midwolfe said:

I feel like Sparty would score fewer with Rourke than without him. Just my opinion.

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This was my thought. With Tayven we had more 3-and-outs and less just long drives keeping our defense (their offense) on the field.

crazed_hoosier2 said:

The first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging. You aren’t going to find your way out if you don’t do that.

But there’s no urgency, because the money is currently going into the black fiscal hole that all our bad money goes to. The fixes won’t be popular or pleasant - same as with entitlements. So of course politicians don’t want to touch it.

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Craze, as you know, government spending whether it is mandated (as in entitlements) or is discretionary that it does not go down a hole. It ends up back into the economy where it is spent, saved, or invested.

The political question before us is always about the size of government spending and what the spending should consist of. In addition how and what does the government do to raise the revenues necessary to cover the spending without deficits.

Finally if there are deficits, do we just accumulate them ? The final question being, for how long and how much do we allow deficits to accumulate ?

The answer to this question continues to this day to be unresolved.

Baller23Boogie said:

She doesn't want to go to a big school... she doesn't want to get lost in the shuffle.

The schools she's looking at have classes no bigger then 20-25 for the most part. I think there is value in that kind of environment, personally.

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There most definitely is value in that. But now she has to place a monetary value on that.

By the way, if you put in some work, you can find many classes outside freshman year (some in it) that are smaller at big unis. At least you could back in the early '90s.

abraxis said:

That one still stings. It opened up the flood gates, propagating seeds of doubt.

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It probably is hurting more than we know. Mullins is potentially a very direct example of the pain its causing.

This season is enormous on many different levels. We need for Rice, Carlyle, Mack, Tucker, etc... to play well, consistently get "good looks", etc... Both for on the court success, but also for evidence to combat what's causing the McNeeleys, Haralsons, Mullins, etc... to go elsewhere.

twenty02 said:

That's the sticker price or what she would actually pay after FAFSA, etc....?

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Sticker.

FASFA isn't open until like middle December, plus any scholarships she may get (not really counting on a lot there - she's my ds get degrees kid).

JamieDimonsBalls said:

I think it is very plausible that independent voters or even long-time GOPers would vote for Harris because they are Never Trumpers. Supporting Harris and hating Trump are two different things, even if the end result is the same.

Meanwhile, you still haven’t answered the question. And it’s anonymous so why can’t you state your opinions? I’ve long expressed where i differ from each party. Too many people claim to be independents or even GOPers who won’t vote for Trump, but have yet to articulate any support for conservative views.

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Very plausible. The never Trumpers see him as a threat to democracy(I'm not arguing the validity, just stating their personal perception). One that will cause lasting and maybe irreversible damage to our institutions. Where they see Harris as just another progressive Dem. Any policy she happens to get passed(non of the extreme ones have a chance BTW) can just be overturned or reformed in 4 years. So they are going with the lesser of two evils in their minds.

IU 34
MSU 13
DC Haines really earns his buck$ with this game. Cignetti and Shanahan exercise ball control and field position in the 2nd half as TJ takes over for Rourke. Great tune up for Meatchicken.

mcmurtry66 said:

Those are insane choices. Asinine. Seriously. You have to drop the hammer

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If I had more backup in the house, I would certainly give it a try.

With wife in menopause, middle kid worry about college and youngest starting puberty, I'm just trying to not get stabbed while I sleep.

Baller23Boogie said:

I can make recommendations, but she's an adult and will make decisions she thinks is best for her, no matter if I agree or not.

I just have to hope we've done a good enough job that she thinks through what she wants to do and weights the pros and cons.

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I think you better get her a rivals account and tell her to spend a few days on here, attending CoH University. It's free and she might see things in a different light.

Hell, if she plays her cards right, she might get a Dream Team invitation.

BradStevens said:

So this is where I think crazed comments come to play. What is the benefit that those 50k schools might provide someone studying education that an Indiana State, Ball State, etc. would not?

