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4 more years!

On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
Perhaps you can enlighten us by giving some specific examples of how he's helped the supply chain after a year in office.

Or how he's spent all that money on 'infrastucture' that he's responsible for.

I'm sure there have to be tons of examples - do share!
 
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Not in the least. Being gay disqualifies him for many, of course. I would vote for a gay person in a heartbeat. Not Pete though. What Pete pulled is as low as it gets for me. He's the opposite of Musk. He's a taker
Bowel would vote for him BECAUSE he's gay. Pete, I mean, of course......
 
He would do some mopping up.... literally, he'd be the cleaning guy with a real mop.

Pete might dazzle you with word salad speeches, but to the adults, he's just another empty suit.
He would destroy both Biden and Trump in a debate. Both Trump and Biden are too stupid or too old to compete in that arena. One of which being both.

This is not me saying Pete would have a chance in an election though.
 
And, people who think Biden is too incompetent and too unenergetic to get anything done should consider whether we want the government to do much. Maybe we're better off with a do-nothing government in the present climate.
What happened to 'Build Back Better'.

Evidently you think his next slogan should be "Aw, Screw It"
 
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He would destroy both Biden and Trump in a debate. Both Trump and Biden are too stupid or too old to compete in that arena. One of which being both.

This is not me saying Pete would have a chance in an election though.
Dazzling with word salad doesn't win a debate.
 
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Seems like damn near half the country is "working from home" at least partly, but no one has ever listed what can't be done unless Pete commutes an hour each way to a physical location with other time wasted to facilitate his cabinet security team.

Maybe there could be something, but who knows.
LOL Remember the time he got caught taking a limo close to his office and then taking a bike the rest of the way?

Classic. I'm sure that wouldn't be part of any political ads against him.
 
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Which is why I never criticize or diminish a soldiers value. Especially when they served in war.

Why do you hate our troops? Do you also hate America?
I didn't diminish his value in the military. I just stated his job. I'm not the one making him into a war hero.

You need to talk to INRanger - he's the one who disparages anyone who didn't serve in the field.
 
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Biden? He was at the top of his law school class!
A mistake? 🤣

"In 1968, Biden earned a Juris Doctor from Syracuse University College of Law, ranked 76th in his class of 85, after failing a course due to an acknowledged "mistake" when he plagiarized a law review article for a paper he wrote in his first year at law school."
 
Wow, talking about statements just to talk. You personally know as a fact when the greatest economy ever occurred? What is your measuring stick for this? You personally? You have all the facts from the 1800s, or just making a statement to sound important? Sounds like just what you accuse Trump of doing.
How about this youngster- the last time the federal budget deficit was 0- but you evidently are a Republican taker who doesn’t feel the ironic pain
 
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The Russians didn't release Wikileaks info.
Ummm, no. Wikileaks obviously released the Podesta emails. But it was the Russians who gave Wikileaks the emails.
A joint statement from the department of homeland security and the director of intelligence for election security was issued confirming that Russia directed the cyber-attacks of the DNC.
 
Once again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I guess anonymity spares you the embarrassment of being wrong time after time.
Yeah, I got him confused with Desantis, who actually was a JAG officer.

Pete was an inteligence analyst. And a driver. I guess that qualifies him for his current position. :rolleyes:

Perhaps you can enlighten us by giving some specific examples of how he's helped the supply chain after a year in office.

Or how he's spent all that money on 'infrastucture' that he's responsible for.

I'm sure there have to be tons of examples - do share!
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Ummm, no. Wikileaks obviously released the Podesta emails. But it was the Russians who gave Wikileaks the emails.
A joint statement from the department of homeland security and the director of intelligence for election security was issued confirming that Russia directed the cyber-attacks of the DNC.
The 'cyber attack' was via e-mails.

Any proof the Russians gave Wikileaks the e-mails?
 
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The 'cyber attack' was via e-mails.

Any proof the Russians gave Wikilinks the e-mails?
As in, do we have a certified email from Vladmir Putin asking Julian Asange to release the emails? No. But SEVERAL government agencies (which if you remember at the time was still controlled by Republicans) have concluded with high confidence that Russia was the guilty party.

