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Pete is polished, professional, pleasant, articulate and bright.

He doesn't have a chance.
No he's a virtue-signaler who doesn't go to work and avails himself of benefits no one else in the country, including those on the General Schedule, receive. That's why he doesn't have a chance. He's gov personified. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher, nor would anyone I talk politics with regularly.
 
No he's a virtue-signaler who doesn't go to work and avails himself of benefits no one else in the country, including those on the General Schedule, receive. That's why he doesn't have a chance. He's gov personified. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher, nor would anyone I talk politics with regularly.
Come on you know why he doesn't have a chance? Why try to muddy the water.
 
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No he's a virtue-signaler who doesn't go to work and avails himself of benefits no one else in the country, including those on the General Schedule, receive. That's why he doesn't have a chance. He's gov personified. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher, nor would anyone I talk politics with regularly.

Come on, the real reason is that there is a D next to his name.

If you held republicans to the same standard as Pete, then there wouldn't be any republican that would get your vote ;)
 
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No he's a virtue-signaler who doesn't go to work and avails himself of benefits no one else in the country, including those on the General Schedule, receive. That's why he doesn't have a chance. He's gov personified. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher, nor would anyone I talk politics with regularly.
No. He's entirely too smart and too civil for today's political environment.

And, despite the fact that he served his country and is a war vet, he'd be portrayed as a pussy because he's gay. I can see it now - - some well-funded "family values" organization called "Hombres for Heterosexuality" taking him on.
 
Come on, the real reason is that there is a D next to his name.

If you held republicans to the same standard as Pete, then there wouldn't be any republican that would get your vote ;)
Negative. I voted Dem most of my life. I was fine with Obama. I thought Biden would be Obama 2.0. A nice bridge to the next guy
 
No. He's entirely too smart and too civil for today's political environment.

And, despite the fact that he served his country and is a war vet, he'd be portrayed as a pussy because he's gay. I can see it now - - some well-funded "family values" organization called "Hombres for Heterosexuality" taking him on.
The gay part would destroy him for sure. But for me the least anyone can do is show up. The offline taking leave is no one I would ever vote for. In fact I'd knock on doors for his opponent
 
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Mayor Pete doesn't work. I'll take Biden or Trump over him. Our Fed gov attracts the worst of the worst. Compare our transportation leaders: Musk and mayor Pete. One couch surfing working around the clock the other home on paid leave
Kloubacher would beat Biden in the primary. She should run
 
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The gay part would destroy him for sure. But for me the least anyone can do is show up. The offline taking leave is no one I would ever vote for. In fact I'd knock on doors for his opponent
On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
 
On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
He said he was "offline" for a month. At the worst possible time. He collected a check at $250k salary to sit home, a benefit offered to literally no one else in the country.

If adopting kids is your priority. Super! Do it. But don't ask us to pay for it less than six months into the job. Sounds perfectly suited for a virtue signaling Dem in this inept admin.
 
On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!

If Pete was a republican, then it would be a non-issue.

Just like it was a non-issue for mcm when Scott Pruitt filled his office with expensive furnishings on the taxpayer's dime. But Scott's not a taker.
 
On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
Oh and don't forget all while Biden was asking supply chain workers to sacrifice and work longer hours. Lmao. Pete.
 
Pre or post election? If you want to claim that the number of lies made up about Trump Post-election compared to those about Hillary, I would likely agree with that (and in fairness, Trump put his foot in his mouth with dumb statements so many times that it was fairly easy for anybody to make something up and it wouldn't be far fetched to have come from Trump's mouth). But Pre-election, I'm trying to think of any significant lies that were out there. The pee tape, maybe?
Well, for starters the vast majority of the Steele Dossier has been found to be full of made-up stories, with the Clinton team paying for those made up stories. Does that count?
 
No. He's entirely too smart and too civil for today's political environment.

And, despite the fact that he served his country and is a war vet, he'd be portrayed as a pussy because he's gay. I can see it now - - some well-funded "family values" organization called "Hombres for Heterosexuality" taking him on.
You ever been to South Bend? Its a shIthole...And you think this guy is polished and smart. He can't even run his own town. Its not worth arguing over and its the truth. Get off of it.
 
