I had always assumed the guns were completely inert and then they added the sound effects, etc. in through editing.
Good question. Hell, they do voicovers all the time. How hard could it be to 'voiceover' a gunshot?
Your first paragraph is entirely inaccurate. Learn something about the law of the jurisdiction before you yammer on about it. Google "New Mexico excusable homicide" if you really need a starting point.
Your third paragraph is actually dumber. No decent criminal defense attorney would let Baldwin plead guilty to anything in a case like this. The kind of attorneys that Baldwin would hire would laugh all the way to the bank, and laugh even harder with Baldwin at a bar after the verdict. The odds of a conviction in a case like that are like, 1 percent.
If only there was a good guy with a gun, they could have stopped Alec Baldwin!
Serious question: Do you ever post anything worth reading? Your posts are the equivalent of a 6th grader. (No offense to 6th graders)
I don't hate you, though you may hate me; but it would be great to actually engage in some kind of meaningful dialogue with you about your political positions.
Let me try to dumb it down for you.
This was a movie set. They use props in movies, including guns, for authenticity and actors do raise, aim and fire weapons once the gun has been cleared by the armorer. And there are dozens of people on a movie set so there's danger to both cast and crew, regardless of aim, if the armorer screws up (like in this instance, where the gun had a live round) or there's otherwise a breach in safety protocol.
The armorer in this instance made the weapon available for the scene, the assistant director shouted "cold gun" and handed it to the actor for the scene, and the tragedy followed.
You have no idea what he was aiming at because that fact hasn't yet been publicly disclosed. The scene may have called for him to point the gun in the direction of the camera, which could explain why the cinematographer and director were hit, but that's pure speculation at this point.
You won't back down from your "Baldwin's a killer" nonsense because he's parodied a guy who you worship. With the possible exception of Lucy, you are the most disingenuous and ignorant poster on the board.
I don't seriously respond to idiots like Vid, no.
I post plenty worth reading, but you don't like my viewpoint so, in your eyes, it's not worth reading.
You have no idea how biased you are. I don't hate you, either. I just see how 2 dimensional you are and post in a manner you understand.
When have you ever tried to engage me in any kind of meaningful dialogue? You don't. It's all insults - just like the post I'm responding to. Try posting to me in a civil manner and I'll be glad to engage in meaningful dialogue. I don't respond in a meaningful way to insults or posters who consistently avoid facts.
I don't have any idea who he was aiming at, even though it hit the cinematographer?
Yeah, I think I do know.
And Baldwin is a killer - that's what this thread is about. I'm sure he didn't mean to do it, but his stupidity caused a killing.
Again, you don't point a gun at someone - rule #1.
"“Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,” said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services."
Alec Baldwin ignored the No. 1 rule of gun safety: Hollywood weapons expert
Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of “Rust,” a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.
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Yeah I think Biden is a killer, the drone strike in Afghanistan comes to mind.I don't have any idea who he was aiming at, even thought it hit the cinematographer?
Yeah, I think I do know.
And Biden is a killer - that's what this thread is about. I'm sure he didn't mean to do it, but his stupidity caused a killing.
Again, you don't point a gun at someone - rule #1.
"“Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,” said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services."
Alec Baldwin ignored the No. 1 rule of gun safety: Hollywood weapons expert
Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of “Rust,” a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.
You know nothing about common sense & the law. Her family will get much more money/compensation from Baldwin with an 'out of court settlement'. Clearly this was an accident, & no prosecuting attorney would file 'negligible homicide'/manslaughter/3rd degree murder charges if the family of the victim wants no charges filed, & this isn't a reoccurring type of thing for the accused/Baldwin, which it isn't. No animosity or intent was shown here.
In a case like this, you file charges with 'intent' or attempted murder, & clearly those two charges are nonexistent here. If her family & Baldwin can't come to an agreement in a pre civil case/prosecution here, Baldwin will be charged & lose, forcing him to pay damages in a civil case. No charges will be filed criminally or civilly, because an out of court settlement will be reached by the two parties.
Care to make a wager on the charges filed, or out of court settlement?
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Hey numbnuts, I've practiced criminal law for 17 years. You aren't in a position to tell me shit about criminal cases. 3rd degree murder isn't even a thing in New Mexico, genius. They have 1st degree murder, 2nd degree murder, voluntary manslaughter, and involuntary manslaughter. An accidental shooting doesn't qualify for any of them.
I'm sure her family will receive a settlement from someone, but it won't be because Alec Baldwin was afraid of getting charged with crimes.
How am I supposed to make a bet with you when you don't even know what you are saying?
Rich coming from you. Look back at your posting history. Hilarious…
With all due respect, the claims of expertise on this board are often more fantasy than fact. Not fair to lump you in, but when you’ve got guys like Outside Shooter claiming to be experts & then repeated shitting the bed on all of his claims, one tends to be skeptical. Hell, Goat even claims to be a lawyer…
Probably closer to slander, but full disclosure IANAL.
Have you seen any reports of what happened? Why was he pointing a gun at two people not in the movie?
It makes sense he was pointing toward the camera. It doesn't make sense that live rounds were on site.
There were two other accidental charges on the set by Baldwin's stunt double. At some point production should have been shutdown and (new) experts brought in. And that point was the first time it happened.
Why isn't there a unique bore size for prop guns such that only specially made blank rounds fit into the chamber?
I heard someone say that films often use period pieces that they rent. Those companies also rent to people who want to take said weapon to a range and fire it.
This is what I'm saying. The money in Hollywood could easily support an industry that supplies only safe guns that are never loaded with live ammo.
Of course, the companies supplying those guns will always make more money by finding other uses for them when studios don't need them.