"On July 22, 2016, a person or entity going by the moniker "Guccifer 2.0" claimed on a WordPress-hosted blog to have been acting alone in hacking the DNC.[9][10] He also claimed to send significant amounts of stolen electronic DNC documents to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has not revealed the source for their leaked emails.[11] However, cybersecurity experts and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, and the editor for Ars Technica, have rejected the claims of "Guccifer 2.0" and have determined, on the basis of substantial evidence, that the cyberattacks were committed by two Russian state-sponsored groups (Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear).[12]

According to separate reports in the New York Times and the Washington Post, U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded with "high confidence"[13] that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the DNC.[13][14] While the U.S. intelligence community has concluded that Russia was behind the cyberattack, intelligence officials told the Washington Post that they had "not reached a conclusion about who passed the emails to WikiLeaks" and so did not know "whether Russian officials directed the leak."[14] A number of experts and cybersecurity analysts believe that "Guccifer 2.0" is probably a Russian government disinformation cover story to distract attention away from the DNC breach by the two Russian intelligence agencies.[2][3][4][5][15]

President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a discussion about computer security issues, which took place as a side segment during the then-ongoing G20 summit in China in September 2016. Obama said Russian hacking stopped after his warning to Putin.[16]

In a joint statement on October 7, 2016, the United States Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence stated that the US intelligence community is confident that the Russian government directed the breaches and the release of the obtained material in an attempt to "… interfere with the US election process."["

So do they know for sure? No. Is it really really really likely. Yes.
 
Good Lord will we ever again find leaders who aren’t decades behind their peak mental capacity. Mayor Pete would devour either Biden or Trump in a debate. It’s laughable how bad are our candidates for the highest office in the nation- corrupt morally and idiotic mentally- just flipping great. Can all megalomaniacs die of a stroke now please?
Mayor Peter would do what? LOL, Trump would have him crying in two minutes....
 
Ok just let’s stick with facts. Congress appropriates all funds- Congress provided Ukraine funding and Trump intervened to use funding to leverage Ukraine to help investigate Biden family- these facts are indisputable. Both Trump and Biden are corrupt and likely criminal- don’t be blindly partisan and incorrect on facts. Trump was impeached twice neither time was it related to the Mueller investigation- the topic you accept on Trump’s reasoning that it was a hoax. Some of us objectively do wonder why Russia worked to get elected in 2016- this fact is also established in all circles other than Tucker nightly partisan preach. Folks who only watch one source are either lazy or not overly intelligent
Indisputable, right.
 
As in, do we have a certified email from Vladmir Putin asking Julian Asange to release the emails? No. But SEVERAL government agencies (which if you remember at the time was still controlled by Republicans) have concluded with high confidence that Russia was the guilty party.

"On July 22, 2016, a person or entity going by the moniker "Guccifer 2.0" claimed on a WordPress-hosted blog to have been acting alone in hacking the DNC.[9][10] He also claimed to send significant amounts of stolen electronic DNC documents to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has not revealed the source for their leaked emails.[11] However, cybersecurity experts and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, and the editor for Ars Technica, have rejected the claims of "Guccifer 2.0" and have determined, on the basis of substantial evidence, that the cyberattacks were committed by two Russian state-sponsored groups (Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear).[12]

According to separate reports in the New York Times and the Washington Post, U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded with "high confidence"[13] that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the DNC.[13][14] While the U.S. intelligence community has concluded that Russia was behind the cyberattack, intelligence officials told the Washington Post that they had "not reached a conclusion about who passed the emails to WikiLeaks" and so did not know "whether Russian officials directed the leak."[14] A number of experts and cybersecurity analysts believe that "Guccifer 2.0" is probably a Russian government disinformation cover story to distract attention away from the DNC breach by the two Russian intelligence agencies.[2][3][4][5][15]

President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a discussion about computer security issues, which took place as a side segment during the then-ongoing G20 summit in China in September 2016. Obama said Russian hacking stopped after his warning to Putin.[16]

In a joint statement on October 7, 2016, the United States Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence stated that the US intelligence community is confident that the Russian government directed the breaches and the release of the obtained material in an attempt to "… interfere with the US election process."["

So do they know for sure? No. Is it really really really likely. Yes.
You know you lose credibility when the media sites you use are the NTY and Washington Post, right? They were so in bag for Hillary, it was sickening. They led the whole 'Russian Collusion Hoax'.