Good Lord will we ever again find leaders who aren’t decades behind their peak mental capacity. Mayor Pete would devour either Biden or Trump in a debate. It’s laughable how bad are our candidates for the highest office in the nation- corrupt morally and idiotic mentally- just flipping great. Can all megalomaniacs die of a stroke now please?
I wonder how many voters actually (1) watch the debates, and (2) change their vote based on what they saw in the debates. People seem to have their minds made up long before the debates,
 
I wonder how many voters actually (1) watch the debates, and (2) change their vote based on what they saw in the debates. People seem to have their minds made up long before the debates,

Both sides will just say the other side is lying regardless IMO. Debates have just turned into talking over the other person and answering whatever question you wanted to answer (regardless of the question actually asked).
 
I'm not crazy about voting for Biden again, but I definitely would if the choices are him and Trump. Keeping Trump from office is too important to abstain from voting.
And, people who think Biden is too incompetent and too unenergetic to get anything done should consider whether we want the government to do much. Maybe we're better off with a do-nothing government in the present climate.
 
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If Pete was a republican, then it would be a non-issue.

Just like it was a non-issue for mcm when Scott Pruitt filled his office with expensive furnishings on the taxpayer's dime. But Scott's not a taker.
Hick I hate to break it to you but do you really want a guy that can't handle a town of 100,000 with one of the worst crime rates in the state running the country? Its got nothing to do with his lifestyle choice he just is not good at what he does.


https://www.ar15.com/forums/general...-state-according-to-the-FBI/5-2101776/&page=4

https://webproze.blogspot.com/2006/05/south-bend-in-sucks.html

https://iotwreport.com/buttigieg-is-the-mayor-of-a-hithole/

https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-indiana/
 
On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
Seems like damn near half the country is "working from home" at least partly, but no one has ever listed what can't be done unless Pete commutes an hour each way to a physical location with other time wasted to facilitate his cabinet security team.

Maybe there could be something, but who knows.
 
You ever been to South Bend? Its a shIthole...And you think this guy is polished and smart. He can't even run his own town. Its not worth arguing over and its the truth. Get off of it.

Hey, It's a lot better than when he took over. And no, I wouldn't vote for him for president.

And since when is ftw the new Eden?
 
Oh and don't forget all while Biden was asking supply chain workers to sacrifice and work longer hours. Lmao. Pete.
You're really making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Applying a standard to Pete that I'm guessing you don't apply to others(maybe not). His sins are relatively minor compared to the majority of his predecessors on both sides.

That said, it was a dumb mistake.

I'd vote for Hogan or Holcomb over Biden. Are there any democrats you'd vote for over Trump? I'd think a guy like Bullock would be tough to say no to vs. Trump.
 
Seems like damn near half the country is "working from home" at least partly, but no one has ever listed what can't be done unless Pete commutes an hour each way to a physical location with other time wasted to facilitate his cabinet security team.

Maybe there could be something, but who knows.
Working from home and leave are different. He took leave. A benefit unique to him
 
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You're really making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Applying a standard to Pete that I'm guessing you don't apply to others(maybe not). His sins are relatively minor compared to the majority of his predecessors on both sides.

That said, it was a dumb mistake.

I'd vote for Hogan or Holcomb over Biden. Are there any democrats you'd vote for over Trump? I'd think a guy like Bullock would be tough to say no to vs. Trump.
It was no mistake. It was virtue-signaling me first in a time of crisis. F Pete.

As for Bullock vs Trump that's not even a question. Bullock is a Claremont guy. School's whole focus is gov, admin, and public affairs. Then Columbia law. Then governed a western red state. I don't agree with all his stuff but we would never be so lucky as to get Bullock in office
 
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Working from home and leave are different. He took leave. A benefit unique to him
Are you sure he was not performing any government duties whatsoever during this time? That would be hard to do.

I'd be surprised if a cabinet member's complete activities were fully disclosed in minute-by-minute detail, but I'm willing to learn.

I'd guess your own "vacations" sometimes get interrupted with multiple phone calls, emails etc., as do mine.
 
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Are you sure he was not performing any government duties whatsoever during this time? That would be hard to do.

