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Whatever they did, they had to know that if they did it alone and got caught it was going to hurt them as individuals more than it hurt the team. But by acting as a group, once caught, they put CMW in a position that challenged his authority and questioned his leadership. They disrepected their teammates and the program. Not to mention they gave the finger to Hoosier nation.

And yet Woody did not identify them by name and he did not publicly shame them. Instead he let them dress for the game and even let them participate in pre-game warm-ups. What a great move! He is giving each of them the opportunity to to own up to their mistakes. He is giving them the opportunity to become better teammates and better persons. Will they seize this opportunity or will they hide in the shadows? Time will tell.

Hopefully they will organize their own press conference and collectively take responsibility. This is a real fork in the road.

Check your crystal ball and come up with how many wins to finish the season including the BTT?

We have a coach wanting to do the right thing for the University and Alumni and the players. Program is in good hands. Go Hoosiers!!!!!!

Sorry to start a thread on something other than all of the other recent threads, but did anyone catch the MSU / Wisconsin game before ours? A good chance to scout out next two opponents. I realize we don’t exactly know much about the players we will have available, and how we will respond. Still, any thoughts on State or Wisconsin?

I thought MSU looked awful. Poor guard play, offensively inept, turnover prone, and just slow. Wisconsin has been a killer in close games, they know how to close things out. Obviously Davis is a stud.
Thoughts ?

They spiking at the right moment, just beat OSU and moves to 8-5 in the conference. RAC is definitely a tough place to play at

Is it me or does JG not like it at IU? Sure he wasnt part of the idiot 5, but he seems on tv to get upset alot and yells at his teammates or theyre yelling at him after a bad possession!

He seems to be out of position a lot on defense and I saw a few instances where he looked lost on offense! There were a few possessions where he went to set a screen to the ballhandler and another IU player was doing the same which led to shot clock running down and a bad shot because they were in each others way!

Love the kid and his potential, and I think CMW is trying to help him as much as possible, but I just think JG looks way too disgruntled and not happy here! I hope Im wrong and he comes back next year, but by the way things are going, he may be thinkn about the portal!

Screw the 5 idiots who sat out. Stupid is as stupid does. I'm glad Woody suspended them and I liked his attitude about it all. It's a shame we had the Hunter technical, a banked in 3 ball and those two flagrant 1 fouls called on Galloway. Those were four killer plays in the second half.

I'm not a fan of the flagrant 1 calls at all. I get protecting kids from blows to the head or leveling a guy on a fast break but Galloway's flagrant 1s were just fouls as far as I'm concerned. Not to mention the fact that I hate all of the slowing down of games in many sports today by refs going to the monitor to review stuff.

I must admit after beating Purdue & OSU at home and taking it to Wisconsin and Iowa in away games, I thought this team had the make up of a 5-6 seed in the NCAA tourney (you guys remember the Dance don't you?)...I have been proven to be sadly mistaken to have sipped the Hoosier Kool aid

Mike Woodson postgame: "I don't know if it's a one game or not. That's a decision I gotta make as we go home tonight."

"I'm not going to give you all the in-house things. They broke rules and they were punished for it. If we're going to be a team, we set rules that guys have to obey by as a team and that's what you gotta do."

I'm even more impressed with Woodson as a result of what he stated in his presser after the game. We have a great coach folks. Give him some time to get his players and players who want to be here.

Not that anyone cares... but here's my "next day" thoughts:

1) Tired of hearing Elmore say the flagrant 1's were from "bad habits"... Trey was gassed and barely hanging on by that point (pun slightly intended)
2) When roster is full, Leal may never see the court again
3) Without XJ this team goes absolutely nowhere in a hurry
4) Miller Kopp has exactly what purpose on this team?
5) Were any of you guys young, dumb, and carefree at any point in your lives? After the years of my (mostly) misspent youth, I have a hard time railing on these young guys unless they did something truly egregious.
6) I respect CMW more than ever now for putting principle above W's. We pay a lot of lip service to that but let's be honest, most of us wouldn't have had the balls to pull off what Woody did last night. Will it cost us a tourney bid? Maybe. Will it cost us seeding if we make the tourney? Definitely. Is it a key building block for future teams? Absolutely
7) Now we know why Geronimo doesn't get more minutes as most of us have wanted... he doesn't have the discipline yet to stay in the game
8) Would LOVE to have half a team with the heart a soul of Trey. That man gave us everything he had last night. Kudos even in a loss.