And CrowdStrike? Really?

"Former FBI director James Comey, who led the early phases of the Russia investigation, testified in 2017 that it would have been better if the DNC gave the servers to the FBI, but the FBI was able to get the forensic information it needed from CrowdStrike."

So, the FBI didn't check the servers themselves - they got screen images from Crowdstrike.


"Sussmann hired CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that publicly triggered the Russiagate saga by lodging the still unproven claim that Russia was behind the hack of Democratic National Committee emails released by WikiLeaks."


After 51 former intelligence officials declared the Hunter Biden laptop to be Russian disinformation, I wouldn't trust the FBI or CIA to be exactly honest in the entire situation and I'm surprised any objective person would, either.

Addendum to the Substack link about the indicted Sussmann and his association with Crowdstrike:

"And it was Sussmann who controlled what the FBI was allowed to see. After bringing CrowdStrike on board, Sussmann pushed aggressively to publicize the firm's conclusion that Russian government hackers had attacked the DNC server, according to a December 2016 account in the New York Times."

"Within a day, CrowdStrike confirmed that the intrusion had originated in Russia," the Times reported, citing Sussmann's recollection. Sussmann and DNC executives had their first formal meeting with senior FBI officials in June 2016, where they encouraged the bureau to publicly endorse CrowdStrike's findings:

Among the early requests at that meeting, according to participants: that the federal government make a quick "attribution" formally blaming actors with ties to Russian government for the attack to make clear that it was not routine hacking but foreign espionage.
You have a presidential election underway here and you know that the Russians have hacked into the D.N.C.,” Mr. Sussmann said, recalling the message to the F.B.I. “We need to tell the American public that. And soon.”
But the FBI was not ready to point the finger at Russia. As the Senate Intelligence Committee later reported, "CrowdStrike still had not provided the FBI with forensic images nor an unredacted copy of their [CrowdStrike’s] report."
 
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You know you lose credibility when the media sites you use are the NTY and Washington Post, right? They were so in bag for Hillary, it was sickening. They led the whole 'Russian Collusion Hoax'.

And CrowdStrike? Really?

"Former FBI director James Comey, who led the early phases of the Russia investigation, testified in 2017 that it would have been better if the DNC gave the servers to the FBI, but the FBI was able to get the forensic information it needed from CrowdStrike."

So, the FBI didn't check the servers themselves - they got screen images from Crowdstrike.


"Sussmann hired CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that publicly triggered the Russiagate saga by lodging the still unproven claim that Russia was behind the hack of Democratic National Committee emails released by WikiLeaks."


After 51 former intelligence officials declared the Hunter Biden laptop to be Russian disinformation, I wouldn't trust the FBI or CIA to be exactly honest in the entire situation and I'm surprised any objective person would, either.

Addendum to the Substack link about the indicted Sussmann and his association with Crowdstrike:

"And it was Sussmann who controlled what the FBI was allowed to see. After bringing CrowdStrike on board, Sussmann pushed aggressively to publicize the firm's conclusion that Russian government hackers had attacked the DNC server, according to a December 2016 account in the New York Times."

"Within a day, CrowdStrike confirmed that the intrusion had originated in Russia," the Times reported, citing Sussmann's recollection. Sussmann and DNC executives had their first formal meeting with senior FBI officials in June 2016, where they encouraged the bureau to publicly endorse CrowdStrike's findings:


But the FBI was not ready to point the finger at Russia. As the Senate Intelligence Committee later reported, "CrowdStrike still had not provided the FBI with forensic images nor an unredacted copy of their [CrowdStrike’s] report."
Go Durham!
 