I'd be surprised if a cabinet member's complete activities were fully disclosed in minute-by-minute detail, but I'm willing to learn.

I'd guess your own "vacations" sometimes get interrupted with multiple phone calls, emails etc., as do mine.
He went on leave. Paternity leave. Do you not know what that means? There's no job on earth I would have taken a month off from my first five months on the job. Much less his job.
 
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Well, for starters the vast majority of the Steele Dossier has been found to be full of made-up stories, with the Clinton team paying for those made up stories. Does that count?
No, because the public didn't know about the existence of it until after the election. It was first leaked on Buzzfeed in January of 2017.
 
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I swear if I was in a foreign government and she came to visit..... I would have holes in my lips and make numerous trips to the bathroom to LOL.

 
Pete wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell against Trump. Even Obama said so. Blacks would stay home and Hispanics would vote for Trump. This isn't hard.
I agree- Trump holds a strong allegiance from any who accept his statements as fact like “greatest economy ever” which I personally know occurred in 1990’s- but I digress. All I said about Mayor Pete is he would shred either Trump or Biden in a debate- Mayor Pete is far brighter than either of the dim bulbs we had as choice from in 2020
 
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I agree- Trump holds a strong allegiance from any who accept his statements as fact like “greatest economy ever” which I personally know occurred in 1990’s- but I digress. All I said about Mayor Pete is he would shred either Trump or Biden in a debate- Mayor Pete is far brighter than either of the dim bulbs we had as choice from in 2020
Wow, talking about statements just to talk. You personally know as a fact when the greatest economy ever occurred? What is your measuring stick for this? You personally? You have all the facts from the 1800s, or just making a statement to sound important? Sounds like just what you accuse Trump of doing.
 
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You do realize it was the Clinton foundation accused of paying for the wedding and not the campaign right? And the accusation was from emails from internal foundation employees. So hardly the Russian disinformation campaign youd like to think it is. Hell even Snopes classifies this as "unproven" which in Snopes world means yeah we can't totally refute it but we're not gonna investigate it further. But carry on with how this impacted the votes via those pesky Russians.
Hmmmm...... sounds like someone may have embellished that story.....
 
I think his point is Pete would mop them up in a debate. He would. Easily. And that we need fresh blood and ideas. Would do. Badly.

Not that pete is necessarily the person.
He would do some mopping up.... literally, he'd be the cleaning guy with a real mop.

Pete might dazzle you with word salad speeches, but to the adults, he's just another empty suit.
 

Danc here is Reuters take on the 2016 election interference. And you might better understand my stance- I will support neither Trump nor Biden going forwards and I’ll celebrate the death of one of those two as he is an existential threat to democracy
I understand your stance - you believe what you are told, yet there are very few actual instances of HOW the Russians 'interfered' or influenced the election.

The Russians didn't release Wikileaks info.

I mean, is this the Russians' fault?

STEELE ‘DOSSIER’

The committee found the FBI gave “unjustified credence” to a “dossier” of purportedly damaging information about Trump’s dealings with Russia prepared for Clinton Campaign lawyers by former British spy Christopher Steele.


We like to blame everything on those nasty Russians, but Obama was claiming it was all hysteria when he debated Romney.

Trump didn't beat Hillary because of any Russian influence, so stop beating that dead horse.
 
Pre or post election? If you want to claim that the number of lies made up about Trump Post-election compared to those about Hillary, I would likely agree with that (and in fairness, Trump put his foot in his mouth with dumb statements so many times that it was fairly easy for anybody to make something up and it wouldn't be far fetched to have come from Trump's mouth). But Pre-election, I'm trying to think of any significant lies that were out there. The pee tape, maybe?
The Russian Collusion story was going around well before the election.

Come on......
 
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On second thought, you're absolutely right. As Tucker said, what the hell was he doing home after adopting infant twins? Trying to figure out how to breastfeed?

And why should we believe Pete when he said he remained available during his leave, 24-7, for calls on major decisions including those related to supply chain issues? He graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, was a Rhodes Scholar, took leave from his job as mayor of South Bend to serve in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan. Sounds like a guy with zero credibility and zero ambition. Slacker!
He was a Navy JAG. It's not like he was leading bayonet charges.
 
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