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She doesn't want to go to a big school... she doesn't want to get lost in the shuffle.

The schools she's looking at have classes no bigger then 20-25 for the most part. I think there is value in that kind of environment, personally.

kraft cheese+macaroni said:

Those bleachers are covered but I believe are utilized for Little 500.

Whoever said they run track here in the spring...no, they do not. The track facility is adjacent to Armstrong.

By virtue of last night's results, IU is once again (at minimum) Big Ten Champs. A Maryland win vs OSU or a tie makes us outright champs. Wild.

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IU isn't just winning-they are crushing opponents-video game type stats. It all turned around with that 3 goal comeback win vs. Kentucky. They're going to be dangerous in November-and maybe December.

mcmurtry66 said:

That just doesn’t make sense brother. If you’re going to be a twenty or jdb fine. Learn that things are robust. But not education

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"Robust"

twenty02 said:

$50k /yr where?? A state school?

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St Francis, in Fort Wayne, was a little over 50k a year (going off last year's numbers).

Indiana Wesleyan was like 65k when you figured in room and board (again, off last year's numbers).

Baller23Boogie said:

She's not considering a school less then 50k a year, and those are in state.

That doesn't include a meal plan, room and board, ect.

I'd punch my own mother on the nose for her to get a 25k degree.

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So this is where I think crazed comments come to play. What is the benefit that those 50k schools might provide someone studying education that an Indiana State, Ball State, etc. would not?

mcmurtry66 said:

That just doesn’t make sense brother. If you’re going to be a twenty or jdb fine. Learn that things are robust. But not education

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I can make recommendations, but she's an adult and will make decisions she thinks is best for her, no matter if I agree or not.

I just have to hope we've done a good enough job that she thinks through what she wants to do and weights the pros and cons.

JamieDimonsBalls said:

I think it is very plausible that independent voters or even long-time GOPers would vote for Harris because they are Never Trumpers. Supporting Harris and hating Trump are two different things, even if the end result is the same.

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Yes, it is.

Bowlmania said:

You post the same nonsense literally 100 times a day. This board is your life and, apparently, your job. You have daily meltdowns, launch the most vile personal attacks, and try to shout down anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. You're insane.

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The reason McMurtry’s posts bother you so much is you can’t refute them.

CO. Hoosier said:

Smart girl, given your history with employees.

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Been a boss, wasn't for me.

Haven't talked to my boss outside of a passing good morning in a month.

I've got it pretty good.

mcmurtry66 said:

Hypocrites. They often start the shit then act surprised when people stick it up their ass

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mcmurtry66 said:

So you got me thinking. I just looked it up. A kid could get a degree here for $25k. Could be a social worker, a writer, a teacher, anything without fear of debt. But it wouldn’t be fun. Two years of junior college then two years at the university of Missouri St. Louis

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She's not considering a school less then 50k a year, and those are in state.

That doesn't include a meal plan, room and board, ect.

I'd punch my own mother on the nose for her to get a 25k degree.

mcmurtry66 said:

So you got me thinking. I just looked it up. A kid could get a degree here for $25k. Could be a social worker, a writer, a teacher, anything without fear of debt. But it wouldn’t be fun. Two years of junior college then two years at the university of Missouri St. Louis

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Another non-fun option is Western Governors. I am not sure how it works for teaching. But in IT classes, one earns various IT certificates in the program. So one can move up career-wise even before graduating. Basically if one takes a course on computer security, the final is passing the CompTIA Security certificate exam.

Kelly_32 said:

With Rourke
IU 48
MSU 20

Without Rourke
IU 31
MSU 16

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I feel like Sparty would score fewer with Rourke than without him. Just my opinion.

IUCrazy2 said:

Two reasons.

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Correct. One was James Clyburn.

Two was Biden was old and senile so he needed someone even more incompetent than he is so they wouldn't remove him.

With KR
IU 31 - MSU 28

Without KR
IU 27 - MSU 24