You know you lose credibility when the media sites you use are the NTY and Washington Post, right? They were so in bag for Hillary, it was sickening. They led the whole 'Russian Collusion Hoax'.

And CrowdStrike? Really?

"Former FBI director James Comey, who led the early phases of the Russia investigation, testified in 2017 that it would have been better if the DNC gave the servers to the FBI, but the FBI was able to get the forensic information it needed from CrowdStrike."

So, the FBI didn't check the servers themselves - they got screen images from Crowdstrike.


"Sussmann hired CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm that publicly triggered the Russiagate saga by lodging the still unproven claim that Russia was behind the hack of Democratic National Committee emails released by WikiLeaks."


After 51 former intelligence officials declared the Hunter Biden laptop to be Russian disinformation, I wouldn't trust the FBI or CIA to be exactly honest in the entire situation and I'm surprised any objective person would, either.

Addendum to the Substack link about the indicted Sussmann and his association with Crowdstrike:

"And it was Sussmann who controlled what the FBI was allowed to see. After bringing CrowdStrike on board, Sussmann pushed aggressively to publicize the firm's conclusion that Russian government hackers had attacked the DNC server, according to a December 2016 account in the New York Times."

"Within a day, CrowdStrike confirmed that the intrusion had originated in Russia," the Times reported, citing Sussmann's recollection. Sussmann and DNC executives had their first formal meeting with senior FBI officials in June 2016, where they encouraged the bureau to publicly endorse CrowdStrike's findings:


But the FBI was not ready to point the finger at Russia. As the Senate Intelligence Committee later reported, "CrowdStrike still had not provided the FBI with forensic images nor an unredacted copy of their [CrowdStrike’s] report."
Honest question then: What source would you trust if it came out and said that the Russians were responsible for the hack. You have now dismissed the FBI, the CIA, and the Department of Homeland Security. You went after Crowdstrike, but also conveniently ignored Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, and Ars Technica.

Would a Fox News source work?
 
You do realize we are pissing in the wind trying to get these Trump zombies to actually accept fact? I am starting to realize many in this water cooler are not graduates of IU and don’t pay any tax whatsoever- they can’t thus fathom a balanced federal budget- they just believe what the puppet master tells them. They are intellectually lazy or just not very intelligent. I’m leaving this chat, and have ignored all who will not even read when they request a link- I suspect these folks are young dumb and full of cum- not worth your or my efforts
Says a American Communist.
 
Says a American Communist.
Says a sexually frustrated heavy set guy living in his parents house- when you ring my door I’ll still tip you for the pizza. I’m a working tax paying adult- you are not
 
Honest question then: What source would you trust if it came out and said that the Russians were responsible for the hack. You have now dismissed the FBI, the CIA, and the Department of Homeland Security. You went after Crowdstrike, but also conveniently ignored Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, and Ars Technica.

Would a Fox News source work?
Because I recognized Crowdstrike, NYT, and WaPo and decided I didn't need to spend all day researching whatever bogus source you decided to throw out.

The fact CrowdStrike was hired by Sussmann tells me all I need to know about their credibility. They were pushing a narrative that Trump was colluding with the Russians to win the election by pushing the FBI to do something they said they didn't have enough proof to do.

Look, if you want to believe it, fine. It may be true. But I need to see evidence other than 'our intelligence agencies say it's true'.
 
How about this youngster- the last time the federal budget deficit was 0- but you evidently are a Republican taker who doesn’t feel the ironic pain
That didn't answer the question . Youngster? While maybe flattering, shows again you making false statements you have no clue about.
 
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Says a sexually frustrated heavy set guy living in his parents house- when you ring my door I’ll still tip you for the pizza. I’m a working tax paying adult- you are not
Wow you are just full of gems of information aren't you? LMAO, you hate Trump for ''lying'' yet you spew sh*t on here like a complete fool. I love people like you that show what being a liberal is really like in your twisted mindset. There seems to be a new liberal idiot every week on here. You win the prize this week. Hey guess what one of your liberal leaders on here, apparently lives in a trailer and delivers pizza . Put your horn back in it's case and go back to your cave.
 
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