This really separated the bad culture from the good IU culture kids, in a hurry. I honestly would not be upset if new scholarships open up after this selfish stunt by the suspended Failed 5. At least 1 head may need to roll for that alone if there was a ring-leader of this selfish stunt. You play all year to make the Tournament and then 5 guys do this stupid stunt before a winnable B1G road game. Honestly, unforgivable. If IU misses the NCAA Tournament now, the Failed 5 need to be held accountable.

Was looking at the box score of the Purdue / Illinois game last night. Unfortunately the building didn’t implode.

Anyways, it look like Luke Goode is getting some solid minutes at Illinois. Anyone know why we never offered the kid? He’s likely to be a great four year player for the Illini.

So, what is the truth? Does anyone really know what actually happened to get the 5 players suspended? Many people are posting thoughts, but where is the truth? Not your thoughts on what happened or any rumors. I would like to know exactly what happened, if anyone really knows? I have heard...A) coming in late, past curfew. B) smoking weed. C) taking pictures at a marijuana dispensary. D) smelling like weed. E) out sightseeing. Some are saying that this is the 2nd / 3rd offense for a couple of players. I don't have time to go to a lot of message boards, twitter, etc. to read things, so if someone could "honestly" tell us what happened, please do.
Game thoughts = Galloway should start, he has been playing inspired ball since coming back. Yes, he has his faults, but the kid plays hard and keeps developing his game (less threes and more drives / floaters) and he is playing for the name on the front of the jersey. TJD is good but inconsistent lately and is not a leader (vocal). He does have some nice post moves & dunks at times, but other times he hurries his shot. Race = Another guy who plays hard and wants to win. Glad he quit shooting the 3-ball and decided to get back inside. Kopp & Leal??? Kopp needs to come off the bench, maybe he is thinking too much and needs to watch the game from the bench, no confidence in his shot. Leal can shoot but is scary handling the ball on offense, making some bad passes. When is Rob coming back? Geronimo gives energy and athleticism but is out of control at times and gets lost on defense. Play him in short spurts. How about a zone when you have 6 players? Mix up your defenses...2-3, 1-3-1, man, etc. If nothing else it gives Northwestern more to think about and plan for during time-outs. If the zone doesn't work you can always get out of it. Who are the vocal leaders of this team, are there any? I am talking about guys who are the voice in the locker room, weight room. Will any other players rip into the 5 who were suspended? Is there a divide in the locker room? What is going to happen going forward? Lots of tough games coming up.
Thoughts

Like Woody said in the post game, he’s there to build a culture. It’s not hard to do the right things on and off the court. The NCAA tournament will come soon enough. Glad he gets it

The IU culture is piss poor. And this new “late night sneak out weed escapade” the night before a road game encapsulates everything that’s wrong with IU basketball. Soft players. None of them give a shit. Pretty funny to watch this season go up in “flames”, ha, get it? You reap what you sow.

Maybe time kick them off. Let Leal play.

Miller Kopp has started every Big Ten game but hasn't made 3 baskets since the Wisconsin game on December 12th.

Missing five players. Must've been something bad for CMW to throw this game away.

Usual second half swoon. Only 15 second half points. Can't hit the threes.

Galloway....gave them 4 easy points, plus the ball. Nice play offset by bonehead play.

Miller Kopp....1/7 from the floor in his return to Evanston. WTH.

Duncomb???

What a roller coaster of a year. With the season pretty much over, I hope Woodson throws the 5 clowns off the team. Get rid of this dead beat mentality that Miller brought in.

How bad is he? Good grief.

Look guys, yes we lost tonight. Yes, we only scored 51 points and yes, we lost to a team with only 11 wins. BUT look on the bright side. I’m still cool, sexy, and handsome.

Anyone remember when a P5 program had a mid-season, tourney bid on the line 5 player suspension?
Im drawing a blank prolly cause im too angry to think.

Anyone hear rumors circulating about player suspensions?